Has anyone lost weight without the jabs ?

[thethreegreens]

Nowadays I see so many posts about weightloss and then about the weight loss jabs and pills, has anyone lost weight without using the medication ? I’m really big for what I was before and uncomfortable but feel like I’ll just fail also taking the jabs medication is not an option for me

I did it a couple of years ago and saved money from my birthday to do it. It cost £250 back then.
I pay £10 a month now to scan foods/drink to see whether they score well for me and log my meals. The score is based on my body’s ability to process fat and sugar/carbs.
I’ve learnt a lot - I always thought plain boiled rice and jacket potatoes were good for me, but they are not as they are simple carbs and spike my blood sugar response so I make simple swaps which are better for my body. I wore a CGM for a fortnight and watched my blood sugar spiking and dropping when I ate these foods. I used to get hangry and crave sugar, or get dizzy. I don’t now as my body is much more stabilised.
The advice from ZOE is based on Science and things are updated as data becomes available and my data is also used to help advance the app and advice too. They also look into how menopause affects weight and health.

Good grief, @SilenceInside has given you a very polite and accurate answer so I shall just point out your post is full of erroneous assumptions and inaccuracies.

mosf people who are obese and lose weight do it for health, being slim is the cherry on top. And the drugs are proven fo reduce the risk of pancreatic cancer and no increase in pancreatitis. It’s also reduces rhe risk of the other issues you raise, because being fat is a major risk factor that causes them.

No legit pharmacy sells at 85 quid. Are you buying from a hair dresser or something?

No, as I’ve just explained I buy a 5mg pen every 8 weeks so it works out about £85 a month. It’s just how I manage my budget (£85 a month feels better than £169 every other 🤣)

I've lost 8kgs so far (no jabs).

It's actually just down to be very consistent annoyingly. If you have any issues with weight loss, hormones, autoimmune, medication - it just makes it even harder. Add in little children. Wowzer.

I've got PCOS and two preschoolers. It's taken me 1.5 years, and the first 9 months I was only greasing the wheels. I had to get my body to a point where I could actually do exercise that made an impact.

Then I added in a calorie deficit, not huge, a sustainable one. It limited fat, carbs, and maximised protein.

I lost the 8kg in the last 6 months.

It was the calorie deficit and being able to do high impact workouts, strength and conditioning mainly.

Yes, by cutting down portion sizes, eating healthier foods and keeping an eye on how many snacks I have. I eat more fruit than I ever have done now. And drink plenty of water. It's hard work and slow, but the slower it comes off, the better it will stay off. I was 24st at my heaviest and am now down to under 17st. I am 6ft tall though, so although I was heavy it was spread out and I was in proportion.

Your method won’t work for the majority of people though who wake up in the morning, are hungry, are hungry again at lunchtime and are not tired out by making and eating a meal.

This is really important. The jabs have risks… but being obese carries much greater risks for the majority of humans.

I lost 8 stone with slimming world. About the same with weight watchers and less with atkins, calorie counting, cabbage soup diet etc etc.
the difference is I put it back on every time. I have now lost over ten stone with the jabs and I truly believe I will keep this off as I now have the medication as a tool to help me. I now do a lot of exercise and eat appropriate portions.

Thank you ☺️

I lost nearly 4 stone before jabs were a thing. But that was massively caused by anxiety though!

My dd!! She has lost 4 stone in the last 2 years by religiously tracking her calories on an app and ensuring she is in deficit (or at maintenance if, for example she wants to go out with friends or is on holiday). She also walks as much as possible instead of taking public transport and goes to the gym. She is my absolute hero! I have lost 3 stone on the jabs and, next to her, feel like I have cheated!

I lost 4 stone in 6 months with Slimming World and I've really enjoyed the journey. I attend a lovely supportive and at times hilarious. I'm still going each week so I'm maintaining my weight loss (and it's free once you're at target).

I've gone along to a meeting a couple of times but just cannot understand how it works. Also it doesn't seem to teach healthy eating. I can't eat loads of pasta and they seem to say it's fine to eat unlimited carbs . I am pre diabetic, it makes no sense.

The thing that is wrong there is restrictive low calorie diet. If, after you lose the weight, you go back to eating like you did before, then you will put the weight back on.

That happens with any diet, if you start over eating again you will obviously gain weight. It doesn’t matter how you lose weight, if you don’t carry on long term of course you will regain.
I think there needs to be a whole change on our approach to food. We should be looking at what our bodies need to be healthy rather than just focusing on the aesthetic of being slim.

