Woman forces man to have sex with her at knife point, stabs him when he refuses - article does not mentionthe word "rape".

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2194240/Angelina-Jolie-lookalike-stabs-taxi-driver-refusing-sex-her.html

Utterly ridiculous and the police give her an excuse - she was on medication!
I am appalled!

I...I....I...

It's your age Hully. Have you tried a zimmer frame?

Women can't technically rape men. As has been explained on this thread

....and has been pointed out patiently over and over to you and your crowd, that's a definition technicaility - the crime is just as bad.

And IMO throwing the term "Male Rape Apologist" at anyone who disagrees with you is crass.

Whatmeworry Wed 29-Aug-12 10:18:36
And IMO throwing the term "Male Rape Apologist" at anyone who disagrees with you is crass.

in this context I suspect MRA is Men's Right Activists.

Ah, the benefit of the two-tone TLA :o

Since when has MRA meant 'Male Rape Apologist" [out of touch emoticon]

I have never seen MRA used to mean "male rape apologist" - in fact I have never seen that term used in a gendered way at all.

I agree with Morris' post at 7:33, the DM and the OP clearly both have an agenda to push, neither of them being to further the cause of support for male victims of sexual abuse.

It does feel a bit like a what about the menz post.

Still useful if it's broadened understanding of sexual assault.

'It does feel a bit like a what about the menz post.'

Sweet. But stop it, really. You'll be apologizing for being male next. Not good.

With regard to the article

It doesn't mention sexual assault either.

should be doesn't mention the words sexual assault.

"I have never seen MRA used to mean "male rape apologist" - but if the cap fits......

Nah. I'm definitely man, and nothing to apologise for.

I think this was a stirring post; I think it also revealed some shocking ignorance about the way consent works.

It does feel a bit like a what about the menz post."

I agree it is cringe and whenever the that phrase or MRA gets mentioned on these boards I feel like any semblance of debate or discussion is lost as people begin to debate a motivation or agenda, which they have ascribed themselves, rather than the issue. Theogic behind it is also quite hypocritical at times.

*the logic

"The only feminists here being " goaded" are those who struggle* with the idea that sex crimes are sex crimes irrespective of which sex is being the criminal"

Nah, we're not that stupid, sorry.
Anyway, it is goading to come onto a feminist discussion forum, talking about an issue that isn't a feminist issue, that is actually only about proving that men are victims too. Sometimes. In a minority of cases. Very important of course, but not appropriate here.

Well tbf, on another thread (the one involving prison searches) it was asserted that if it involves women it's a feminist issue, end of!
I'm not saying I agree or that this is a feminist issue, but there is at least one feminist argument on these boards that would suggest that as this story and topic involves women, it is a feminist issue.
Once again, not saying I agree, just that perhaps its not quite do clear cut as asserting that it's not the appropriate section for this thread.

'I do think this is a feminist issue because it's about the myth that women are as likely to be violent as men when we know that is statistically not true. The vast majority of male victims of sexualised violence are victimised by other men yet every time this subject comes up the discussion has to revolve around the small minority of women who commit the crime or the even smaller minority of women who fabricate stories of sexualised violence due to sever mental health problems.'

Can we have stats for that? Links? Particularly that last bit, as I'd like to know how you know that 'the minority of women who fabricate stories etc'...do so because of severe mental health problems. That's quite a statement, if I may say so.

"I do think this is a feminist issue because it's about the myth that women are as likely to be violent as men when" Who said that!? Who? Where? Don't argue against a point of view that you've just invented.

Well, on any thread about domestic violence, somebody alwqys says that domestic violence is nearly 50:50. it doesn't seem to be much of a logical leap to think that the purpose of the "women are rapists too" narrative is to come to that point about rape- that men are equally victimised.

If this thread really was about sexual violence perpetrated on men, it would be focussing on the main perpetrators- other men. But lets not kid ourselves that's what it's about.

I very rarely go into the relationship section. I don't think I've posted there for a couple of years.
You accuse me of doing something I've never done. Please link to 'my post' or apologise.

May I ask a question? Is tentative and scared, please be gentle! :)

I thought rape was about consent, not penetration? Isn't that why oral and hand stuff can be classed as a form of rape?

I guess my question is; I know by law he wasn't raped but I thought it was all about consent? So Was he or was he not raped?