"When a woman says no she means maybe" Come and support those in chat who aren't happy about this sign in a shop

[MrsMushroom]

here is the thread

A MNr began the thread when she came across This monstrosity

Someone else googled and found it in this shop.

Please can you lot email the shop? I have sent an email explaining why they need to remove it from their stock. Can you lot too?

There's an option to post online reviews.

I think keep it simple.

"It's offensive and promotes mixed messages which could threaten a woman's safety. No means no. Please consider removing this crass item from stock".

I would be horrified if my loved one presented me with that, and as for a wedding gift - it practically says marital rape is permissable!

I didn't want to register...so have emailed...others from the chat thread have too and I think they'll find a lot of emails more in your face than reviews. They have a FB page too and I've suggested that unless they take it off then we hit that tomorrow evening.

What you wrote was similar to that which I wrote...except you did it in less words and were far more articulate!

Crap sign. Where's the email address?

[email protected]

We really need to know who the manufacturer is though.

I shall keep an eye open for it in local shops - it's the sort of thing they love to sell.

I asked them to email me with who manufactures it GallicGirl...I thought they might tell not incase they offend them....but I want to know too.

Offensive crap. Who the hell thinks this is amusing ?

Apparently it would make 'an unusual wedding gift'. No shit.

How about "When a woman says no you would be well advised to assume that she does in fact mean no otherwise you may face criminal liability under s1 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003." ?

Very pithy. I am very tempted to use that exact phrase.

I like that Cardinal! Please say that in the email!

I just looked at their FB and it's very unprofessional. Not much activity...only 88 likes and pics of small local craft fairs they've participated in so my bet is that this is a small, newish business. Loads of women in the pics..browsing their goods for sale...makes me BOIL that they probably get 90% of their business from women and yet ram this shit on their shelves without a thought.

sent.

whoever checks emails in the morning will wonder what the hell has been happening!

Email sent with Cardinals line in it.

One of the many things that pisses me off when people say/imply that no doesn't always mean no re sex is the fact that it is down in black and white, in law, that it in fact does. It isn't up for argument.

This sign manages to be offensive on at least two levels: firstly, the one we've been discussing (implying that women don't mean what they say re consent to sex) and secondly that only 'ladies' (meaning nice girls) pretend not to enjoy sex. Because actually wanting to have sex with your partner is clearly the behaviour of a complete slapper, isn't it? How perfectly charming.

And putting an offensive statement in cutesy 1950s format does not make it 'OK' or 'ironic', whatever they may have intended.

WTF, I can't think where on earth you could display that!

I think I find the 'ladies' don't enjoy sex more insulting than the first bit and the first bit is dangerous trash.

Fucking hell, furious at reading that! Complaints email going off in the morning. GAH.

What a disgustiing sign Agree with Cardinal and Startail. It contains a nasty rape apologist message AND the myth that women shouldnt enjoy or like sex. So two nasty messages there for the price of one.

Did anyone see those nasty Valentine cards that Paperchase did Charming messages like Your Hole is My Goal.
I meant to start a thread on here at the time but got caught up in RL.

www.facebook.com/daisyinteriors

This is their facebook page, I post there.

We were going to give them a chance to respond to the emails before posting on their FB page...just to give us a weapon in case they refused to remove the sign.

I just emailed this:

Are you pro-rape?

No means no.

No does not mean perhaps.

Stop selling rape-enabling tat

Rape apologise and slut shaming in one cutesy item? Yuck.

Yes, the sign appears to be saying if you involved in a sexual situation and you aren't being raped then you must be a slut.

Bet they wouldn't sell lovely nostalgic racism

Arseholes.

Here it is on their FB page www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=338248886222358&set=a.338248789555701.70864.317842458263001&type=3&theater