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New Year, New Thread #16 For Paul McKenna's Losers!!! He Can Make Us Thin!!!

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Solo · 01/01/2015 13:03

Happy New Year Everyone!
Welcome to thread #16 of the Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin weight loss system.

The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded friendly support system are:

  1. Eat what you WANT
  2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
  3. Eat CONSCIOUSLY
  4. STOP eating when you are satisfied

HELPFUL TIPS!
Lots of chewing; at least 20 chews per mouthful.
Ask yourself "am I really hungry?" have a glass of water to see if it's real hunger or just thirst; wait 15 or 20 minutes if you can, before eating something to see if it's 'gone off' after a drink. Listen for your 'full signal' and leave at least a mouthful on your plate at every meal. Eat your favourite thing from your plate first so that if you get to the full signal, but have your favourite food still sitting there, you aren't going to 'make room' for it because you love it, it will have already gone.
Admire something about yourself every day in the mirror.
Try to move more; dance around the living room or walk to school...use the stairs...small things, but good things! :)

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches. After all, eating a meal is not a competition, it's about enjoying what you are putting into your mouth and body, but not feeling bloated and uncomfortable (or guilty) afterwards!
Many people have issues around food. Many of us have been brought up by the 'clear your plate' parents of yesteryear which leave us feeling guilty if we leave even the smallest morsel of food, but we are working through this guilt or any other hang up we may have, and we are learning to leave a bit on the plate; return to it another time if we really want to or even feed it to the dog or the bin!
So!! forget diets; they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. This is a new way of living for your brand new life!! Let's get lighter for those summer outfits!!

The Paul McKenna system really works and is easy to maintain; we just need to change how we treat food and ourselves.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here are the book choices on AMAZON which is all you need to get started! they aren't compulsory, but they do help! it's something to refer to and listening to the cd's can really focus you.

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

You don't have to buy the book and CD, but we have found that they do help and somehow they keep you on track, so it would probably be a good investment and will cost you far less than a couple of trips to WW or SW meetings, so do consider having them in your life.

Please feel free to join us, whether it's 10lbs or 10 stones you want to lose; it's very doable.
We are friendly, supportive and successful, but we're not hungry and that is a great way to feel when you are dropping dress sizes at the same time!!! so come on in and start living your new life today and make 2015 your year to drop a dress size or several...if we can get those lbs off a few at a time, just think how we could look and feel for the sunny summer time!!!
Some of our thread members are also doing PMK's Hypnotic Gastric Band and although this thread is not about this avenue, we will still be supportive of our friends partaking of this, so don't think we won't be there for you. I'm pretty sure that the Golden Rules will be just as helpful in this process as the I Can Make You Thin process Smile so get stuck in Smile

Here is a link to Freedom From Emotional Eating which may give some insight into why we do this and help us beat it.

Ps. Could we all try to sign in at least every few days so that someone is 'there?' We have established that it's no fun talking to ourselves and also that if there is a new joiner, it's good to say 'hello and welcome' to them too.

Ok! Let's Focus and See Ourselves wearing that body we desire! learning to love ourselves is an important daily step, so let's become LOSERS in order to be WINNERS!!! Smile 1lb at a time....

OP posts:
Silverjohnleggedit · 12/02/2015 10:09

Ok book finished.

Some bits were very relevant, some not so much - have concluded that I am not an emotional eater, I don't look at my body and say yuck, I don't have a wardrobe full of clothes that don't fit, I have no issues with full length mirrors and daily weighing does not affect how I feel about myself...really! ....I have discovered though that I am a rebellious eater - have always had rebellious tendencies Grin, so my attempt at controlling my sugar intake has backfired and has led me to fight against the restriction and binge. Sometimes the penny just drops....last night I had 5 mini eggs, 4 small pieces of Green & Blacks and I felt relaxed about returning the packets to the cupboard - no binge, no internal struggle, no further temptation, I'm amazed!

So I'm not cured of my binging yet...but I feel much more relaxed, less inclined to berate myself for slip ups and very hopeful that I will find a balance I can live with.

