The Paul McKenna Thread Number 13 ~ the Good Luck Number! A Simple Title, for Simple Weight Loss and All amongst Friends!!

[Solo]

Welcome to thread 13 of the Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin weight loss system.

The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded friendly support system are:

1. Eat what you WANT
2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
3. Eat CONSCIOUSLY
4. STOP eating when you are satisfied and full

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches. After all, eating a meal is not a competition, it's about enjoying what you are putting into your mouth, but not feeling bloated and uncomfortable (or guilty) afterwards!
Many people have issues around food. Many of us have been brought up by the 'clear your plate' parents of yesteryear which leave us feeling guilty if we leave even the smallest morsel of food, but we are working through this guilt or any other hang up we may have, and we are learning to leave a bit on the plate; return to it another time if we really want to or even feed it to the dog or the bin!
So!! forget diets; they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. This is a new way of living for your brand new life!! Let's get lighter for those Christmas outfits!!

The Paul McKenna system really works and is easy to maintain.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here are the book choices on AMAZON which is all you need to get started! they aren't compulsory, but they do help! it's something to refer to and listening to the cd's can really focus you.

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

You don't have to buy the book and CD, but we have found that they do help and somehow they keep you on track, so it would probably be a good investment and will cost you far less than a couple of trips to WW or SW meetings, so do consider having them in your life.

Please feel free to join us, whether it's 10lbs or 10 stones you want to lose.
We are friendly, supportive and successful, but we're not hungry and that is a great way to feel when you are dropping dress sizes at the same time!!! so come on in and start living your new life today and make 2013 your year to drop a dress size or several...if we can get those lbs off a few at a time, just think how we could look and feel for Christmas and The New Year!!!
Some of our thread members are also doing PMK's Virtual Gastric Band and although this thread is not about this avenue, we will still be supportive of our friends partaking of this, so don't think we wont be there for you. I'm pretty sure that the Golden Rules will be just as helpful in this process as the I Can Make You Thin process :) so get stuck in :)

Hi BegInning.....welcome ......Yes listen to your cd and re read the book to re boot yourself.
Jingle keep at it and each new day is a new start. You can do it. Even if it's only half a pound a week then by next Christmas you could be two stone lighter and in control. . I have not been eating much at all this last week. Too many mini traumas. But.....boy have I relearned what true hunger is. When I do eat, it's absolutely amazing !!!

Thanks Milly. Hope things settle down a bit for you, sounds like a tricky time.
I've listened to the CD today and also done the "havening" technique a couple of times. Managed to bake with ds and only eat one of the cookies we made!
Really must lose my Christmas name soon.

Happy new year everyone!

Jingle hope you manage to stick at PM, diets really aren't the solution. Had a quick flick through the papers whilst bored at work yesterday and PM had written an article in daily mail about overcoming emotional eating and preventing self-sabotage. It was really interesting and backed up what I thought about why I self-sabotage (last time I was thin I was v unhappy so subconscious trying to prevent that again) and all about how our minds are practical but not logical (ie there's no reason why losing weight would mean I'd be unhappy again). Thinking this must be from his new book, overcoming emotional eating which I've pre-ordered from amazon which I can't wait to arrive as I think it will contain lots of eureka moments!

Hope everyone's well anyway and excited to see what 2014 holds

Hi All

Hope everything settles down for you soon Milly. The true hunger sounds good. I know when I let myself get good and hungry, I absolutely love the food that I eat.

Hi Itsigg- good on doing the CD and havening technique. I was supposed to re boot and still haven't yet.

I cancelled the PM book I ordered, and thought I'd read the Geneen Roth book on emotional eating first. Will let you know what it's like when I receive it.

Jingle ....what are you waiting for .....get listening

How's you Solo and Faith ?

Hi all! Happy New Year and welcome to the new Paulers!

I'm good at self sabotage too :( but doing the mirror exercises does help with that. Thing is, I hate self admiration, so find it hard to start it off, but once you get into that, it gets easier and I find that the weight comes off.

Something that I mentioned a few threads ago is that if you feel the 'need' for something to eat, but know you aren't hungry and water hasn't got rid of it for you, try having a hot chocolate. I prefer to use Galaxy (the one made with water) and I won't touch the 'low cal' ones, though if you like the taste of those, that's fine!

Going to try the Galaxy tip Solo. I promise to reboot today Milly. Little one has her nursery induction this morning. We are both excited.

Not hungry this morning yet, but gave myself a protein shake to fill that need ( breakfast habit?)

Jelly sorry if this sounds harsh, but why are you eating if you know you're definitely not hungry??? It sounds like you're scared of letting yourself get hungry, but with all due respect you're obviously doing this because you've got weight to lose, so like a camel, your body has fat stored which it can live off without you having to worry about missing a meal. I think if you want to use protein shakes in line with the golden rules that's fine but one of the key things is NOT eating unless you're hungry, this is only going to lead to further weight gain as your body does not need the calories! If it did it would let you know through feelings of hunger. Don't worry about making promises to others, you need to make the promise to yourself

:)

I agree with the not eating if you aren't feeling hungry. Plus! at the 'job' we were probably both running around, up and down the stairs all day long and now we're not! this is big! huge! because we are not burning off as much as we are eating especially if we eat when not hungry, and I'm just as guilty of doing that!

Are you vegetarian Jelly?

