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Alevere / Alizonne

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dm2ooo · 23/03/2015 11:46

For reasons unknown, the name of the Alizonne diet has changed to Alevere. I have only known it as Alevere and wanted to start a new thread so people can find it under the new name.

I am nearing the end of week 1 and have lost 8lbs so far. I don't count this much as I lose 7lbs in the first week of any diet. I'll see how I go over the next few weeks.

It's a lot of work to follow but I'm getting used to it. Would be happy to swap tips with anyone - particularly on recipes.

Also very happy as I won £500 today which covers a lot of the 1st month costs!!! :)

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BexxG · 27/11/2015 13:56

Hi all, i could have sworn i posted after my weigh in last week but apparently not! So have had two weigh ins since last time i was here. Last week i lost 3 and a half pounds (respectable) and this week just over a pound! (Gutted). I'm so varied at the moment.

The doctor rang and tried to cheer me up by saying i was still two weeks ahead of my fast track schedule but its just disheartening. I have to travel an hour to get to clinic in the first place so to drive all that way for a pound sob

Sigh

Struggling with water again so i'm wondering if thats it.

That curry sounds nice Alpha, might try that.

Also have been quite constipated. Clinic have suggested Movacol or whatever it is? Has anyone used this?

SpaceCucumber · 27/11/2015 16:39

Woop! Bloods came back, and although for some reason my calcium levels are higher than they should be but I've been given the go ahead for starting on Monday. :) Only question is whether I have the calcium supplement or not now.

alphachick007 · 27/11/2015 18:43

Hi I don't know whether its just me but it doesn't matter how I mix the chocolate sauce for the pancakes it turns out lumpy. I found a great solution, chocolate pancakes! Yep you mix the pancake & sauce mix together. Then I add the water 80ml first then slowly add up to 40ml or until a smooth pancake consistency batter.

If you like Canadian pancakes, you can make them by:

  1. Mixing pancake packet as usual, set this aside
  2. Whisking one egg white until it forms stiff peaks.
  3. Slowly fold pancake batter into the egg white mixture
4.Use the one cal spray to grease your pan
  1. Drop dessert spoons of batter (about 3 at a time) making sure there is space between the pancakes.

If you like the pancakes sweet use some of your sweetner allowance to sweeten.
If you want chocolate Canadian pancakes, mix the sauce and pancake mix together when making the pancake batter.

I hope you enjoy them as much as I did.

DubaiGirl · 28/11/2015 11:37

I have been on the Alizone diet twice (2009 and2012) and had great results both times. I am now starting again under the new name Alevere but don't feel as motivated as before. I have had a lot of stress this year and have been comfort eating. I know this diet works if you stick to it and don't cheat. I'm hoping that by opening up on here and posting my weight loss weekly it might help.

alphachick007 · 28/11/2015 14:35

Hi DubaiGirl, welcome back. I am sorry you have had a lot of stress in your life. I am working on new strategies to handle stress because comfort eating has been my downfall. I don't want to keep doing the loop the loop of weight loss and weight gain as I have been doing for years.

Disappointing week
This week I had a disappointing weight loss of 1 and a half pounds so I am hoping I'll loose double next week. I am determined not to let it get to me.

Correction to Canadian Pancake recipe you need 1/8 tsp baking powder and only half an egg.

If you like Canadian pancakes, you can make them by:

  1. Mixing pancake packet as usual, set this aside
  2. Whisking one egg white until it forms stiff peaks.
  3. Slowly fold pancake batter into the egg white mixture
4.Use the one cal spray to grease your pan
  1. Drop dessert spoons of batter (about 3 at a time) making sure there is space between the pancakes.

If you like the pancakes sweet use some of your sweetner allowance to sweeten.
If you want chocolate Canadian pancakes, mix the sauce and pancake mix together when making the pancake batter.

I hope you enjoy them as much as I did.

DubaiGirl · 28/11/2015 16:51

Thanks alphachick007. My weigh in day is Thursday so I'll post how I get on. Think I'll need to find some coping strategies for my stress as well as it just ends up a vicious circle.

