So many evil men...can't stand it

[SplitHeadGirl]

First of all, I know fully well that men will get upset at what I think and am about to say, so I would like to clarify that I am talking about EVIL men, not the good, wonderful dads and granddads and husbands and nice single blokes out there....the ones who I KNOW (my brain, not my gut, tells me so) are in a majority, but who seem to be few (is it their deafening silence?)

But any fool can see that the sheer amount of men, who are prepared to do unspeakable things to women and girls (and boys as well as other men, not to mention the vulnerable and the elderly...wow, the list goes on) is just overwhelming. I read today about Anene Booysen, and I was absolutely heartbroken, but yet not shocked. For men to be so diabolical to women is not shocking anymore, and that is men's greatest tragedy.

I have two little daughters, and a little son, and I fear for them at the hands of men. Not women...just men.

I feel like I am thinking out loud with this post, so no worries if no one feels they can respond. I just wish I didn't feel so helpless at the tsunami of male violence.

No need to apologise for THAT pan. Scallops, penguins,... easy mistake.

Was it also reasonable when she stated that no man had ever done anything good ever. Or called a woman who disagreed with her a hand maiden. None of the feminists on this thread told her she was wrong.

Disingenuous I said you were and that because of how you described feminist ascribing male privilege to whatever it suits them.

I also wish I could type! Hope that made sense.

How would we do that? So, you've not witnessed a man doing something good? I disagree! ?

ah your lack of grace appears thenscallops, with a nice bit of Yoda-speak, like it!

Well on the privilege bit yes, posters on this thread have given that concept a twist to suit a purpose.

But it's late and other stuff to do.

Most women who are 'handmaidens' (I dislike the term) are not deliberately maintaining male supremacy. They simply think it's safer not to rock the boat too much.

Lots of women fear male violence, and fear that violence will be exacerbated by feminists. Understandable. Men also fear violence from men. All of this is in this very thread.

Because the majority of sexual abuse is carried out by men.

Oh, lets continue treating the vast majority of men as paedophiles then, that's fine. We have virtually no male primary school teachers, but that's ok, because a small minority of men are paedophiles.

Not true: the primary carer will likely be the resident parent in the best interests of the child. That is often the woman as the woman is expected to do it.

If a woman wishes to be the primary carer, whether or not it's in the interests of the child, she is most likely to get it.

Because women are considered weaker than men.

Err...because most of them are. Do I actually have to point this out?

Because women are considered to be responsible for domestic roles

If they're SAHM they SHOULD be responsible for the majority of the domestic roles. If not, then they should exercise agency and be clear on what they will or won't do. Women might be considered to be responsible, but they have the choice as to whether this will be the case.

Men are told that they shouldn't be 'wimps'.

How about women shouldn't hit them? I'm not about to take responsibility for another woman's actions though. The media constantly shows men being hit 'as a joke/as a right of women'. Men don't report because they fear they won't be believed. Not surprising given that they're told that they're all evil.

Men are told they are obsessed with sex.

Women have decided that men are obsessed with sex. And are often shocked when their men aren't 24 hour fuck machines, if problem pages and forums are anything to go by.

You don't have a penis.

You can't cling to this for too much longer, the UK will catch up with other western countries soon enough.

Well, I'd disagree with that.

Naturally.

Men are not attacked for simply being male. Women and girls and baby girls are killed for being female.

That is a fact. What can we do about it?

Sigmund, you're living in an alternate universe.

Armyofpenguins PLEASE refer to the figures i've posted twice, seemingly everything but the facts gets discussed in this thread. Violent crime is exceedingly unlikely to occur in this country, 4% of people experience it over a lifetime. If apparently the whole population fears this violence they need to stop reading the daily mail.

Actually maybe if we did have such daily mail hysteria making out there's violence on every corner the people who supposedly fear it wouldn't do, because they'd look at the actual facts. It all ties in hand in hand with the concept of violent crime is down with time but perception is its up, this thread is a great example of how such attitudes occur.

SideshoBob:

1 in 4 women experience violence from men.

Well, it's a male problem. I'll shamelessly repost the TED Talk item from earlier . The more powerful message will come from other men, not women, usually. It's also over in Dadsnet but that is what it is..

Male violence is a massive problem.

It needs to be addressed.

Where did you get that figure of 4% again SideshoBob? Because if 1 in 4 women suffer sexual assaults in their lifetime and women make up half the population that is an eighth of the population which is 12.5%. And that's not including violence men suffer.

'Sigmund, you're living in an alternate universe.'

The real one. Indoctrination free. The world appears to me in all it's twisted imperfect glory. There is so much shit in this world, men aren't responsible for all of it. There is so much good too, but you refuse to see it. The scales fell from my eyes 3 years ago and I'm free to take responsibility for myself.

You can't say the same.

Yes Pan, unfortunately men are more likely to only listen to other men.

Jackson Katz is doing a good job. May others follow.

And not including any other violence women may suffer.

Also, if posters think it worthwhile, it could be spread on facebook or twitter modes. I am a knuckle-dragger in that regard. Can do better.

Unless of course sexual assaults aren't included in those figures of yours as they often aren't in violence stats.

'Indoctrination free'?

Sigmund, you are comedy gold, really you are.

Do you have similar views about white privilege as male privilege, ie, that it's not really a thing?

'But sigmunde Do you think that feminism seeks to address the issues you raised?'

No kim, no I don't. It's intentions are good, but until women are encouraged to take responsibility for themselves, and not blame every issue they ever have on 'Patriarchy', nothing will ever change. Since when has constantly haranguing and blaming someone ever worked. That is all feminism is, 'My life is shit, it's your fault, deal with it for me'. No, that's not the answer at all. Addressing poverty and shit parenting is the answer, but how you'd go about that, I don't know.

Sigmund: So you don't believe that women have been oppressed in society?