Why are you not taking WLI?

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First of all I do not look down on WLI. In fact I possibly regret not going on them as my weight loss has been very very slow (50 pounds in 18 months). With plenty of step backs after holidays, Christmas etc. I must have lost the same 7 pounds at least three times.

But I chose not to go on them as I have had horrific gallstones ever since my last pregnancy and just could not risk it after they finally went away.

My cravings have definitely reduced since I have made diet and lifestyle changes. Was living off and craving pasta before my weight loss journey. And now I can definitely take it or leave it.

Just curious to hear why you didn’t go down the WLI route?

So sorry to hear you've had breast cancer. I hope you're responding well to treatment. I can see now why your GP has prescribed the jabs despite the ED.

Thank you, I'm now classed as cancer free although I'm still having rehab therapies. 2026 is going to be my year of recovery.

I’m a type 1 diabetic and it’s not approved for people with that.

Nobody is saying that you should “put yourself in the pathway of a known risk”. They are saying that WLIs are not the only, or even necessarily the best, way to lose weight.

I lost 6st. I reduced the risk of death or serious illness from obesity, and I did it for medical reasons.

If people who are spending a fortune on WLIs in the hope of an easy fix for obesity instead of valuing their own health enough to make long term lifestyle changes, they may need to justify it to themselves. I think there’s an element of lost cost fallacy in that kind of reasoning.

I'm type 2 diabetic and on medication. I've lost 4 stone through sheer bloody hard work but can't seem to shift another ounce. I've been rock steady at the same weight for a year. But my GP/diabetic nurse won't prescribe any WLI's and I personally feel it's too risky to try without medical supervision. And IMO a pharmacist doesn't count as someone able to do so. I'm also very worried that I could lose weight but struggle to maintain it like I've been able to maintain natural weight loss.

@LoserWinner "If people who are spending a fortune on WLIs in the hope of an easy fix for obesity instead of valuing their own health enough to make long term lifestyle changes, they may need to justify it to themselves. I think there’s an element of lost cost fallacy in that kind of reasoning."

I think that the implication that people who choose to use WLI don't value their own health enough is wrong and deeply judgemental. Valuing my health is exactly why I chose to use WLI to move from being morbidly obese to being in the healthy weight range. It's not an "easy fix", it is something that has made long term consistent weight loss possible and achievable for me. I did it for medical reasons too. And it has involved long term lifestyle changes.

Great that you have lost weight without WLI, a brilliant result for you, if it's maintainable of course. But that isn't possible or achievable for everyone, and choosing a medicated approach does not mean that people are deluding themselves about their reasoning, or that they don't care enough about their health.

I really wish I could but I have no gall bladder, have had pancreatitis, thyroid issues and only 1 kidney. All of which means WLI are a big no no.

I know someone who lost about 3 stone and then stopped because of the piece and I
know someone else who lost about 6 stone but they have consistently denied using the jabs (but it’s obvious for so many reasons).

I also have other friends who are on them but they don’t appear to have lost that much. One said once she reduced her dose (because of cost) the cravings came straight back.

I don’t get why there are so many people ashamed to admit they are on the jabs. I’d tell people honestly.

I’m on them but I can tell you why my brother and SIL aren’t on them yet constantly complain about being overweight and are “jokingly” very jealous of the amount of weight I’ve lost. DB wants to do it “the proper way” so that he can “feel a sense of achievement” (even though he’s been trying for 10 years and it’s never happened). SIL is scared of the long-term side-effects.

@SilenceInside Great that you have lost weight without WLI, a brilliant result for you, if it's maintainable of course.

Oh, it is - I have maintained a bmi of 19.5 for several years. Like I said, I made permanent changes.

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@LoserWinner that’s a brilliant result for you that very much bucks the trend and makes you an outlier as someone who was obese, has lost the weight and maintained it long term. It’s really very few people who manage that.

It was only a few years ago that people were raving about vaping instead of smoking and look how that went. We won't know the full extent of the damage for some years to come
With weight loss injections I can see the benefits but think it wont be for some years that we start to see damages
I'm eating healthily and smaller amounts and losing 2 lbs a week. I need to lose 2 stone to be my ideal weight . It'll take time and self control and is quite boring but I feel more comfortable knowing I'm only making positive changes to my body rather than the nagging doubt I'd have with injections

@fndshalom a better comparison would be medications that help smokers quit, like Varenicline for example. It’s also a prescription only medication. Vaping is not a medication and is simply just a less harmful way of getting nicotine, rather than a method of stopping smoking.

The body WLI achieves (on the whole) isn’t the body I desire.