SpaceCucumber · 29/11/2015 11:56

Quick question (sorry I promise I'll do personals soon), are we allowed to flavour our water with sugar free flavourings? I don't like lemon in water and I'm getting a bit sick of the bland taste of water alone. Was wondering if I could put sugar free squash or cordial into it...

Slimslimslim47 · 29/11/2015 18:29

Gosh what a wet and windy weekend - I hope you are all safe and warm wherever you are.

This week has been difficult due to very busy at work and deadline for MSc thesis is looming so didn't eat enough veg and salad and felt tired and by Saturday dizzy. First time this has happened but a few good meals over the weekend and I am feeling much better now - tried the pancake recipe this morning and it was great so thanks AC 007 for the idea.

I still managed 2.5lb loss so 5lb off the two stone mark and that has really incentivised me. 12 kilo to phase 2 which I am hoping will be the new year. But I am now showing a 13 as the first number and it is such a longtime since that happened.

I really have a goal as for my birthday we are booking to go to the fat duck and I will be off my diet and on maintenance by then and I hope a lovely 12/14 - I have already bought the gorgeous red dress off eBay for the evening and hung it in the spare room to keep me focused on what I want to achieve.

SC - I don't know about adding anything to the water but as they keep saying at my clinic is it on the list - I say no and then they say well there is your answer! I have sparkling water at home as this is better than still but at work it is still from a water fountain and I have it ice cold and that seems to do the trick. Good luck for tomorrow and remember you can do this.

DG - welcome back and I hope the stress can be turned into something positive for you and the clinic help you with coping strategies and ways to deal with it through the diet and into the new eating regime the other side.

BexxG - previous posts mentioned the movalcal and some got on with it others didn't. I take it you are having the stewed rhubarb each day? The other thing to try is strong black filter coffee, I make up a really strong pot each night and put in the fridge and in the morning I use it to mix with the vanilla desert to make a big latte and that seems to do the trick for me, if not then in the afternoon I will have a strong decaf expresso and touch wood I have not had any problems so far.

I hope I haven't missed any posts but if I have sorry.

Have a good week everyone and stay safe and warm, just think we will all be at least a stone lighter by Christmas 😀

wolfie100 · 30/11/2015 12:34

Hi all

I sense there are a few people feeling a little disheartened with low weight losses. Honestly don't worry if you have some weeks like that when you know you have been good. The weight loss will catch up with you.

I know I have had lots of weeks like that and you do feel frustrated at travelling and paying £240 to lose a pound or even less. BUT I've lost 6 and a half stone and couldn't have done anything like that without Alevere. Stick it out - honestly you will get there! You also have to be prepared that you weight loss does slow down as you get closer to your target weight.

I am now on my last week of stabilisation and had chicken and rice for tea last night. Was very excited but do you know what it didn't taste anything like I thought it was going to. I am not going to rush to have either again.what a shock. What has been absolutely lovely though is having grapes again. They taste amazing! I am only going to have them as a special treat as I can't stick to the small amount you can have of them if I have grapes in the house!

Very scared about my post therapy assessment on Saturday and what it means beyond there but I have already booked maintenance and treatment appointments for the following two Saturday's to keep me on track.

Will keep you posted.

dubaigirl -welcome and if you have any tips or things to avoid for keeping it off post stabilisation let me know!

Have a good week everyone.
Xx

Anna50 · 30/11/2015 18:13

Hi all. Thanks Wolfie for keeping us posted. Your loss is amazing. Well done and good luck with stabilisation keep us posted. Xx

SpaceCucumber · 30/11/2015 20:03

First appointment today went well. I lost another 0.3kg just from drinking water.

I had my ultrasound treatment on my love handle area. It was OK ten minutes on each side of a lovely warm tingly feeling. And then I had my non-surgical body contouring treatment which was a bit like being vacuumed all over your body. LOL

I've so far had two of my 5 meals today. Pancakes and chocolate spread with strawberries, which was quite nice, and a pizza margherita which was not so nice. I didn't like the texture of it at all, or the tomato topping. Might try making it into garlic bread tomorrow and see how that goes down.

Although I'm counting this as day one, my first full day on the diet with all the supplements etc is actually tomorrow.