Who would have thought that in an attempt to cure an addiction you flood the addict with their vice! Thank you millli your book had the answer I was looking for.

Milllli · 12/02/2015 14:16

That's what they call "A breakthrough" big Grin for you.

I can be a binge eater when I am alone in the house but it stems from a childhood where my food was totally restricted and no treats were allowed in the house nor bread or potatoes. All my food was calorie controlled and low fat with sweeteners . I loved going to friends houses where they had "normal" food . What surprised me was that these friends never binged on the bread chocolate cakes potatoes etc whereas I went mad at their houses. By allowing myself to have all the foods in my home I freed myself from the restraints of my childhood. You have a good body image and that is brilliant. Something I need to work on.

Well done you!!

Milllli · 13/02/2015 16:31

Solo how you doing with your eating. I know you wanted to lose for your family occasion so how have you done the last couple of weeks. I have lost another pound which is great as I'm eating lovely food. Hot cross buns with salty welsh butter. Grin

Silverjohnleggedit · 13/02/2015 19:39

Good loss Millli - I love hot cross buns with salty butter. I often make a loaf version, it's easier to toast and stays fresher - I haven't had it in so long....definitely on the list of things to eat.
Still really enjoying eating like this. Went out this evening for pudding with the dcs - it's a "start of school holiday" ritual and ordered with them rather than ordering a cup of tea and watching them eat....it's so nice to share the experience and working on manipulating the timings of my hunger pangs works just fine, I forgot to leave a spoonful though....next time. It's really hard to get used to just eating what you fancy...it's both liberating and frightening.

Milllli · 13/02/2015 19:55

Sounds good Silver. I now find I eat of small plates as that's all I need but if I have a normal portion then I tend to stop eating after a few mouthfuls. I could carry on eating but if I do it mindfully then I can stop after a few and feel satisfied. I find mindful eating when done well brings weight loss or maintenance.

Silverjohnleggedit · 13/02/2015 20:29

I still want/crave an evening meal of a normal size....that might change over time of course but for 6 weeks I have been choosing meals to cook with no restrictions in mind, apart from mildly fussy dcs and I've been really enjoying the freedom....I don't seems to get much pleasure from small plates of food even when eating mindfully, I get a lot of joy from the anticipation and the drama of the main meal - I spend a lot of time cooking - I feel cheated if I have snacks rather than a proper meal, like something is missing, at least I have done in the past....

Milllli · 13/02/2015 22:16

I understand Silver. I don't eat snacks though. If I eat a snack it would count as my meal as I would not have an appetite later on for another evening meal. So if I am on my own and the family are out then I would have a little salad with some fresh ham for instance. Most days though I eat generally around meal times and tend to not eat in between as I want to feel that hunger and anticipation for a meal.

Today

very small bowl of frosted shredded wheat

one hot cross bun with salty butter

Chicken in white wine and tarragon cream sauce with broccoli, carrots, peas, sweetcorn and braised red cabbage with apple and maple.

One cornetto and two clementines and a plum.

I don't often have breakfast so usually just cups of tea and then would have lunch of homemade soup and bread and butter.

Silverjohnleggedit · 14/02/2015 07:02

Tea for breakfast and then soup with ham and greek yoghurt - almost identical millli!
So had 4 glasses of wine tonight and while Dh scoffed my very lovely blood orange choc, I didn't have one thought towards eating it, but will replace it tomorrow....I'm overjoyed - I really don't mind not losing weight so much, I just need to lose the sugar bingeing, it just makes me feel so awful physically and mentally.

Btw my feelings towards my body/shape etc have changed enormously since I have learned to dress for my shape. Three years ago I got down to a fit and toned size 8 but I was gutted to discover that I still had relatively big thighs and dieting or exercise wasn't going to change that, so I learned to accept that my thighs would always be large and somehow I stopped hating them.

