Paul McKenna "I can make you thin" - Jan 2018

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Anyone up for a current thread? I've had a good search and couldn't find anything recent!

I've got the book/cd and am downloading the app too. I'll start tonight.

I've never done this kind of thing before but am very open to it working :)

pp thank you. I would love to tell her how rotten her attitude and behaviour was towards me but she's old and she wouldn't understand anyway and would deny deny deny. Grrrr!!!

Yes parents memories seem to be different to ours.

Curious I know as a parent myself that most of us do the best we can given the knowledge we have but my Mother was a dieter who put me on one, called me fat and I spent my childhood dieting and feeling fat. She still critiques people today for their weight and thinks she is so much better than others because she has managed to starve herself all her life. I saw other families eat normally and longed for freedom around food. Food was such an emotive issue in my home. Awful really.

Ok The marvellous belly busting crunch!

!. Lie on a firm flat surface (i do this on my mattress\bed!) on your back , arms by your sides.

1. Count to 7 slowly raising your head and shoulders IMPORTANT TO KEEP YOUR HEAD IN LINE WTH YOUR SPINE . hold for the count of 7. and bring down for the same.

That's it! I do it 3 times each morning and evening. If you are fit and want to increase the difficulty include your arms up flat behind your
head . It's great because it activates your muscles which work on through the night!

Dotty that sounds awful. I was skinny as a kid and ate like a horse. I hated being skinny though.

Thanks ppeat I'll try that.

Funny how our parents influence us. My mum was always watching what she ate but she was careful to NEVER put us on diets or make us aware of our bodies negatively.

I loved ballet though and the classes and auditions weren't great for my self esteem. I think it must be human nature to compare ourselves with others!

Too late to say it was meant to be when the 'carers' we're out, not carpets??

I'm so sorry to hear you had a horrible time too DottyDots.. Mine wasn't caused by my parents though but my foster parents. I was in care from before I was two until 18.

Year

Sorrry I brought the thread down .

Hope everyone is doing okay. I still haven't listened but I will. I've had a tough week and haven't felt very well so I'm just taking things easy.

You haven't brought the thread down Year. Hope you're ok soon

Thank you CuriousMama. I'm feeling a bit useless today as still haven't had time to listen and I haven't eaten properly today or been on my exercise bike. I have walked nearly 5.5 miles though.

Year just start again next meal or one after that. If you beat yourself up your inner self will rebel

dotty are we sisters? We seem to have had the same mum.

Give yourself lots of space with this. I have had to stop focusing on weight loss, and am doing this program to heal my relationship to food, rather than just to get thin. I’ve had to really step away from the scales because the fear and compulsion that result from me stepping on them is too much.
But I do feel that this program has given me some breathing space away from dieting/ falling off the wagon. And once or twice I’ve found myself just not eating / buying treats, even when I’ve given myself the choice to.
I really want to step out of this cycle which has ruled my life since childhood.

So sorry for what you’ve been through you and dotty. The way you were treated is so cruel and makes me feel very angry on your behalf.

So I no longer feel that I’m getting lighter — don’t know because I’ve stopped checking — and clothes still tight. But strangely I’ve sort of let go of caring about that. I’m finding the real benefits are in my attitude to myself and that they’re showing up in other areas of my life more — feeling less anxious, procrastinating less, etc. And also just getting much better sleep.

Still not cracked the mindful eating, and I find it really hard to untrain myself from bolting the food down without letting it touch the sides.

I’m with you ohyes. It seems to me this is a good way of releasing yourself from all the destructive behaviours we build up around food etc. Sorry to hear you also had a tough time with this as a child.

Tomorrow is another day

Good job as tonight I was at a beer and cheese night. 7 cheese based courses I was very mindful of what I ate!

OhYes we must have . I agree with you about stepping away from the scales. Even after a couple of weeks it can damage your mind. At first people may gain with this way until the mind accepts that you are not dieting anymore and that you really are allowing your body to eat ANY food it wants. Eventually you find you can take or leave cakes, cheese or chocolate. That's the best place to be but as soon as you weigh yourself and make yourself feel bad about your body then the disordered eating will try attacking you again.

Whiskey glad you are feeling the mental benefits of this.
Eating disorder clinics refer to the negative voice in your head that tells you you are fat and need to lose weight as something you need to ignore and tell to get lost every time it rears it's head and do the opposite, which is to eat what you want, when your properly hungry. Your body knows what it needs if you can allow** yourself to trust it. I know it sounds odd but in a way those of us who feel this way about ourselves do have eating disorders/disordered eating.

Curious that 7 course meal sounds lovely. Since doing PM though I can only eat one course and share a pudding. I use to be able to put away a lot of food without really enjoying it but not anymore. My husband blames PM when I stop halfway through a meal and declare myself full

7 cheese courses sounds amazing curious!!

Please forgive me DottyDots as I have sinned[sad). I was feeling a bit lighter so weighed myself. 2lbs down. Yay! I am going to try really hard to listen to the CD today. I need to prioritise me as I'm always last and sometimes don't even make the list.

Thank you WhiskyandRed. I'm a littlelot embarrassed at peoples kind messages. I guess they make me feel it's okay to be sad about what happened. It's only through seeing dh face when I tell him stuff that I've realised recently how bad things were.

Curious would you like to tell us about the different courses? Sounds wonderful!

The courses weren't big. 1st we had some sort of bruscetta with a different name with an unusual goats cheese and sundries toms. Had prosciutto salad. Then apricot stuffed with a bit of some other unusual cheese. Can't remember the cheese names. I meant to bring a menu home as they were just on paper. Then was mild curried chickpea and butternut squash on indian halloumi. After that Italian balls of rissoto can't remember name stuffed with cheese. Then Mac n cheese but really tasty unusual cheese. Then lemon curd cheesecake and date and walnut scones with chutney and a blue cheese. We took scones home as couldn't fit them in. I couldn't drink all the beer either so dh got more. I ate slower than I used to.

Sundried toms

O sounds yum Curious 🧀