I use WLI for my health, not to be ‘slim’. I don’t use them because I’m stupid either, I use them because they help me stick to a proper balanced diet. The idea that people who use WLI don’t understand nutrition is mad, lots of us will have a bigger insight than most ‘average’ weight people. Not being able to lose and maintain weight doesn’t mean we don’t k ow what to do, it’s far more complex than that. WLI have supported me to eat the healthy diet I always knew I needed.

There are issues with using weight loss drugs long term that people should be aware of as it can impact future health (pancreatitis, gallbladder issues, kidney stones, loss of muscle as well as fat).

You are aware my risks from being morbidly o see were far more serious than any of these you have listed?

It works! You can have pasta but a third of your plate has to be speed food, so fruit or vegetables. (Not every fruit or vegetable is speed)

It works because if you follow the plan you're not hungry.

It's changed how I eat. I thought I was fairly healthy but now I eat a lot more fruit and vegetables. I've cut down on bread and I don't eat a bag of nuts or a block of cheese for a snack!

Similar to me, I lost 9 stone in 9 months in 2019 and kept it off, but every day is resisting temptation and food noise. But I have the life I want and endless confidence.

I lost 70kg naturally, but back on 60kg- pregnancy, hubby being ill and losing the time for the gym and time to mwalprep...
I have been back on it- and lost nearly 25kg in 2 years (with 8 months of high stress life living in hotels and 2 miscarriages).... Only 35kg to go and only trying to lose 2-3kg a month- mainly as I often put 2.5kg back on during the week of my period...
For me if I don't have time to meal plan/prep it all goes to pot....

The issue isn’t how to lose weight as many many people can lose weight be it with injections or not. It’s maintaining it and not regaining it and yo-yo dieting for years (this was me) that’s the issue for the majority of people.

We do need to totally overhaul our lifestyles and relationship with food and eat better and only as much as our new lower weight needs for maintenance but also there are studies and research into how fat tissue has a memory and after weight loss these cells try everything they can to get back to their previous obese state.

Apparently when we lose weight we don’t lose fat cells they only shrink and these cells have a memory and want to expand to go back to being much bigger. The longer we are obese the more memory they have. And these fat cells respond faster to the food we eat so we then gain weight quicker by eating seemingly normal amounts of food. The cells also could respond faster to fatty and sugary food.

These cells can lose their memory but it can take years maybe up to a decade, which is very bloody depressing but it does explain why weight gain after weight loss is so common and also highlights the importance of eating well and within your maintenance calories and exercising to keep the weight off long term until your body forgets it wants to be obese.

From what I’ve seen of the diet industry, its focus is on getting to target and then people relapse after that - why? I’m guessing it’s going back to old eating patterns rather than keeping going with the healthy eating lifestyle change, which is for life.

Yes, obesity means your risk is already high but GLPs increase them further due to rapid weight loss. The chemical changes they bring about via slower emptying of the stomach and effect on enzymes incl bile chemistry affects how the body naturally works. The nausea/diarrhoea some experience on GLPs can lead to dehydration and increase risk of kidney stones.
So yes, obesity has health risks, but GLPs do too.

I lost 3st 4lb in 2014. Put some back on. Lost 3st 2lb around 2022. Put 2st back on which I’m now trying to lose again but it’s harder now I’m older. All with slimming world. I’m refusing to jab myself which medication I don’t need!

Please give me the errors. I’ve researched the use of GLPs and that is what came up. If I’m wrong I’m happy to be corrected but that’s not what the research is telling me.

And yes Silenceinside is polite and I thought I was too. I apologise if I’ve come across as rude, it’s certainly not my intention. I don’t feel it’s wrong to question GLP use though, because we should be able to discuss it on a discussion board.

@anonymoususer9876 I think I have already clearly responded to the comment about "additional" risks. What I said was:

"I also think it's really important to recognise that being obese is not a neutral position. You are already at higher risk of pancreatitis, gall bladder issues, kidney stones as well as a whole host of other issues. Losing weight via GLP1s will overall reduce your risk of those conditions, not increase them, which is why they were approved for weight loss."

The part in italics is the relevant comment.

Can you explain how WLI helps people stick to a proper balanced diet?

Can you also help me understand what the complexities are? (Mine were a busy life, having children, time poor, mental health)

I was overweight - I thought I was eating healthy with white rice, jacket potatoes etc. I was wrong.

I lost 2.5 stone via weightwatchers and exercising like a demon. I’ve let it off for 2 years. My DH followed suit and lost 3 stone on WW and exercise. He’s now 2 years on and still at goal weight.

We do WW but we keep it really healthy. I call it ZoeWatchers as we count points but go mega healthy.

Personally I wouldn’t touch an injection with a barge pole. It can be done in other ways.