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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Facebook supports rape?

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MotherPanda · 04/10/2011 13:53

Have we a thread on this yet?

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/04/facebook-hate-speech-women-rape?newsfeed=true

I am really shocked.

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TheRhubarb · 07/10/2011 13:52

Funny how you can confidently state what the 'truth' is to others but get all hissy when someone states their own interpretation of the 'truth'.

StewieGriffinsMom · 07/10/2011 13:53

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EllaDee · 07/10/2011 13:54

I have never suggested everyone thinks rape is funny. I don't know why you would want to pretend I did.

You are making it very hard for me to post on here. Could you please tone it down a bit? I can only imagine what it's like for people who have actually been raped.

chibi · 07/10/2011 13:54

Domestic abusers tend to have slightly misshapen appendixes.

Hth

LeBOF · 07/10/2011 13:56

Nobody is hounding anybody off anywhere (but you are spending quite rude and hostile if I'm honset, Rhub). I have just reopened the thread and tried to suggest some virtual deep breaths etc and to inject a friendly tone, but I feel you have thrown that back in my face by suggesting something sinister is going on- why? Over some pretend bloody tea? This is silly. I will bow out for now, I think, and next time Hully talks about gentle bloody light of kindness or whatever it is, I'll be muttering darkly about this, for sure.

chibi · 07/10/2011 13:58

Sorry for being facetious

I think i am just cross with myself for failing to spot the characteristics which were definitely there yet imperceptible

SardineQueen · 07/10/2011 14:01

I thought BoF was trying to lighten the mood and responded as such.

Never mind.

Shopping is done anyway. Slot is just fine Grin

SardineQueen · 07/10/2011 14:02

chibi that depends if you were raped generally or datily.

If datily then you don't need to be cross with yourself love.

TheRhubarb · 07/10/2011 14:03

LeBOF unfortunately your lightness is lost admist the patronising tones of chibi et al.

I can only refer you to the Met Police link which I cannot be bothered posting again but which referred to the characteristics and profiling of domestic abusers, including those guilty of sexual assault. My opinion may count for nothing as far as you are concerned and it is patronising I think to say that this would upset rape victims. The Met Police use their profiling to send out to social services and so on.

Would anyone care to tell them that not only are they in danger of upsetting people but that they are completely wrong?

TheRhubarb · 07/10/2011 14:05

Yup SQ comes across as one upset poster who is beside herself alright. I am so relieved she took my apology in the spirit it was meant - I shall remember this next time someone rages at me to apologise. There really is no point.

"raped generally or datily" what a nice thing to say Hmm

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 07/10/2011 14:05

Wait, what?

Hang on, I was raped both "generally" Hmm and "datily" Hmm

Who should I be cross with?

SardineQueen · 07/10/2011 14:20

You were the one who differentiated between "general" rape and "date" rape rhubarb.

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LeninGrad · 07/10/2011 14:22

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TheRhubarb · 07/10/2011 14:28

Sorry, who just said "chibi that depends if you were raped generally or datily."?

I don't think I was ever that dismissive SQ so don't try to worm your way out of that one by saying it's all my fault and I made you say it. I didn't.

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SardineQueen · 07/10/2011 14:31

Rhubarb have you actually read that met police link? It has little to do with this conversation. It stems from a study about domestic murder cases, and involves cases that have come to the attention of the police.

In the opening it says this: "This analysis is based on incidents reported to the Metropolitan Police Service. However, the lessons learnt are relevant to all those working within the field domestic violence and to the criminal justice system as a whole."

We have established that most rapes are not reported to the police. Further, not all rapes are committed by partners and not all rapes have attendant violence (aside from the act of rape obviously).

The report is looking at a subsection of very violent domestic abusers who have rape as an an abuse in their repertoire. Again, many many women experience rapes outside these circumstances. The study is interesting in as far as it goes... but that's it.

Also, why are you asking everyone to read stuff. But when information is posted about things that does not fit with your way of thinking, you dismiss it.

SardineQueen · 07/10/2011 14:32

met link lenin

StewieGriffinsMom · 07/10/2011 14:33

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SardineQueen · 07/10/2011 14:33

I was taking the piss out of you rhubarb, as was chibi. Because you said something so bloody stupid that taking the piss was the only obvious reaction.

SardineQueen · 07/10/2011 14:35

The purpose of it is trying to work out which domestic abusers will go on to murder, from what I can see SGM.

SardineQueen · 07/10/2011 14:36

In fact it was frothy taking the piss. As well as me. And chibi.

TheRhubarb · 07/10/2011 14:39

They do touch on profiling and I did pick out some quotes. It's a large document but read further down and they do profile the criminals. It talks of sexual abuse within the home and domestic violence.

Course you were SQ, in a very offensive way. Glad to hear you admit that you were taking the piss though. Pity you chose to do so in a way that trivialised rape to the categories of "generally or datily"

TheRhubarb · 07/10/2011 14:40

SQ, what is this, back to school hour? "Well it was her who did it as well!"

I'm not interested. Give it a rest.

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