Isn't the name of Mumsnet itself sexist?

[MissPeach]

The Mumsnet slogan is 'By parents for parents', suggesting that it is of course, for mothers and fathers. Yet the name Mumsnet would suggest otherwise. It suggests that the forum is only for women, which in turn conveys the idea that women do more parenting than men.

To be honest, it doesn't irk me that much, but it was just a thought I randomly had, and was wondering other opinions on it.

[VulvaPerson]

@Pappleapple

Toxic. Can anyone on here communicate without anger and passive aggressiveness. Maybe a “parents net” is the way forward and this toxic pool of angry and seemingly ignorant people can just stay here. I can’t imagine the negative influence some people on here have on children. Keep your toxic “mumsnet” ill stay with my friends who know what inclusivity and teamwork are.

Great idea. I am sure you are in the middle of setting up this other site right now. Get those who are rational and not toxic away from us nasty women who care about womens rights. How very dare we?! Not only women are discriminated against, and of course women should solve the problems of all other groups before even considering caring about female people. Same old.

I often wonder if such posters ever go on forums centred on, say BLM, and whinge that they do not focus on white people who are killed. Its just such nonsense. Constantly.

[VulvaPerson]

NOT ALL MEN. We do not respond like this to all men, to say we do would be very wrong. Its a very specific type of man, who tends to get the pisstakey passive aggressive treatment. And though you will disbelieve no doubt, a woman posting the same 'feminism has gone too far', 'women should solve other problems first' type stuff, would get the same treatment. We are equal opportunity pisstakers. Which should really, please those who say its sexist to reply to antifeminist shite with..not very kind replies.

[DrDavidBanner]

I'm getting quite concerned actually UP he keeps repeating the same words but not responding to other posts. I think he may be malfunctioning. 😱

[BernardBlackMissesLangCleg]

Bye.

Again.



truly this chappie is the gift that keeps on giving

I often wonder if such posters ever go on forums centred on, say BLM

they do get that 'all live matter' nonsense. any oppressed group does get a response of that nature from the more unimaginative members of the oppressor group when they advocate for themselves. 'you are doing something that does not explicitly include me? unacceptable!'

[VulvaPerson]

they do get that 'all live matter' nonsense. any oppressed group does get a response of that nature from the more unimaginative members of the oppressor group when they advocate for themselves. 'you are doing something that does not explicitly include me? unacceptable!'

Ugh, I for some reason assumed that this was specific to feminists. Maybe I do have a degree of bias. Not a positive thing, to find out that it happens to other groups also :(

[VulvaPerson]

I obviously knew about 'all lives matter' as have seen that shit from all over. I did mean, people specifically seeking out places where they might gather to talk or whatever, to lecture them on why its wrong for them to focus on the group they focus on.

Just incase, as saying I have not seen 'but surely all lives matter!' would be very false.

[DrDavidBanner]

Oh yeah there's a beauty of a thread on Black Mumsnetters at the moment. Dozens of women saying "This happened to me" and a few idiots wading in to tell them they're being oversensitive or that they are the problem or that lovely gem "I don't even know what I'm allowed to say anymore".

I think it comes from the same place. Its like pay attention to me, talk about me, no not like that like this. Bloody annoying

[MedusasBadHairDay]

@Pappleapple

Look at how most of you respond. A man has an opinion and you meet that with criticism, patronising and toxic behaviour. It’s really saddened to witness. Which, evidences my point about what happens when you have single gender groups within a society that needs to work together.

"A man has an opinion" - are you for real?! Sorry, hold on, let me fix that for you..


A MAN HAS ARRIVED!

ALL HAIL THE MAN!

SILENCE FOR HE IS ABOUT TO spout gibberish SPEAK


.. now do go on, we're all desperate to receive your wisdom

[VulvaPerson]

I have never been on the black mumsnetters section tbh. I cannot really understand why people would go there, if they are not a member of the group its clearly meant for tbh. Maybe to read and learn, but definitely not to insert yourself in the middle of things and demand attention.

I guess, I read lipstickalley a fair bit, to see the perspective of a different group. But I would never dream of actually posting there. And certainly not to say 'look at me look at me, I have problems and things I think you should talk about instead, centre me!'

[InterfectoremVulpes]

Back again?

[VulvaPerson]

I tend to liken it to going on the doghouse, informing them all I dislike dogs and prefer lizards, telling them all they should talk about lizards, making threads asking which lizard they prefer, and then calling them nasty for telling me to fuck off, and declaring they are actually clearly lizard-phobic.

[DrDavidBanner]

Its mad isn't it DH is a football fan and goes on his team's forum. They talk about all sorts of stuff not just football. He doesn't go ont his rival team's fan forum to complain they don't pay the right attention to his team.

[BernardBlackMissesLangCleg]

"I don't even know what I'm allowed to say anymore"

oy. Impressive lack of self awareness

you're still (mostly) allowed to say what you like. Just be prepared to be pulled up on it and don't expect a free pass. try not to get the hump if other people make it clear they think you're making a tit of yourself (looking at you Pappleapple )

[Dervel]

I’ve posted here for many years as a bloke, with I hope causing minimal frustration. Most people here will give you a fair shake if you are respectful, listen and read the room a little bit first. It really isn’t beyond the gift of most men to behave that way.

These are complex topics especially if you don’t have the experiences a lot of women have, I’d recommend talking less and listening more.

[Pappleapple]

Brilliant. Again, it just shows what mumsnet has become. Someone mentioned I was a man in a very inappropriate manner. I’m actually female. I just don’t agree with divisional groups per gender. We will Never work together with groups like this. “Dadsnet “ or “mumsnet”. It should be “parentsnet” to ensure we can all collaborate and work together. Bye

[BettyDuKeiraBellisMyShero]

Bye!

[MedusasBadHairDay]

We're going to have to fit a revolving door on here at this rate

[CatsCantCatchCriminals2]

Does anyone else think this is Ricky Gervaise 'avin a larf?

[VulvaPerson]

Someone mentioned I was a man in a very inappropriate manner. I’m actually female

Great. Well theres more proof, that its not 'men' who get this treatment,. but people who come onto the feminist board and say antifeminist things!

[VulvaPerson]

Also I am sure, that renaming the site parentsnet would instantly solve all the problems. Just..more nonsense.

[HecatesCatsInXmasHats]

@Pappleapple

Look at how most of you respond. A man has an opinion and you meet that with criticism, patronising and toxic behaviour. It’s really saddened to witness. Which, evidences my point about what happens when you have single gender groups within a society that needs to work together.

I thought you were a man? As evidenced by your own post.

[InterfectoremVulpes]

See you in an hour or so papple 👋

[ErrolTheDragon]

@CatsCantCatchCriminals2

Does anyone else think this is Ricky Gervaise 'avin a larf?

No, he's generally quite funny and often original.

[InterfectoremVulpes]

I thought you were a man? As evidenced by your own post.

Datchoo Pips? 😲

[ErrolTheDragon]

@Dervel

I’ve posted here for many years as a bloke, with I hope causing minimal frustration. Most people here will give you a fair shake if you are respectful, listen and read the room a little bit first. It really isn’t beyond the gift of most men to behave that way.

These are complex topics especially if you don’t have the experiences a lot of women have, I’d recommend talking less and listening more.

Yup, you and quite a few others. Lots more on other boards too. But you don't fit the UP's narrative that women and men can't coexist peacefully and productively on MN.