I've still got to have a hot chocolate tonight. Hopefully that's nicer than the pizza was. Grin

Slimslimslim47 · 30/11/2015 20:50

Space cucumber

Well done on your first day - the pizza topping I find is better if I dry fry up lots of chopped mushroom and mix it in and then add on the top - I also use less water than they recommend, and then put it back in the oven to a few minutes.

Good luck x

Pipan127 · 01/12/2015 23:16

Oh lots of lovely posts for me to catch up on! Hi all and welcome newbues and returners! Stay strong.... I get weighed and 'hoovered' tomorrow morning. Two weeks on stage two and sooo enjoying my evening meals. Weight losses are lower now- 0.7 and 0.9 so far but 5st 4lbs since July-totally amazing!!! Soon be 13 st something too. Not been there since 2001! Yes very old obviously. Have discovered 'not your daughter's jeans'! Omg these make you look 7 lbs thinner immediately. Cost £150 so EBay girls. Well worth it. Found them by accident and managed to get a pair for £10!

Anna50 · 02/12/2015 18:34

Hi Pipan, nice to see you back. Well done on amazing weight loss in such a short time, your posts keep the rest of us going!!

SarahRose88 · 03/12/2015 14:15

Hi guys, sorry for disappearing, been moving houses... It's so great to read how's everyone is getting on and you are doing so well and are such an inspiration!

wolfie, couldn't agree more about fluctuations in the weight loss. For me it's practically one week great, one week awful ) so the most challenging thing (at least for me it is so) is not to get dishearted and not to give up. And you'll be rewarded for your sticking to your guns! )

Starting phase 2 tomorrow (whooooo-hoooo!!!! - can you tell how excited i am lol). Quite afraid of how my body will react to normal food (as my digestion is not at all great since i've been in this programme). The therapist at my clinic who also is under the programme said that when she cheated (omg! Lol) she had a bad diarrhoea and gas ) but she didn't have any problems with digestion being on the programme... So don't know what to expect Confused

It's also quite interesting to see that people come back to the programme after finishing it and repeat it again... I was hoping that the results would last for a while... DG, can you tell us a bit more about "life after programme", lol? )

Speak soon (hopefully!)!

SpaceCucumber · 03/12/2015 21:37

Hi girls. Four days in, I'm really struggling.

I've missed my last meal tonight, I just wasn't hungry and am suffering with nausea and was worried if I ate again I'd throw it all up. Will it undo everything if I've missed a meal?

Plus, I'm just finding I don't really like the food. I like the cheese omelette and strawberry milkshake, I can tolerate the hot chocolate if I bake it and the beef and onion soup but everything else I've tried (pizza, pancakes with chocolate spread, peach and mango drink) makes me gag.

Oh, and I'm really struggling with the supplements. I can't take the potassium at all. And I keep forgetting to take the others. I'm not used to eating so frequently so my entire focus has been on remembering to eat all the meals. I'm trying not to beat myself up over it. It's a huge change for me to be doing all these things and I figure if I'm doing the eating properly at least, that's not as bad as if I kept falling off the rails. But I've set alarms for everything so hopefully tomorrow will be a good day for both food and supplements.

Oh and I weigh myself every day at home (I know, I know...) and my scales have gone down from 86.8kg to 85kg so far! Well chuffed with that. Smile

How's everyone else getting on?

Slimslimslim47 · 03/12/2015 22:17

SC - I found the first week really hard trying to remember everything so I created a little booklet with it all on one page and just ticked things off as I went. I only had the omlette a and drinks on the first two weeks and by the time I started adding in other foods I was ready for them. I am now in week 8 and my tastes have changed - I loved the curry soup and now I don't really like it. Try to have lots of salad and veg - I am going to roast up a big tray of beg tomorrow to have with a very thick beef soup as a dipping gravy.

With missing meals I was advised today it is better to have two satchets together than miss a meal so I knew I could get all
My meals in today therefore for tea I have a double vanilla made up as a huge latte which I had after a big bowl of salad with homemade mustard dressing on it. You will get into the swing of it honest.

