Agenda, much?

[Malificence]

I don't usually wander onto the MN facebook page but I was pretty horrified to find what looks very much like an MRA agenda posted on there.
I'm trying very hard to see what relevance the photo used for their site has regarding the voices of unheard children. Looks more like how they would like to see their women to me.

www.facebook.com/#!/mumsnet?sk=wall

Yup! Take a deep breath ladies and read and digest what spydiii has posted.
Calm down have a soak in a nice hot bubbly bath. Have some hot milk. :)

so first there was Fathers For Justice, with the batman costumes, which the founder disbanded after accusations of a plot to kidnap Tony Blair's little boy. Then there was Real Fathers For Justice = and now apparently there's Official Fathers For Justice. Is there a Continuity Fathers for Justice as well? And which one of them is invading MN?

Here's one about homophobia in F4J's ranks:

www.pinknews.co.uk/2008/09/19/fathers-4-justice-target-minister-with-anti-lesbian-banner/

Maybe that will bother Mumsnet more than the misogyny.

Provisional Fathers for Justice. Maybe they make the flour bombs.

Next is the "Honest to god, we are the real, one and only, official Fathers For Justice" I can see it coming a mile off.

MNHQ, could you clarify. Is this the "Feminism and Women's Rights" section? Or "Lets All Attack Feminism and Women's Rights" section? I feel a little confused...

Has MNHQ read Feminism 101? Would you like a link?

Oh remember when they parked themselves on Harriet Harman's roof. Because stalking a woman isn't threatening at all is it?

Here's their press release from anti-misandry (hahahahahaha) .com

November 12th, 2008 at 9:17 am
FATHERS 4 JUSTICE Press Release

Fathers 4 Justice activist Jolly Stanesby was today sentenced for two
months
in jail today for a rooftop protest at the home of Deputy Prime
Minister
Harriett Harman.

Fellow protestor Mark Harris was given a conditional discharge.

Members of the group, which had disbanded in September of this year,
said
they would be staging further protests on the Minister's roof and at
the
Prime Ministers home in Kirkaldy & Cowdenbeath within the week at
protest at
what they described as a 'politically conceived show trial.'

Said Mark Harris from court 'I am shocked that Mr Stanesby has been
imprisoned and know that fellow campaigners will be taking his place
on Miss
Harman's roof within days if not hours. The court has made a serious
error
in committing him to prison and in doing so incited angry dads to take
further direct action.'

'If the government messes with our right to family life, then they
should be
assured that this will also apply to them.'

Said retired F4J Founder Matt O'Connor, 'This was a politically
motivated
prosecution where protestors have been smeared as terrorists. The
fact is
that the Harmans conceived their departure from their property as a
political response to our protest and stage managed a press
conference to
coincide with that departure.'

'That Harriet Harman can't go out for a walk in her constituency
without a
knife proof flack jacket demonstrates that her latent dislike and
prejudice
against fathers has manifested itself into a social evil that affects
everyone.'

'Jolly Stanesby and Mark Harris enjoyed massive public support for
their
protest and performed a serious public duty in raising awareness
about the
consequences of mass fatherlessness and the hypocrisy of Ministers
who have
engaged in a perversion in the course of natural justice to deny a
generation of children the right in law to see their fathers. No doubt
direct action will flow from this decision.'

'The only person who should be in prison today is the Deputy Prime
Minister.'

I found the article from the telegraph. It's called 'Fathers Give Up Campaign', by Sarah Womack and George Jones, 19 Jan 2006

You know the posts where the poster has a bit of an issue with actual women ... that'll be the invady-can't-keep-a-laydee type.

'They haven't gone away, you know'

I bet Gingerbread aren't rolling out the red carpet for the F4J members who are trolling them.

D'you approve of that MNHQ?

You want to line up with people who troll an advice line for desperate mothers, so that those mothers can't be given the advice and support they need?

Oh, wait.

Wow. Am I allowed to say that the quotes from Matt O'Connor about Harriet Harman make him sound deranged?

MNHQ get real.

Are you going to delete this Mumsnet. I think it comes under fair use.

"Fathers 4 Justice, the radical campaign group for men involved in child custody battles, was disbanded last night after allegations that extremist elements were plotting to kidnap Tony Blair's five-year-old son Leo.
Matt O'Connor, the founder, said that after endless feuding in the group and dangerous activities by those on its fringes he had concluded that mothers were simply more mature than fathers.

"There may be a repeat of these sorts of antics and it would do serious damage to the debate and what we have achieved," he said.
"My view is that fathers are not ready for the changes we want to see in this country. They are part of the problem, not the solution, and they are perverting the cause.

"The truth is that our organisation has been run largely by women for two years. A nine-month pregnant woman will turn up and walk for miles at one of our demonstrations while an able- bodied father can't be bothered. We will speak to other groups such as Families Need Fathers and will not leave people in the lurch.
"But this organisation has come to its natural conclusion. I am almost past caring and want a good night's sleep; I have a newborn baby.""

I kind of feel sorry for Rowan now. (genuine not sarky)

"The court has made a serious
error
in committing him to prison and in doing so incited angry dads to take
further direct action.'

'If the government messes with our right to family life, then they
should be
assured that this will also apply to them."

I'm sure there's a name for this, trying to coerce government policy through threat of violence .......

MNHQ - Not impressed at all.

Unless supporting obvious trolling is now considered good form.

MNHQ - I would really like an explination of the deletions on this thread. I can understand the ones that mention 'needle dick', although I don't remember them being aimed at a mumsnetter, just a certain type of man. But some of the other posts that have been deleted confound me completely. I do not understand why at all? They were about an organisation/group of people, and some were just quoting stuff elsewhere?

Are we going to start deleting posts by anyone criticising Health Visitors now?

MNHQ please tell me that you are not homophobic, or allow hate-posts on your site.

Wonder if we can now legitimately say that some members of F4J are violent thugs. There's one threatening violence right there. He's a violent thug. Hardly a personal attack when he said it himself is it?

Indeed Fathers For Justice are homophobic ?KIDS NEED REAL DADS NOT DAWN?S LESBO DADS" is one of the charming slogans their members have draped all over the public realm.

Is homophobia OK, MNHQ?

We have F4J poster Pete Nicholls, on MN's Facebook page, giving MN a metaphorical pat on the back.

Yes. Well done for pandering to the misogynistic, homophobic, racist trolls. Well done. Well done, indeed. And this isn't directed solely to Rowan. It's directed to whoever thought it'd be a good idea to invite F4J to join MN (you have to join to report a post...)

Are you allowing hate-posts against women, MNHQ?

What happened to 'We believe you.'?