Any Lardy fatties in their 50's want to join me in weight loss

[5NOV]

Morning, I'm looking for some company in my quest to lose the lard.

I'm useless at dieting, I have managed to shift one stone since Christmas but I keep losing and gaining, rinse and repeat.

Anyone up for joining me.

I was wondering if there would be any interest if I ran an online session for the group to help with the weight loss journey? There's so much I could cover, but I'm thinking a session on over desire, over hunger and emotional eating would be a good place to start? Of course this would be completely free, but wanted to gauge if this is something anyone would be interested in? (Note: I'm not a doctor, nor a nutritionist but I have been through this myself and would share what worked for me.) These self-same approaches help with cutting back alcohol too.

@AnnaCharles888 - I, for one, would definitely be interested. My biggest problem is boredom eating, so if you could find a way for me to convince myself I'm not hungry, merely bored, that would be really helpful! :D

Hi everyone, it’s great there are more people, I am enjoying reading everyone’s updates.

herbaceous welcome, I cook dinner 5 nights a week and we all have the same except I leave the carbs off my plate and double up on the veg. However there are lots of lunches and snacks of garlic bread/pizza/pasta/cooked breakfasts that I simply skip. I have become good at knocking up carby junk for my teens and resisting it. Unfortunately I have to eat a lot less in order to lose weight. At the moment I am having salad for lunch with tuna or scrambled eggs and asparagus, dinner is lean meat or fish and buckets of veg.

I have lost 6 lbs in 2 weeks and 2 inches off my waist. My lunch is in a couple of weeks so I would love to lose another 6 lbs. I still won’t have a hope of fitting in my nice clothes but it’s a good start.

AnnaCharles888 that’s a very kind offer but wouldn’t be for me. I am not on any social media other than this thread and an introvert in real life.

Keep going everyone. It’s so horrible being fat in the hot weather.

AnnaCharles - nice idea, I might. Depends on how what it was and on what platform.

I do find being accountable helps, my friend and I are accountable to each other. But she has started slimming world diet and is doing really well, and I'm..... not

but back on track now. 1lb down after 3 days. Just zero snacks and desserts (snacks are my issue) and normal sized healthy meals.

@steppemum I'd probably use Zoom as it's so easy if that works?

@NotWhereIWantToBe I can definitely cover that - boredom is a very common cause of emotional eating. I used to call it my 8pm watershed!

@AnnaCharles888 - for me, it's my wfh day; working in the dining room right next to the kitchen has led to many internal battles, too many of which I've lost! Am trying very hard to resist temptation at the moment, or have an apple instead of a couple of packets of crisps if it all gets too much.

@AnnaCharles888

Not sure. Fitting in yet another online thing feels daunting, what with FB, Insta, MN and various WA groups to keep up with. I also have an internal sulky teenager that doesn't like being 'improved' by other people. I realise this probably not helpful!

Fuck me this is hard. I’m hungry and I’ve had my carbs for the day. Eating almonds but it’s not really cutting the mustard

RickOShay my go to is nuts too, just don’t eat a handful, a spoon of peanut butter is filling or do you like tinned sardines? I have read protein is what we need for hunger pangs. I have become a bit obsessed with rocket leaves, eating a bag a day with tomatoes and feta.

I tried snacking on frozen grapes. I hate frozen grapes.

Might try a teaspoon of peanut butter...

I’d love to join. I’ve started already but I’ve a long way to go. I got my bmi down from 29 to 27 by doing OMAD aka one meal a day for the last two months. Nothing else was cutting it for me and I was getting really upset at the creep of weight gain during lockdown. I thought I would never be able to cope on one meal a day. But now I enjoy it. I’ve cut out all the mindless snacking and I truly enjoy my dinner which is my one meal. I bridge the gap in the day time by decaf coffees or teas or herbal teas. No snacking. I’ve even managed to do the odd work out while fasting. I’m dreading falling off the wagon as I’m an all or nothing kind of person. GP is very impressed and told me my blood pressure has come down too. I’ve still a long way to go but hoping I can keep going and wishing everyone good luck with whatever methods you choose. I think we are all different and it’s about finding your own routine.

Thank you for snacking tips. I think I have eaten too many almonds
Also eaten an entire tub of hummus.
Would you mind if I asked what you ate @Babymamamama and when please?
I have to do this. None of my clothes fit. Mine was lockdown smacking too. Netflix, cup of tea, snacks, perfect. Ds1 and I both have put on weight doing that. It was nearly worth it though, so nice

I don’t own scales, so I’m going to weigh myself at my sister’s tomorrow. I’m 5 8 and I estimate I weigh just under 12 stone.

@RickOShay no problem. I eat a normal dinner of whatever the family are having. Tonight it has been salmon with salad avocado honey and mustard dressing plus coleslaw and a bread roll with butter. Followed by a raspberry magnum. Yum! I know it’s not totally healthy but it’s not too bad and as I hadn’t eaten all day I really enjoyed it. I’m not particularly low carbing I’m more focused on trying to get all my nutrition from one meal. So I am taking some supplements- probiotics and probiotics to boost the digestion plus multi vitamin and omega three. I figure if I’ve skipped breakfast and lunch I deserve a nice tasty (early) dinner.