SR88 - phase 2 congratulations that is great the longest part is over and 70% weight lost you must be justifiably very proud. Good luck with the reintroduction of an evening meal.
Pipan - such am amazing loss since July 😀 And thanks for the tip on the jeans picked up a pair on eBay last night to see how they will fit and then once I hit goal and maybe a size 12 I will find a stockist and go try on lots of pairs and treat myself if they are all the write ups say.

It was treatment day today and another 1kilo down, very pleased as its a short week for me I usually go on Saturdays but needed to get my bloods done, and also I tend to go first thing in the morning. And this was mid afternoon after breakfast, snack and lunch! Oh and my TOM is due tomorrow so all in all I was very pleased.
Two more weigh ins till Christmas and I am really working to get my activity levels up now so I hit 2 1/2 stone before Christmas Day and 3 stone by New Year.

Good luck everyone x

alphachick007 · 04/12/2015 21:56

Hi, I weighed in yesteday and had lost another 2.5lb. So I am starting stage 2. I wasn't very keen to finish stage 1 as I have 10lbs left to loose to reach my goal weight & I don't want to slow weight loss down. However Amanda my Therapist says that people who don't go through Stage 2 & 3 tend to have difficulty maintaining their weight loss. So here goes. This week I followed the doctors advice and had an extra sachet on the days when I went to the gym that seemed to work better for me because I had more energy.

Spacecucumber I struggled to fit in all the meals but now I make 3-4 meals first thing in the morning or on busy days I make them the night before and take them out with me. Also I make a big pan of mixed veg and add different seasonings each day for variety. But check the packaging because some of the seasonings have sugar. I use perri-perri; curry, Garamasala; morrocan. I got most of them from Morrissons. The rhubarb with vanilla drink tastes like rhubarb and custard which is lovely. I found most of the savoury meals disappointing but you can make the pancake mix into a savoury by adding mushroom & spring onions.

SR88, Wolfie and all you super slimmers Well Done

Cupcake0310 · 05/12/2015 11:25

Well done everyone! Great to hear you're all doing well.

I had a bad lost last week, only 0.8kilos but it was week 6, and every 3 weeks is suppose to be rubbish. Back today however and lost 1.6kilos so I'm happy again. That's just over 2 stone!!!

Spacecucumber you're doing well. The first week is hell!!! Try eat all your meals as you need to keep calories going in. You'll get use to eventually! Smile

SarahRose88 · 05/12/2015 12:44

Spacecucumber, the first week is indeed awful, hold tight, it will get much better - you'll get used to the food and get into the routine that suits you. I was really thinking of giving up after the first day, haha ) you're doing so well, keep going hun! x

SpaceCucumber · 05/12/2015 14:36

Thanks ladies. I'm sorry I'm not chatting so much at the moment, just finding this first week very difficult.

The only thing keeping me going right now is the fact that I get on the scales in the morning and am seeing results. Hopefully by the time the drastic results start to taper off I'll be used to the food and supplements.

I think next week I may just get the strawberry milkshakes and cheese omelettes. This week I'm trying to focus on the meal times and eating, next week I want to focus more on the supplements as I've missed loads of them this week. I'm just struggling with the routines and remembering everything. I've set alarms on my phone, got it written down to cross off and still keep missing things. I'm getting very frustrated with myself! Hmm

SarahRose88 · 05/12/2015 15:02

SC, i've got a pill case for the supplements - really helps (although feels like you're 80 years old, lol), and the sachets i wrap 5 for each day to make sure i take them all. Basically i found it easier if i prepare everything, incl rhubarb and vegs for a whole week in advance. Works for me ) good luck dear and don't get frustrated, in contrary, you are doing great!!! It is very important though to take all the supplements - it might be the reason of your feeling not very well. Xx

Anna50 · 05/12/2015 22:16

Hi I am into 4th week now- 20 pounds gone! Really pleased and hoping for a another half stone before Christmas. With the foods- some are ok. I'm not keen on green veg but cook them a bit and then blitz with a soup sachet , making it quite thick. I am finding the quinlon hard to take, but others are ok. Looking forward to having a bit of a break over Christmas and then hope fully only 4 week to stage 2. Good luck everyone. X

wolfie100 · 06/12/2015 01:26

Hi all

Spacecucumber - honestly it will get better. Try the vanilla dessert with some stewed rhubarb. Also try the chocolate dessert and hot chocolate too. Keep focussed on what you are achieving and your body will soon get used to it all.

