Why are you not taking WLI?

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First of all I do not look down on WLI. In fact I possibly regret not going on them as my weight loss has been very very slow (50 pounds in 18 months). With plenty of step backs after holidays, Christmas etc. I must have lost the same 7 pounds at least three times.

But I chose not to go on them as I have had horrific gallstones ever since my last pregnancy and just could not risk it after they finally went away.

My cravings have definitely reduced since I have made diet and lifestyle changes. Was living off and craving pasta before my weight loss journey. And now I can definitely take it or leave it.

Just curious to hear why you didn’t go down the WLI route?

It is annoying when people come onto those threads and state things that are not true, or incredibly rare, yes

I think WLI could be extremely beneficial to someone with a binge eating disorder TBH. Removing the drive to binge would leave space for psychological work to take place not to mention the physical health benefits of losing weight.

Yes, the people who seem to benefit the MOST are those who had problems around binging.

You are so angry. Is it because you have an ED history and therefore can't take them? I'm not being goady, I'm genuinely asking. I can imagine it must be very frustrating.

A very good friend of mine is a leading endocrinologist. He says they are to be avoided due to the lack of data on long term effects, particularly on the pancreas and there are some major concerns in the medical field. I’m inclined to believe a professor in the field 🤷🏽‍♀️

Well thankfully the experts know better which is why no provider will rightly prescribe it to anyone with a history of ED.

Thankyou! I did shake for breakfast, protein bars, fruit, meals are protein with lots of veg or salad. I make it exciting by adding lots of spice and trying new recipes. So basically I follow the same plan now as it was so manageable. I lost a stone a month so it was all gone in 9 months.
I let myself have a few days off every now and then to let the beast out haha and it works. I exercise every day.
I saw someone post the other day that only a low % of people lose all their weight and 78% of those who do lose it put it back on. I found that so depressing but it IS hard, I have to fight it and control myself every day. I have to miss out on so much, it feels like I’m surrounded every day with people tucking into junk! It has to be a total lifestyle change and that’s why people on WLI are putting the weight back on if they don’t make those changes.

@Disturbia81 Thank you! I’m also focussing on eating protein and veg for most meals so fingers crossed 🤞

That's literally been contradicted on this thread by a poster who you directly responded to. What is your issue?

Clinical trials and research are being carried out now. Thankfully the experts aren't as weirdly dogmatic as you are

https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT06847399
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11156433/
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/obr.70049?af=R&utm_source=chatgpt.com

I have seriously considered them as ideally I would need to lose 5 stone to get down to my ideal weight. However my reasons for not are:

1. The concerns about not being able to keep it off and having to essentially be on them for life..
2. The cost and possible future fluctuations in price
3. The potential short term and long term effects
4. The risk of gallstones with losing weight too quickly
5. Not being able to enjoy food anymore as I've heard it takes the enjoyment away

I've made some good lifestyle changes recently in changing my diet and doing more exercise. I haven't lost a significant amount of weight however I generally fo feel a lot better in myself and the bloat has gone.

Have you ever had an ED? If you had then you’d appreciate why I can’t be blasé about a relapse.

Just lost a stone last year and kept it off by eating well and exercising. changed lifestyle and eating habits. Not that hard really

Maybe not if you’ve only got a stone to lose. WLI isn’t indicated in that scenario anyway.

Also, those studies are about binge eating disorder, not bulimia, which I am in recovery from, or anorexia. They are too complex to be lumped in together.

But you can see how losing 10 stone might be harder? You can understand the do between you being slightly overweight an someone struggling with obesity?

Because fundamentally having been very slim, I know that my weight gain is as a result of two pregnancies and portion control/lifestyle. So I am making a sustained decision to change both of those things. I’ve been very low carb and high protein for the past month and have lost a stone plus made a conscious decision to increase exercise and as the children are slightly older( still both under 5) I am prioritising myself each week for me to do that. I don’t have anything against WLI but I know I just need to get back to my previous lifestyle/habits and the weight will come off. To me this is a more sustainable choice.

I didn't lump them in together. I specifically said that they may be useful for binge eating disorder. You stated they would never be prescribed for any eating disorders, which is clearly not the case.

Nobody is expecting you to be blasé or to take WLI. But you're arguing positions that are incoherent and you're so angry about other people discussing the positives of them and yet you can't acknowledge this comes from your own ED perspective and likely some frustration that you're excluded from taking them. That must be very difficult.

I am not in the slightest bit angry! You really do project don’t you. Please don’t assume you know me or that my ED is making me blind to critical thinking about WLI. I am allowed to disagree!

You can do it 🖤

Yes I know a few people who have been rejected for having previous binge eating disorder.

As I've already said on this thread, I have/had an eating disorder. My dr knows this and prescribed WLIs for me.

I'm not going on them because

1. don't want to lost muscle mass
2. red flag for disordered eating - can I stop when I reach healthy BMI
3. there's other plans that work for me
4. no urgent rush to lose weight fast - need long term sustainable change
5. cynical part of me thinks they will have the worst outcomes for the most deprived people who won't go to gyms to build muscle mass back up

Main reasons would be side effects (unknow long term ones rather than short term, although those too)

Cost

Keep seeing stories of people putting all the weight back on when stopping, so can you ever stop?

Just not for me, even though it would amazing to lose a bit easier!

If I were ten stone heavier, I probably just would anyway.