I had a BMI of 35 so would have qualified (privately).

However, I didn’t go for them (lost 5st the “old” way) because

• I have bad enough reflux issues as-is so didn’t want to take the risk of that side effect
• I am relying on the pill working, not for contraceptive reasons but because I’d be ill for three out of four weeks without. Another risk I wasn’t willing to take - I’ve had medication mess up my pill once before and it’s not something I’d like to repeat.
• I am generally not someone to quickly take medication. Don’t get me wrong, I will if needed based on the benefit and alternatives - but I won’t if there IS a sensible and credible alternative. (Like I’m managing my GERD through diet as much as possible).
• As such, I don’t want to be on medication for life unless I really have to be. Maintaining is hard enough as it is, but doing it the way without medication, I am already having to deal with “food noise” while losing weight.
• I had lost 30kg before. Yeah, I put 40kg on again after maintaining for five years. But I couldn’t see why I wouldn’t be able to do it again. (The losing bit only hopefully!)
• I am restricted enough food-wise as is with my bad reflux - I didn’t want to be even more restricted and at least be able to enjoy the foods I can safely eat without having to worry about potentially not getting on with something due to the jabs.

Me neither, I don’t give a crap. I thought it was a genuine thread, and wouldn’t want a fat person to no use them due to some made up shite or over exaggerated risks. Silly me.

I do wonder if it makes people feel better to post shite or exaggerate rather than say I can’t afford them and I’m fucking miserable.

I can afford them and I am happy. I am also overweight and I don't want to take them. I am and shall continue losing weight without using them. Nothing made up about what I have posted here.

agree totally, doesn’t seem to be any bollox there, good luck on your journey x

Oh, OF COURSE it must all be made up. God forbid any woman dares to apply critical thinking over her own body and health to decide not to take them.

I can afford to be on jabs for the rest of my life if I wanted to. I won't because of my history of ED.

I'm not alone on this thread in being able to afford them.

Now do pop back to the WLI cult board and leave us non-believers alone.

This is a really interesting question and one I've pondered. I've struggled with negative feelings towards my body the whole of my life and, like a lot of women, the cycle of hope and recrimination of dieting. Post children my weight stabilised in a healthy BMI but menopause has pushed it up, although I'm addressing that now with some success.

There's a notorious Times article about microdosing to lose that stubborn half stone that made me feel really tempted.

My reasons are:

1. I don't weigh enough to qualify. Could definitely microdose or get from somewhere but I think the fact that I don't qualify should tell me something about their use/misuse.
2. I don't like the idea of being on them for ever or fearing that I can't lose weight without them.
3. If I have to choose between fit and not-as-slim-as-I'd-like, I'd choose fit, especially now that I'm in my 50s. I love exercise and sport, but I'm naturally pretty lazy and I think we're evolutionarily programmed to want to conserve energy if we don't need to run for food or our lives. I am so happy when I exercise and I feel so glad to have done it, but at 7am if you ask me whether I'd rather stay in bed or run, I'd always want my bed. Looking good and weight management isn't the only reason why I exercise but it's a big incentive. If I get/stay slim without exercising (and I know that people on WLI do weights etc but given that I'm not overweight to begin with I don't know that I would), then I wonder whether I'd move less. And that would be a bad thing.

Where did I say it was all made up? We all know there’s some right old bullshit being posted on here. Yes of course some is accurate, and good reasons, some is utter cringe worth shite. Trying to pretend that’s not the case makes me wonder, especially about your declaration you can afford it for life.

sure.

I could take them, even without a gallbladder i think it's still possible. I can afford them and I'm fine with needles... but... i want to lose weight on my own without a crutch. Food is an addiction, my food disorder is in my mind... WLI are just a bandaid with side effects as well and it takes so long on them I could be losing it myself.

Obviously not invitation only but also - OBVIOUSLY - no one is asking a thin person why they aren't taking WLI. So why are you answering? It's just a dick move.

If I saw a thread title "Women over 5'4" do you ..." or "Parents of toddlers would you ..." or "If you're in your 30s have you ..." I wouldn't answer because these questions don't apply to me and no one cares what I answer because I wasn't asked.

Do you see?

@Talipesmum I’m doing it this way and we are foodie too - still eat the right things and cook well but went down to 2 meals - a 500 cal 11.00am brunch ( usually cottage cheese, ham, hard boiled eggs, Greek yoghurt type thing - and up to 750 in evening . Still make curries, bolognese, chillis , tagines etc - and ample portions too -use cauliflower rice and mix it in.

I did 6 weeks MJ, hated the heartburn and felt like I had morning sickness 4 days a week