Milllli · 14/02/2015 15:28

Can I ask what size you are and how tall Silver. Also I am a hourglass ( 34E ) bust with a big pert out there bum and generous thighs. How do you dress?Grin

Milllli · 14/02/2015 16:06

I'm sixteen and 5 9.Smile

Silverjohnleggedit · 14/02/2015 17:46

We are very similar shapes I'm 5ft 8.5in, size 12 now I think, hard to tell with vanity sizing sometimes I wear a 10 depends on the cut, hourglass, 30F. What do I wear?...at the moment slim straight gap jeans, Uniqlo thermals and Uniqlo v neck loose fitting cashmere, with boots or stan smith trainers, I'm too cold to entertain the notion of anything else.

I wear nothing that cuts me across the top of the thighs, I'm always looking for flattering necklines. In summer lots of midi skirts, A line skirts with neatly fitting tops that sit on the hips - I have great arms and small waist - regardless of my weight, pencil skirts with slouchy jumpers, with a flattering neck line. I wear shorts that go to the thinnest part of my thigh - mid length. I play with proportions...I don't mind jackets finishing at the top of my hips because it shows shape and I'm not embarrassed by my shape any more, I'm no longer embarrassed by my thighs - I just think Beyoncé Wink.

I spend a lot of time shopping on line and returning stuff. At home I can try on, use my mirror, play with shoes and different bras etc - bras are very important, wear the right size. I leave new stuff hanging in my wardrobe for 2 weeks before deciding to definitely keep it, I go back and try it on with different things, it needs to feel like me. I had my colours done too, which helps eliminate some of the guess work...I don't follow what the consultant said religiously - I'm the rebellious eater after all - I'm rebellious in everything, I don't like being told what to do....but it helped me try out new colours and aviod making expensive mistakes. Clothes make me feel confident, if i feel poorly dressed I feel rubbish about myself - I even try to dress well when I'm running! Grin

Milllli · 14/02/2015 18:21

Thankyou. Sounds lovely actually. Now when you say nothing that cuts you across the top of the thighs, does that mean you wear tops, above the thigh? I wear long vest tops and jumpers that come mid thigh? Is that maybe a bad look for me? I sometimes think that it does make my legs look short when in actual fact I have very long legs and shorter body ( I think). Just thinking along the lines of proportions as you mentioned.

Thanks.

Octopus37 · 14/02/2015 19:44

Hi guys, hope everyone is ok. I've been a bit stressed out recently, comfort eating etc, not good I know. I will be back properly when I am in a better mindset, still trying to keep up my steps

Milllli · 14/02/2015 21:00

Really helpful Silver Grin

Silverjohnleggedit · 15/02/2015 08:57

Sorry to hear you're having a rough time Octopus - don't be too hard on yourself....exercise should make you feel better...I'm a big believer in fresh air with some great tunes on my iPod - it's a great mood lifter.

Millli I would be trying to create the illusion of a longer body - should aviod you looking top heavy - I feel I am long of body and short of leg - I've even done some online measurement thing that suggested my waist is higher but my body length is in proportion. Waisted dresses never fit. My advice is to play around with clothes and shoes you have, do it with a friend if you need a second opinion, I'm often really surprised when certain combinations work.

BeautyQueenFromMars · 19/02/2015 10:03

Hello, how is everyone?

A belated welcome, Silver. It looks as though you've gotten straight into it and found something that really works for you. Well done! Smile

Milli, how are you doing?

Octopus I'm sorry you're feeling stressed at the moment. Please come on here even if/when you're not eating the PM way. Support is most important when you're struggling - we don't really need it when we're doing well! I hope you're feeling better soon. Flowers

Solo How are you? I hope everything is ok and the family reunion went well.

I'm going through a really low patch at the moment. My depression seems to rear its ugly head more forcefully each time I have a bad few days. I'm currently in that horrible place where I don't care about watching what I eat, yet I hate my body/size and cry over how huge I am. I know I'm in that horrid comfort eating cycle, but I'm seriously having trouble getting myself out of it. Ah well, I'm sure a good few days are just around the corner and I'll pick myself back up and get on with it again.

