Has anyone lost weight without the jabs ?

[thethreegreens]

Nowadays I see so many posts about weightloss and then about the weight loss jabs and pills, has anyone lost weight without using the medication ? I’m really big for what I was before and uncomfortable but feel like I’ll just fail also taking the jabs medication is not an option for me

Yes many people have, I have. It took 18 months but it has stayed off and I'm determined not to be obese again. I found it very slow and frustrating because I like food but not impossible. . You have to be strict about portion control, cut out snacks, cakes , biscuits , chocolate,etc cut down on carbs, and I also found intermittent fasting helped.
But also many people lose weight with the jabs.
Everyone is different and the jabs have been a life saver for some people

Well of course! Do you think no one loss weight before? I lost 60kg before. I did gain it back through two pregnancies and a type 1 diabetes diagnosis. So on the journey again. But due to the diabetes I can’t take WLI. It’s down to calorie counting and consistently eating at a deficit. I lose about 4kg/month.

Yes, I have. I overhauled my diet because there is bowel cancer in my family and I wanted to reduce risk and be more healthy. I’m early 50s so menopausal too.
I used ZOE and knew this was a “rest of my life” change regarding the food I eat. I just happened to lose weight at the same time and have maintained that. The blood test showed that my body processes fat and carb/sugar poorly and the continual glucose monitor (the same as diabetics wear) was an eye opener seeing how my body responded to carb intake. It has meant less joint pain, more stable moods, no dizzy spells (due to sugar spikes and drops) and the knowledge on how to make better choices.

That's amazing. Well done!

How much did it cost if you don't mind me asking?

I've done it many times before with calorie counting . The last time I lost two stones by reducing carbs to a minimum and calorie counting. However I am finding it really hard to get into the zone this time. Each time something has just clicked and it's worked but this time I am struggling to find the click. In the past I've focused either on fat or carbs primarily but also counted calories .

I've lost 5st 9lb without jabs or exercising due to being disabled. I just eat 1 meal a day around 3.00pm, I'm never hungry & the weight is coming off steadily losing an average of 2lb a week.

How are you not hungry though? I’d be ravenous

Of course people have but be aware long term significant weight loss without the jabs is rare. Many of those with success stories will just gain the weight back.

Sounds highly disordered and unsustainable

Nonsense

It's really not rare. Also many people on the jabs can't sustain their weight loss once off the jabs.

It's not, I don't usually get up until lunchtime & I'm not hungry enough for a meal for 2-3 hours when I have a substantial meal that keeps me full for the rest of the day, today I have had lasagne with a massive salad & a bowl of strawberries, tomorrow I'm having lamb chops, baby new potatoes & peas with the rest of the tray of strawberries. I've never been a breakfast eater & by the time I've cooked & eaten my meal I'm shattered, it's not like I'm starving myself.

Yes. Haven't dieted for years. I started dieting on the 1st of this month. I have cut bread out as I love toast ect for breakfast. I have got into the swing and started snacking less. I just want to lose 1 stone. I think I feel slimmer in my clothes slightly.

I'm housebound & disabled, I never do enough to make myself hungry, I eat around 1000 calories a day, never feel like I'm depriving myself of anything, I just cut all the crap like chocolate & crisps out that I used to eat, I eat loads of meat & protein.

People on the jabs don’t have to come off them though. I certainly don’t plan to. Of course i wouldn’t sustain my weight loss, I have tried and failed for 30 years to lose and maintain, WLI can help me achieve this so why would I stop?

By far the greatest issue with weight loss is NOT the initial losing - most people can manage a stone or so through a calorie deficit diet - what they cannot do , is sustain it. Then they regain it plus more. This begins the cycle or yoyo dieting, When you go on a restrictive, low-calorie diet, your body burns both fat and muscle for energy. However, when you regain the weight, it returns almost entirely as body fat. Because muscles are the primary site where glucose is cleared from the blood, losing muscle tissue severely lowers your body's overall capacity to process insulin and your blood sugar causes overpowering hunger especially for highly processed carbohydrate heavy food.

Just to show everyone the incredibly remote chance of dieting back to healthy from a point of obesity (type 1) (so BMI 30 to 24.9) the huge UK wide research study published by Kings College London in 2014 set it out in stark reality. For women, 1 in 124 successfully managed to achieve this. Of those incredibly tenacious ‘1s’ 78% of them had regained all and more within 5 years. For those with type 2 obesity (BMI 35-40) it was 1:624.

THIS is why GLP-1 weightloss drugs are miraculous game changing medications that have enabled this poster to lose 8 stone 9lbs and KEEP it off for two years so far. However people really need to research how these drugs work . If they did, then no one who was previously obese due to insulin resistance - would ever consider trying to sustain their weight loss without these drugs. You may be a healthy weight now but you are still insulin resistant and without the drug you WILL pile it all back on again no matter how well you have embraced a healthy lifestyle whilst on the drugs.

I’ve never been hugely overweight but have battled with my weight much of my 30s, it’s a constant fight trying to keep my BMI where I prefer it (somewhere in the middle of healthy). I’m active, I eat generally well, but have a sweet tooth that is my downfall. The jabs have been life changing, I’ve lost weight a lot in the past, it’s miserable, I can’t sustain it, it creeps back up.

Ive resigned myself to taking 2.5mg a week for life and I’ve never felt so free. I don’t think about my weight any more, it’s keeping me in the region I’m comfortable with no effort. It’s worth every penny of that £85 a month.

I am the 1 in 624.

The thing that is wrong there is restrictive low calorie diet. If, after you lose the weight, you go back to eating like you did before, then you will put the weight back on.

I think there needs to be a whole change on our approach to food. We should be looking at what our bodies need to be healthy rather than just focusing on the aesthetic of being slim.

There are issues with using weight loss drugs long term that people should be aware of as it can impact future health (pancreatitis, gallbladder issues, kidney stones, loss of muscle as well as fat).

Where is it £85?? It’s £160 near me

I buy a 5mg pen every 8 weeks and count clicks to do 2.5mg a week. (So it effectively works out £85 a month, or technically £169 every 2 months)

@anonymoususer9876

I think there needs to be a whole change on our approach to food. We should be looking at what our bodies need to be healthy rather than just focusing on the aesthetic of being slim. - I am not sure that wanting to not be obese is all about the aesthetic of being slim? I certainly wanted to be healthy and am not at all interested in just being slim.

There are issues with using weight loss drugs long term that people should be aware of as it can impact future health (pancreatitis, gallbladder issues, kidney stones, loss of muscle as well as fat). - I also think it's really important to recognise that being obese is not a neutral position. You are already at higher risk of pancreatitis, gall bladder issues, kidney stones as well as a whole host of other issues. Losing weight via GLP1s will overall reduce your risk of those conditions, not increase them, which is why they were approved for weight loss.

The loss of muscle can be easily mitigated and is a risk associated with any long term weight loss.

Yes I’ve lost 10 pounds since around March no jabs in sight I do a sort of 24 hour fasting diet and cut out all the chocolate and really heavy carb foods

The meds have only been about a few years so everyone who has ever lost weighr before that did it without. And of course 7 million on in the uk which leaves 27 million over weight or obese people not on them,