Why are you not taking WLI?

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First of all I do not look down on WLI. In fact I possibly regret not going on them as my weight loss has been very very slow (50 pounds in 18 months). With plenty of step backs after holidays, Christmas etc. I must have lost the same 7 pounds at least three times.

But I chose not to go on them as I have had horrific gallstones ever since my last pregnancy and just could not risk it after they finally went away.

My cravings have definitely reduced since I have made diet and lifestyle changes. Was living off and craving pasta before my weight loss journey. And now I can definitely take it or leave it.

Just curious to hear why you didn’t go down the WLI route?

Yeah i noticed lots of 'im not fat enough' smug replies 😂😂 but then you get people like that even on black mumsnetters for example and people who don't apply to the question or topic insert themselves into it.

Simply can’t afford them. When/If they drop in price I will be one of the first in the queue!

But it’s the same on weight loss thread, where people on them are asked a question and people not on them rush on and post misinformation.

Laughing at the double standards of WLI users complaining people who wouldn't qualify for WLI have dared to answer the OP. Surely the same applies to you? The OP clearly asks "why are you not on WLI?" and there's been a rush of posters saying "Oh but here's why you should take them!"

Is someone complaining?

But it’s the same on weight loss thread, where people on them are asked a question and people not on them rush on and post misinformation.

Sounds complainy to me.

It’s clearly irrelevant if you have no weight to lose! 🙄

It’s a statement of fact. In the English language a complaint is an expression of dissatisfaction.

so for example, I’m really pissed off people not on the injections post giving mis information on them. Thays a complaint.

my statement” “But it’s the same on weight loss thread, where people on them are asked a question and people not on them rush on and post misinformation.”

expresses no dissatisfaction, it is simply a factual statement, and as such, doesn’t even come close to the definition of a complaint.

Can I ask how that makes you feel? I'm genuinely interested as I'm quite passionate about people not having the same access to healthcare as others because of finances. Whether that be WLIs, dentistry, counselling, or whatever else so many are blocked from.

Risk of side effects : friends i know were so ill with nausea, men developing BO, weight coming back on with all of those who lost.

I have a friend obsessed with any latest fad so she really was keen to jab, but even she suffered hair loss, and was exhausted and nauseous. I was surprised when she said she wasn't going to use them anymore.

I think sods law, ill have side effects, and I refuse to risk this.

I used to take them, I stopped them due to side effects that wasn’t worth it, made my life miserable and was having gallstone issues

I don’t have much weight to lose now so I would no longer qualify but the horrible side effects I experienced are my main motivation not to regain weight as I couldn’t face taking them again in all honesty but they did help me lose weight and I was envious of those who didn’t suffer gastrically as they do work

I browse the WL chat forum as a ‘thinner person’ as a former obese person because every day is still a struggle in terms of weight gain, it fluctuates and I still need to work very hard and keep motivated

I felt shit too , even eating very well indeed - tons of heartburn even eating blandly , so did 5 weeks and stopped- I have kept up the principles though and so far am 15kg down but taken 9 months so far

I met someone last night who had started on them as she needs to lose quite a big chunk of weight so that she can have hip replacement surgery which she wants to have quite quickly as she's in a lot of pain. I thought that made perfect sense for her. I also need to lose quite a lot of weight because I'm obese and pre-diabetic and really don't want to go further down that route. However I'm not going on them as I know I can lose weight without the drugs - I've done so before. The challenge for me, as for so many people, is keeping it off, and I would like to find a way of doing so, which doesn't involve long-term medication.

My father died of pancreatic cancer at a young age, so I just don't want to do anything that may increase my risk, I think if it wasn't for that I might have tried them but not certain.

Being obese increases the risk of pancreatic cancer. I didn’t know WLI also did, I wonder which risk is bigger?

From what I understand it was found in very early trials on mice about 35 years ago, but the drug tweaked and it not seen again, but has to go on the box,

considering glp’s have been in use for over 20 years globally and did 15 in trials, there doesn’t seem to be any reports of pancreatic cancer increases coming out of any country,

I didn’t know either so just looked it up. Seems that pancreatitis increases the risk of pancreatic cancer, so I guess the logic is that WLI increases the risk of pancreatitis thereby increasing the risk of pancreatic cancer.

Ps...I'm type 1 and take insulin been with the family chemist for 12 months lost 7 stone. I just had to submit a letter from my gp amd they approved.

@mondaytosunday also Dr Franks prescribes to type 1s xx

https://www.drfranks.co.uk/blogs/news/can-type-1-diabetics-take-mounjaro

You can do it. I lost 9 stone and have kept it off for 7 years. And I’m a binge eater! Something that has worked for me is think of your favourite things/weaknesses and replace with something similar but healthy. One of mine is chocolate.. I used to deny myself chocolate when following a healthy plan as thought you had to. Then of course fell off the wagon eventually as I craved it. So I found some nice protein bars and shakes that are chocolate flavoured, and that satisfies me and stops me having a binge.

@Disturbia81 That's amazing! Any other tips on how you lost the weight?

Obviously the question was aimed at overweight people who might consider taking WLI - wondering what stopped them. Why on earth would your opinion as a thin person be of interest to anyone?

It's only semaglutide that may be associated with increased risk of vision problems, not tirzepatide

No it won't. I've lost 3.5 stone over the period of using WLI and 2.5 stone in 18 months on Mounjaro. I work out twice a week including weight training and I'm pretty muscular. Never gone over a 500 calorie daily deficit. Of course I lost some muscle along the way as it inevitable when you lose weight but if you do it mindfully there is no reason you should lose any more muscle than any other method of weight loss

WLI have been such a net positive for so many people it's hard to resist trying to share that especially when people are worried unnecessarily - lots of people think they will lose their enjoyment of food, or think it won't work for them because they are emotional eaters, or they are NOT emotional eaters eaters or whatever. When you have first hand experience of something being so amazing and life changing you want to share that. It's hardly sinister.