@AnnaCharles888 I’d be interested in a zoo. I’m stuck with eating badly as a reward for things not going well when rationally I know the best reward would be to eat better and exercise more which would improve my physical and mental health

Thank you @Babymamamama. Sounds delicious
How do you deal with hunger pangs during the day?

The hunger pangs only lasted a week at the beginning. I tried to embrace them and visualise the fat burning if that makes sense. I honestly think my body has adjusted to this new schedule so I no longer get hungry in the daytime. I’m sleeping better despite being menopausal and also my skin is brighter. There’s a great book by Jason Fung on obesity which covers why this works. I can’t say I’ve read the whole thing but I’ve read extracts and it makes sense to me. Hope this helps. Maybe give it a go for a week?

I worked late this evening, realised I wouldn't be home to eat at a sensible time, popped into Planet Organic, but they didn't have any salads left.
Picked up a keto bar, didn't have my glasses to read the label - organic, keto, what could go wrong?
It was certainly low carb - 3 grams, but 470 calories - it was minute! - about the size of a snickers bar.

@AnnaCharles888 - interested in zoom - when are you thinking of doing it?

The hunger pangs thing is interesting.

They cannot actually be hungry if we have eaten, so they are (I think)

1. our stomach which is used to getting drip fed all day, and now it is actually not full. We have to get used to that sensation. Our stomachs take several hours to empty, so it isn't empty, it is just not as full as usual, not getting new food. I think we have lost the ability to listen to our bodies, so learning to feel and accept these different feelings is part of the process.

What is interesting is that when you haven'e eaten for several hours and you go to eat you really are hungry and the food tastes better!

1. psychological, we have taught ourselves to eat every twenty minutes hour and so our brain triggers us to ask.
2. situational - I walk in the kitchen and go Oh what shall I eat? Now I walk in and I'm teachign myself to say - what shall I drink - tea of water?

I'm just unpacking some of this stuff for myself, sorry for the psychobabble musings!

57 and over 12 stone!! Have been doing IF for 3 weeks but hardly any loss which is disappointing.

Unfortunately I think at this age we just have to eat a lot less than we used to. I am eating mainly veg, salad and lean protein, no processed food, no junk. My body is hanging onto my spare tyre like its at war with me.

@steppemum I think you onto something there re hunger pangs. There has been interesting stuff on TV about how our ancestors didn’t top up eat all day and this phenomenon is fairly new. Even in my childhood in the 70s we had three square meals per day and nothing in between, no snacks. Also that our ancestors ie cavemen or whatever were programmed to put on weight when they got a meal and to pick the highest calorie option because if they were a Hunter-gatherer or whatever and they didn’t know when their next meal would come so the body would turn their food into stores fat. We have the opposite situation with food on tap and less motivation to get active as we are never hunting or going without. So we need the famine periods of fasting to let our body recover from all the food. That’s the way I’m trying to look at it anyway. And a little bit of feeling hungry isn’t a bad thing (unless you have an eating disorder obviously).

I'm now at the point where my BMI is 33. I have never felt so unhealthy and frankly I hate my body.

I am aiming to get out of obese and into overweight on the scale. That means I have at least one and a half stone to loose, though realistically I know I need to shift three stone. I have a wedding to go to in ten weeks time. I aim not to be obese be then. I am walking 10K a day and have stopped breakfast. I never ate breakfast pre lockdown and I think it is one of the problems. The main issue though is evening snacks. I have replaced those with pain fruit ice lollies. So far this week I have lost 4ibs - I always lose a lot at the start of diets so I know this will not continue.

I have to do this. My knees hurt and clothes look terrible on me.

Babymamma
yes the change in eating habits is interesting. As a child we ate 3 meals, plus a peice of cake when we came in from school. Sweets were rare (bag of penny chews when we got our pocket money) no crisps, no kitkats etc in the cupboard. Very different.

There was an really interesting programme on a few years ago called - habits of thin people. They looked at a group of thin people to see if there were any similarities they shared, I can't remember them all, but a few were

1. they didn't snack. they ate 3 meals, but didn't snack or graze in between. My dh is thin and that is the fundamental difference between us, he never, ever eats between meals.
2. if they over did it the day before they naturally cut down, without thinking about it. So huge restaurant meal, the next day they had no breakfast and light lunch.
3. They moved a lot. Even if sitting in front of TV they were fidgety. Never just sit.

Some of them ate crap food too, but they all had these things in common.

Agree with feeling hungry is ok. Problem is sometimes I can feel sick and really odd if I’m very hungry.

The problem is that if I want to lose to weight I can’t eat hardly anything.
I don’t eat much meat at all. Perhaps once a year if that, so protein is a bit tricky. Going to have an egg salad today. Thank you to everyone it’s really helping chatting here.
Hope you all have a good day.