Rape within marriage

[tabouleh]

Yes unashamedly a thread about a thread.

It is like entering the bloody twilight zone over there.

Jeez there are MNers basically caring more about OP's husbands right to sex rather than believing OP and helping her.

Totally understand if this gets deleted for being a thread about a thread - but if it gets more of the feminist viewpoints onto that thread then great.

Portofino, love, were you that someone who was forced to perform obscene acts at knifepoint or do you know someone who was?

Is that an explanation for your posting style here this evening?

As I said it's not a competition. A lot of bad things happen in this world. We don't need to judge and rank which bad thing is worse than another bad thing.

This thread is about correctly naming rape within marriage and giving support to Anchor and anyone else who asks for our support.

You are sexist.

You are saying that some women (the brutalised victims some men like to feel sorry for, and get all protective of, and say how the men who hurt them are "monsters") are proper rape victims

and that some women (the ones who are raped by men they know and love and have a sexual relationship with) are not proper rape victims, that their story is suspect, that there is "more to it", that really what happened is understandable

That is a classic sexist myth - one that allows misogynistic men to claim that rapists are evil monsters that are outcasts from society, and that normal men don't commit rape.

So if a woman claims to have been raped by a decent man, she is de facto a liar.

You are sexist. And you are horrible.

Gigantaur, I wouldn't bother reading thread if I were you x

Please guys, don't let the thread degenerate into a slanging match :(

She felt his penis INSIDE HER. Do you honestly not get it, or do you think it only counts if he ejaculates? Or if she's held at knifepoint.

I pity you, Portofino, I really do.

'she felt his penis and got up' it didn't bump into her leg, it was inside her after she said no!

Portofino I appreciate your point of view about grey areas, but I don't think it's appropriate to be posting such extreme POVs on a thread about someone who is upset, in fact it's bloody insensitive. Have this discussion NOT about someone specific but about hypothetical situations, if you must, and in a less argumentative way. Pur-lease.

I can assure you I don't want to be a victim Portofino. I've been raped though. Have you?

If woman say's no it means no end of!

MN is going mad, there are some real trolls on here at the moment.

Dolly - can you explain how your husband fucking you when you've told him you're not interested 'is in the context of a loving relationship based on mutual respect.'

Where's the mutual respect in that?

Ive said it before portofino, your either a victim yourself or your being nasty. And fwiw , if your having sex with your husband when you dont want to, you ARE oppressed , maybe your angry with Anchor because shes rightly said no, and you dont.

Do you not understand how insulting it is to say that what happened to Anchor is the SAME as what happened to others? And the trauma they suffered? Really?

And I am the deluded one?

oh dear god i just saw your last post portofino.

so i wanted to be a victim?
you are absolutly right of course. i was rolling around in ecstacy at the thought that i would be drugged at night and then awake to find my partner had raped me both vaginally and analy.
i loved that fact that after a few months he couldn't be bothered spiking my drinks and would just beat me up and then force himself on me.

it was oh so much more pleasurable when he would get angry whilst my then toddler autistic son was in teh room so that he too could witness his father raping me. or on a very good day he could watch him simply forcing implents inside me.

it was just fabulous. but i am obviously a failed feminist as i didn't call the police or have him charged so that more people could know about it and treat me like the oh so suffering victim.

you are a disgusting piece of work you relly are.

I cannot think of a way to express how utterly scumn like i find your opinions on this matter

jjones - sadly if you look at the posting histories of these posters you willl see that they are established posters - they have not signed up to just "troll this thread"

Nobody said that, Portofino. Especially not the OP.

Rape is rape, her husband raped her.

What he did is not THE SAME as being held at knifepoint, or any other rape scenario, but it is still rape.

I see from your profile that you have a daughter. Would you say the same things to her, if she came to you in Anchor's situation?

As I said before, I would consider such an act disrespectful, the first time.

What a nasty shit attitude. Its probably best Portofino if you run along and be used as a fuck toy for your husbands pleasure , instead of bullying people who choose not to be treated that way.

Gigantaur, do you see similarities in your situation and the OP's?

FFS dolly what the fuck do you think you are doing trying to engage Gigantaur like this.

Gigantaur - please don't feel you need to stay, I fear it will be too upsetting.

dolly "do you see similarities" - THEY WERE BOTH RAPED - how much more of a fucking similarity do you need.