Isn't the name of Mumsnet itself sexist?

[MissPeach]

The Mumsnet slogan is 'By parents for parents', suggesting that it is of course, for mothers and fathers. Yet the name Mumsnet would suggest otherwise. It suggests that the forum is only for women, which in turn conveys the idea that women do more parenting than men.

To be honest, it doesn't irk me that much, but it was just a thought I randomly had, and was wondering other opinions on it.

There is a Dadsnet Pappleapple, doesn't get much activity but you might be able to have sme interesting conversations on there. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/dadsnet and there I am doing the work for you.

Of course you don't have to be a mum to post on Mumsnet, you don't even need to be a parent!

@Pappleapple

I don’t need to respond to this. There is no need for gender only groups in anything. End of conversation. All of what you think you know has been tilde to you by the media. I’m basing my responses on actual facts.

No you don't need to respond, the real reason though is that your argument is so weak - the accusation we only think this way is because we've been told so by the media is particularly pathetic. If you had actual facts you'd provide them.

There is a need for groups based only on sex, gender is a load of nonsense, there is also a need for specific groups for specific demographics which exclude all those outside that demographic on the basis of relevance if nothing else. If your level of intelligence is so challenged as to not understand the reason why that is then there really is no hope for you.

I hope he comes back with a link for the new ParentsNet site he sets up.

Have you taken this up with Netmums as well?

Maybe get a survey going?

@Pappleapple

I don’t need to respond to this. There is no need for gender only groups in anything. End of conversation. All of what you think you know has been tilde to you by the media. I’m basing my responses on actual facts.

Dearie me, whatever next. You'll be saying men are being encouraged to breastfeed in a minute.

The name mum's net implies that us females should be locked away in the role of parenting, it's really just a ploy by those in power to oppress women so they have less opposition to how they exploit the working class.

@MarxistMum1984

The name mum's net implies that us females should be locked away in the role of parenting, it's really just a ploy by those in power to oppress women so they have less opposition to how they exploit the working class.

That's probably why this site has a feminism board.

@Ilovemyself

The reason I feel uneasy is because I hate getting flamed by feminists who hate men because they are men.

As I said, I have no problem with equality. My wife and I share the parenting. I have worked for male and female bosses. But if Feminist agenda makes a site uneasy for men then surely it is a step too far. This is, after all, a parenting website

Just wanted to say that I am really, really enjoying this Zombie thread. It's giving me such a laugh.

It's nice to get a view from 7 years ago, when things on FWR were so different (not All About Trans), and yet, exactly the same (fragile men whinging "I feel excluded!").

Plus ça change.

Honestly, mate, if you’re going to resurrect a seven year old thread, at least try to demonstrate the ability to have a coherent thought, rather than subjecting us to a series of brain farts.

A lot of people are discriminated against. Not just women. Women seem to make out they are the only ones that get assaulted, abused and that they are other things that discriminate against them. I’ve never known such a toxic

Aw, and there I was thinking you were concerned about the sexist assumption that parenting is a woman's responsibility.

When actually you just came along to give the feminists a bit of a telling off.

More unsubstantiated whinging. Yes, of course there are many reasons for discrimination, and if you'd actually read much on MN you'd know they get discussed here - including on this board even though its specific purpose feminism & women's rights. Disabilities, sexuality, ageism, religion (or lack thereof). Some aspects of sexism impinge on men - eg the flip side of women being seen as the default carer is men who need or want to fulfil those roles having a hard time.
We know all that (and more - those were examples, not an exhaustive list before you nit-pick).

A lot of people are discriminated against. Not just women.

That is very true, Papple. This particular board happens to be about women and the specific issues that women face. There are different boards which deal with issues that other groups of people face.

Do feel free to create your own space with a different focus if you feel that there's nothing currently suitable available. Come back to let us know about it! A lot of people here are members of different online forums (fora?) so it's always good to have options.

Of course, men can have discussions on here too. I'm not even a mum and I am not barred from Mumsnet. It's very inclusive.

Jeez, I'm on here and I haven't even got children, the gall of it 😂 get a life OP, mums post, dads post, childless and singles too - I've never felt excluded just cos I'm not a mum!

It's perfectly possible that OP has passed on.

Maybe there should be a new acronym for people who dig up zombie threads? Rather than 'Original Poster' they're an 'Unoriginal Poster' - UP. Though that could apply to quite a lot of people who start yet another thread on a well-worn theme.

Toxic. Can anyone on here communicate without anger and passive aggressiveness. Maybe a “parents net” is the way forward and this toxic pool of angry and seemingly ignorant people can just stay here. I can’t imagine the negative influence some people on here have on children. Keep your toxic “mumsnet” ill stay with my friends who know what inclusivity and teamwork are.

Tatty bye then 👋

See you in another life, brotha..

‘Inclusivity and teamwork’ sounds like a slogan from some kind of insufferable HR training programme.

Perhaps the new site could be called ‘PowerPoint Parenting’?

@Pappleapple

Toxic. Can anyone on here communicate without anger and passive aggressiveness. Maybe a “parents net” is the way forward and this toxic pool of angry and seemingly ignorant people can just stay here. I can’t imagine the negative influence some people on here have on children. Keep your toxic “mumsnet” ill stay with my friends who know what inclusivity and teamwork are.

Great idea. Let's do it. You crack on with ParentsNet and we'll all stay here - everyone's happy.

Meet you here in 7 years sweetie, its a date x

I’m off to tell Pistonheads they’re not welcoming me because I want to talk about knitting, I mean they’re just being exclusive really, aren’t they?

End of conversation

and thus mumsnet disappeared in a puff of smoke

you lot have been playing with your dinner again haven't you?

@EyesOpening

I’m off to tell Pistonheads they’re not welcoming me because I want to talk about knitting, I mean they’re just being exclusive really, aren’t they?

They're certainly discriminating against people with all-electric vehicles.