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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Facebook supports rape?

908 replies

MotherPanda · 04/10/2011 13:53

Have we a thread on this yet?

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/04/facebook-hate-speech-women-rape?newsfeed=true

I am really shocked.

OP posts:
EllaDee · 07/10/2011 13:31

rhubarb - the posts where I said 'sorry'. Funnily enough.

KRITIQ · 07/10/2011 13:32

Dears? Love? What's that all about? Do you hear anyone else using patronising terms about other posters here.

(FFS - step away from the mouse, this is getting silly.)

SardineQueen · 07/10/2011 13:34

ella I haven't given any information on this thread about my personal life as far as I can remember.

Rhubarb has hazarded a guess that I have been raped, and then further postulated that it was a partner wot dunnit.

So she might not only be mis-charaterising my "rape" - it might be a rape that hasn't even happened.

Maybe I am upset because a family member was attacked, or a friend.

Or are some people on this thread Psychic?

TheRhubarb · 07/10/2011 13:37

Go on SQ, don't tell them that I apologised - twice.
It was a stupid error on my part that I will now be slated for again and again and again.

Ella, I haven't seen those. If you apologised for anything then please take it that your apologies are accepted wholeheartedly and with thanks.

EllaDee · 07/10/2011 13:37

Yes, sorry, I see that now SQ.

I should have said, I feel that this thread is not the place for people to shout at others about what rapists are like. No matter who's doing the shouting or being shouted at. Some people have shared very personal feelings and experiences and I think it is not the right place to get shouty.

TheRhubarb · 07/10/2011 13:38

No KRIT, course you don't patronise. Just me being paranoid, silly me!

EllaDee · 07/10/2011 13:38

Hmm, well, you managed to respond to those posts absolutely fine while ignoring the apology, but I suppose it's better late than never.

Thank you.

LeBOF · 07/10/2011 13:40

Shall we all stop for some gin?

SardineQueen · 07/10/2011 13:40

Absolutely right ella.

Rhubard you have apologised for upsetting me but not acknowledged that there was anything in your post likely to cause upset to victims of rapists who did not fit your lists. So it's not much of an apology really.

SardineQueen · 07/10/2011 13:41

I need something harder BoF.

EllaDee · 07/10/2011 13:41

Gin!

I don't drink, but I offer Wine Wine.

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 07/10/2011 13:41
DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 07/10/2011 13:42

I'll have a cup of tea, instead, ta. Brew

TheRhubarb · 07/10/2011 13:43

Can I point out Ella that I think it was you, yes? Who said that experiences should not be used on debates or something to that effect? Could we not also say that if you feel emotional about rape then you are more likely to take something as a personal attack or at least personally, when it was unintended to be so?

I may be clumsy in my interpretation and explanations, but I have never intended to hurt or upset as I have said time and time and time again over and over on this thread. We all have opinions and those opinions will not be the same. I have also been hurt and upset by things that have been said on this thread and I didn't get an apology for those things so I had to let them go in the end.
If you want to keep re-hashing extracts of what I said in order to justify attacks on my character, if you want to tell people of how nasty I was and not tell them about the apologies or that I was certainly not intending to cause harm or upset (but instead imply that this is exactly what I was doing) then I cannot stop you, freedom of speech and all that you see.

But you are wrong in what you think of me. That is all.

SardineQueen · 07/10/2011 13:43

Oh shit I need to do the online shopping before my slot expires.

SardineQueen · 07/10/2011 13:44

Does that last post of mine need another fnah?

TheRhubarb · 07/10/2011 13:44

And now you are all sat around having tea and enjoying the spectacle. Nice Hmm

LeBOF · 07/10/2011 13:45

SQ Grin

TheRhubarb · 07/10/2011 13:45

Oh I sense something going on here.
I hope I am wrong.

TheRhubarb · 07/10/2011 13:46

No, I'm not wrong.

Wow.

StewieGriffinsMom · 07/10/2011 13:46

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

LeBOF · 07/10/2011 13:47

Rhubarb, I am trying to lighten the time and suggest some virtual deep breaths or whatever, as this is all getting very unpleasant and shouty. Do feel free to have some tea as well.

EllaDee · 07/10/2011 13:47

No, rhubard, I said anecdotes are not data. I reject the rest of what you say, mainly because it sounds like more victim blaming.

Look, I do get that this is not nice for you. I get that you feel horrible because you don't want to think that our culture might be normalizing rape, and you don't like us saying your posts are contributing to that. It is not a good realization to come to. But I honestly think it's the truth, and that's why I'm saying it.

LeBOF · 07/10/2011 13:48

What am I missing?

TheRhubarb · 07/10/2011 13:51

How can it be victim blaming if I say that someone who is emotional about rape might take a post as a personal attack when it is not?
Oh of course, because I am saying they are stupid. So I am not only blaming them for their own rape but for getting upset at other posts too! Oh very well done.

Well if I put the truth as bluntly as that Ella I would be hounded off the board just as I am now funnily enough. You might not like it but even domestic abusers have common characteristics and you might want to think that everyone thinks rape is funny because that justifies your rage. But that is also untrue.

My opinion, just as yours is.

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