Well I promised an update from my final session today. It was hard. I wasn't expecting to feel so emotional but I had to fight back the tears during the session. I think it was the fact that my fixed regime has come to an end and I am sort of out there on my own now and can eat anything that is scary and hard. Going to the clinic every week and eating sachets and very limited types of food has become the norm and finishing this is very unsettling.

It was useful though aw I got my new metabolic rate -1272 calories per day to maintain this weight. Doesn't sound very much! I also got told my BMI is 25 which is officially healthy. I haven't had a healthy BMI for over 25 years so it's a phenomenal achievement.

The big question is can I keep the weight off???

Well I asked the staff about my chocolate craving I have constantly. She said if I have to have chocolate then something like an options hot chocolate is best. Failing that a spoonful of Nutella as at least it's full of protein. Or I could have the odd two squares of dark chocolate if I absolutely have to.

So I have a big confession to make... Having heard all of this (and having starved myself as you can't eat before you get your metabolic rate tested) I went into the supermarket after the clinic. They were giving away free samples- the first one was Lindt chocolate and I simply couldn't resist. So I had two. I then had two samples of cake. I then bought a jar of Nutella and as soon as I got in the car I opened it and stick my finger in and ate loads. Do you know what it was fantastic - people had said to me it won't be as nice as you imagine as you- but it was.

However I now feel terrible. Not only do I feel like I have really let myself down but I also feel very bloated and really quite sick too. I have told my husband to get rid of the remains of the Nutella jar before I get up in the morning. I never want to see Nutella again!

So where do I go from here? Well I have devised a plan. I have found an app which I have put on my phone and iPad on which I can keep a food diary. I have loaded in all the food I was having on stabilisation like rhubarb, salad, fruit, porridge, meat and eggs etc and have planned my day for tomorrow and set my own diet plan and have prepared all my meals in advance. It doesn't have any nutella in!!

I have also learned that I am no good with resisting temptation and so I need to keep to a very strict diet exactly as I was doing. I can't have temptation anywhere near me as I have too many weak moments.

I confessed all about today to my mum who has been my rock throughout the diet. She reminded me 1) how amazing I look now, 2) how she was preparing herself for me dying young because of how unhealthily I was living - just like my dad who died of a heart attack at 48 - heavy stuff, 3) what a phenomenal achievement to lose 6 and a half stone is; and 4) how I suspected certain people congratulated me on my weight loss but really they are saying 'she will soon put it all back on' behind my back. It's true and it's another reason why I have to keep it off to prove them wrong as well as keep looking fantastic and keep able to buy skinny size 10 clothes.

I am feeling very confident I have now got control back and tomorrow is another day. I have also booked maintenance plus LPG treatment sessions for the next two weeks as I want to know I have to get on the scales and talk about how I am doing on the diet.

Will keep you posted - fingers crossed! Any tips or things to avoid from post Alevere survivors gratefully received.

a good tip from the clinic today- apparently your head still thinks your body should be big and so tells you to crave what you used to love but you have to ignore what your head is telling you- it's not telling you what your body actually does need.

Sorry for another essay from me but it really helps to have somewhere to express how I am feeling.

Keep strong everyone- we are all on this journey together and it's a massive help to know we all have each other's support and know what each other is going through. Thanks Xxx

Anna50 · 06/12/2015 03:15

Hi Wolfie. You have done so well. Congratulations. I have followed your posts since I was interested in this diet and you have been an inspiration. Putting the weight back on is a big worry. Have you thought if going to WW OR Slimming world. Not to lose more but to maintain? I think you can forgive yourself a little indulgence after so many weeks if abstinence. The fact that you felt sick might be enough to curb your cravings in the future. I am craving food all the time, I did give in one night and had a whole tin of lamb Big Soup. The chocs and biscuits I have bought as Christmas presents I have given to people to mind for me. Anyway well done, keep us posted and enjoy your size 10 !! Xx