Solo · 19/02/2015 15:40

Hello all :) I have had a tiring weekend away and not good eating habits either! lots of hotel foods, plus my friends Dp called me Sunday night/Monday morning to go sit for them whilst my friend had her baby! so I have been shattered!!

Milllli we have got a very similar size, height and shape. I have bigger boobs though at 36G Blush, but yes, hourglass here too.

Silver you sound very body positive :) can I ask your age? I am almost 51 and do not have the confidence to bare my legs these days.

Octopus yes, do keep posting :) even feeling crap, you have friendly support here!

Queen I can really understand your vicious circle of not caring what you eat, but hating the results of that at the same time; I do it too.

Ok, I didn't get to any goal for the reunion, but my Dd has her First Communion in May and I would like to aim for a stone off before then.

OP posts:
Silverjohnleggedit · 19/02/2015 18:34

Well I started off doing the right thing but I have veered slightly. Tough to follow any eating plan when routines are altered and the kids are around.....offering you cake they have just baked and iced...looking pleased as punch, I couldn't say no!
And I made fudge this evening for a gift and it needed to be tasted....but maybe I tasted a bit too much. Blush
But I am still eating mindfully, slowly with no media to distract. I think I am getting more used to sugar being around the house....I don't expect this to work overnight though.
Solo I am early forties. For years I didn't show my legs because I had varicous viens and was so embarrassed about them, but I started tanning again in an effort to up my Vit D levels and I became quite addicted to shorts and started to care less about exposing them. I can't believe I have covered up for so long!

One thing I am loving is putting an end to the negative dialogue with myself, acceptance is underrated. i am trying not to berate myself over slip ups....every one has them....the trick is not to let them define your approach. Dust yourself off and get back to it.

I have "I can make you slim" on audiobook - it's got lots of hypnotic chapters on various things from confidence, acceptance etc which ones do you find most helpful and how often do you or should I, listen to them? Is it just when you feel the need?

Milllli · 19/02/2015 22:02

Beauty what would help you to stop or slow down the overeating?
I understand that sometimes you just seem to want to eat and eat and eat even when your not hungry. It just feels like you have to doesn't it. What is happening when you feel like this, this compulsion to eat without hunger etc. Do you suffer from depression and are you on medication or dealing with it in another way. Have you been buying all the foods you love and allowing yourself to eat them without question when your hungry?

Milllli · 19/02/2015 22:07

Silver I have the I Can Make You Slim book and CD which has one hypnotic trance on it. It is suggested in the book that you listen regularly for the first month I think and then monthly after that. Reading the book or listening to the book is an important part of it too.

Milllli · 19/02/2015 22:08

Solo Smile I remember that we have the same shape etc from a previous conversation and we also exchanged photos.

Octopus37 · 20/02/2015 11:30

Hi, thanks for the nice messages encouraging me to post. Still stressed tbh but know I need to take control. Have just started listening to the CD this morning but quickly got interrupted, will try again later. Have eaten today:

Pack of 3 breakfast biscuits
Was really hungry a few mins ago so made myself a crumpet, have left a mouthful.

Going to visit a friend this afternoon who I don't see very often. We are generally open with each other, have very real conversations about what is going on in our lives. Have nevertheless chosen to wear an outfit which Ii know makes me look relatively slim. Know it is all just a case of getting my act together.

Milllli · 20/02/2015 14:58

Octopus most of the others are struggling just like you.

Octopus37 · 21/02/2015 08:24

Hi, I know that wasn't saying that others are not struggling. Have a good weekend everyone

Milllli · 21/02/2015 14:32

Sorry Octopus I think I should have posted that message differently. What I was trying to say this time and my post to you before, is that others are struggling too so you are not alone in finding it difficult at the moment. In your last post you seemed to feel that everyone else was doing well but they actually were not doing well. They were and still are in a similar place as yourself and trying to get back on track. Im so glad your still trying though and hope you find some time to start again and re boot Smile