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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why sexual abuse should be taken seriously...

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tabouleh · 03/11/2010 16:50

There is a thread at the moment where a MNer has discovered that her DS is abusing her DDs.

Very very sad.

What is fucking shocking is posters trying to trivialise this abuse as "doctors and nurses" and suggesting that the behaviour is more innocent that it seems.

I don't want that support thread de-railed.

So I have linked to here.

So yep I have form for thread about threads lets debate it here.

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LeninGrad · 09/11/2010 14:11

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pickledsiblings · 09/11/2010 14:22

On your point about women not being human chibli Grin, we are the weaker sex, right. Is it not possible that these men, the ones with the urges, do it because they can get away with it. And that just as many women if they thought they could get away with it would do it?

I am afraid that the other thread is fostering a kind of male-loathing mindset IYKWIM.

pickledsiblings · 09/11/2010 14:24

Yeah but Lenin, do you tell your DC that they may have such urges?

LeninGrad · 09/11/2010 14:24

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chibi · 09/11/2010 14:28

so the only reason i don't bash my 18 month old in the face when he is being annoying is because i think i won't get away with it

really

bit nihilstic don't you think

pickledsiblings · 09/11/2010 14:31

These things can eat away at you and so much sadness at the hands of men on one thread is bound to have consequences. It seeps into your psyche.

I am all for women telling their stories but I don't like the picture that is being painted on that thread. I feel that in the end it will do no one any good. Maybe it's just me .

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pickledsiblings · 09/11/2010 14:32

chibi - you have the urge to bash your 18 month old in the face?

chibi · 09/11/2010 14:33

so shut up and serve dinner already

your stories of rape, assault and degredation are making men look bad

now slap on a smile and forget about it

or something

gee whiz it's lucky women aren't human

and that you can do whateeeever you like with them

chibi · 09/11/2010 14:37

re bashing it is where your logic leads, have an urge, follow it through just so long as you can get away with it

i operate under a different system

i reckon my 18 month old is human, and real, and can be hurt, so whatever stupid momentary urge i feel i need to consider his realness, his humanity first

it takes precedence over any urge i might feel

clearly others feel differently

and still others are ready to turn themselves inside out to justify it

pickledsiblings · 09/11/2010 14:40

Women, as a supposedly civilised society we have a long way to go.

Know that you are not alone.

Know that you do not have to put up with this.

Raise your sons to be more civilised.

LeninGrad · 09/11/2010 14:42

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chibi · 09/11/2010 14:43

but they have urges!

and women let them get away with it!

or something!

i despair, i really do

pickledsiblings · 09/11/2010 14:43

chibi we are programmed to be more selfless than men. Lucky us.

chibi · 09/11/2010 14:44

programmed?

i know that this world doesn't think i am human

but this is the first that i have heard that i am a machine

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 09/11/2010 14:47

"I am all for women telling their stories but I don't like the picture that is being painted on that thread."

What do you mean by this?

Is there a way women can tell stories about this particular experience without painting a similar picture?

pickledsiblings · 09/11/2010 14:50

I don't think 'men stop sexually assaulting' is going to cover it somehow.

Obese people, stop overeating.

People in debt stop spending money that you don't have.

LeninGrad · 09/11/2010 14:53

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AnyFucker · 09/11/2010 14:56

pickled, I would advise you not to post on that other thread, you will get slaughtered and deservedly so

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 09/11/2010 14:58

What on earth are you worried is going to come of it? Seriously?

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DooinMeCleanin · 09/11/2010 15:02

Why are we painting a picture on that other thread? We are painting nothing. We are simply telling each other of our experiences in a honest, no holds barred way.

Is that what is making you uncomfortable? Had it not occured to you that us girly folk might not like the cat calling and groping and class it is as assault? After all it's just a bit of fun, no? Those men don't mean anything by it.

Silly us for making such a fuss about it Hmm