I followed the rules till last night when I ended up having a cornetto for no particular reason. Need to find my book to do the revulsion thing regarding chocolate! I think I'm too deep in the whole emotional eating thing to be fixed, but will try not to let such pessimism destroy things before I start! Wanted to exercise yesterday (dvd) but never got even half an hour in the room alone to do it. Like the hot choc idea. Once you see weight going this gets easier doesn't it, hard at the start though.

Once the weight starts shifting (and it will! ) it is fab, but don't get complacent, because self sabotage is always a possibility. I'm always doing it. I have to get my CD's out and listen to them.

Don't worry about the Cornetto Its think of it as an extra NYD thing and move on. The brilliant thing about PMK is that you just continue with it in the next minute, you don't have to wait for Monday or the next day. Just be mindful when eating :) You can do this. We all can and will :)

Have you tried tapping ItsI? It really works and was a complete revelation, like you I've done PM before but never tapped (mentally kicking myself now!) and it's really helped me to get a grip on my emotional eating. Definitely worth a try.

What lovely encouragement, thank you
At pil and have little control over when eat here! But avoiding eating the chocolate on offer since I know I'm not really hungry.
I know diets don't work, hell I've been on enough of them!
Happy new year to you all

Thumbs Up ItsI

Its you don't have to do a chocolate revulsion thing. Chocolate is lovely so you just need to learn to wait until you are hungry for it and then eat the best that you can and that you love. Just a square or two left on the tongue to melt and body temperature is just lovely. Its the same with cakes. Eat them when your really wanting one and savour it and enjoy and after each mouthful that is slowly savoured think if you are satisfied before you have another bite. Sometimes you will surprise yourself and only have a couple of bites. When you can eat whatever you want and let yourself eat whatever you want, then you eventually find that you don't have to actually eat all of it to be satisfied.

Hi NoGood

I'm Having the protein shakes to fill up on. And I do have a problem with waiting until I'm hungry to eat. As I've mentioned before, I find it difficult sometimes to get away from structured eating mealtimes.

If I lived on my own, I might find it easier, but I'm always clock watching for the right mealtimes to give little on and hubby their food.

I can't exactly feed them when they feel hungry. Hubby would'nt be happy, and little one would just fill up on sweets, which is what I seem to be doing in some sort of fashion.

I'm not vegetarian, but not really a meat lover Solo. So do feel that I lack protein in my diet.

However not had a protein shake today, as have had a migraine all week. Have took pills and such, and stopped the protein shake in case it was that. That has'nt worked as migraine has come back again.

I do wonder if I am going through the change, as just finished period, and these headaches feel a bit hormonal.

Not really sure what's going on with me. Is it my diet, hormone changes?

Feel a bit yucky again today with it all.

Protein shakes are usually drunk before or after strenuous exercise. Mine are natural ingredients but I think your taking the diet ones arent you and these are filled with loads of fillers additives etc. If you don't understand what it says on the ingredients then maybe not good for you.
Jelly I'm prone to migraines too. You seem to be swinging from one diet to another at the moment giving reasons why they are good for you. Are you still doing the fasting too? Just wondered as that can cause headaches.

Why do you think that you can't wait till your hungry before you eat jelly? . Eating without feeling hunger just lays down fat stores and helps you gain weight. I think that is possibly why you have gained weight. Maybe you are eating when your body doesn't need food. I don't mean to be hard on you here but PM is unlikely to work for you until you start following your body's hunger signals. We all know when we are desperately hungry. It's a feeling that can't be ignored. Could you aim for that first so you get the feeling?

Jelly I think I'm having to accept I can't always eat with the rest of the family, if I'm to only eat when hungry.
It's hard to move beyond the "habit" side, even when not eating to fill an emotional hole, it's just so common to watch telly, have something in my hand to eat... Have been to the gym today so starting the move your body aspect
Meant to listen to the cd though and haven't I so struggle to get uninterrupted time in the house to myself, two dcs who still like to follow me even to the bathroom
It's lovely to be able to post here and all my posts won't be " me me me" as they have been thus far!

Don't worry about "me me me" threads It... we all do it.

Jelly I'm really sorry if i offended you, but like Milly said, until you let yourself get hungry this WOE is never going to work for you and you're only going to keep gaining weight.

I find I get hungry around the same times each day, obviously it's not always like this but I'd say 95% of the time. I'm not sure if this is the same for everyone but why don't you choose a day where it doesn't matter if you don't eat with everyone else, just so you can see when you naturally feel hungry? You may be surprised and find that falls in with mealtimes anyway. I don't have breakfast anymore but I do find I'm hungry more or less around the times the DC and DH want lunch and tea. Remember naturally slim people have families, work etc too so there might be times when they eat when they're not massively hungry either but then they eat slowly and stop as soon as they feel satisfied. I start work at 6pm 5 nights a week and this is when I naturally feel hungry but obviously can't eat tea then, so we eat 5-5.30pm when I'm probably just coming in to slightly hungry on PMs hunger scale. I make an effort to eat slowly ( chatting to everyone between mouthfuls) and constantly assessing for the satisfied feeling. As soon as that hits I stop and then I make sure I take a snack to work with me and tonnes of water just in case I get hungry again later on.

This WOE isn't like a diet in that it's for life, so it has to fit into your life. But it's how millions of people naturally eat everyday, especially children. All my DC including 13yo DSS naturally eat like this and they are the slowest eaters you've ever met. Remember, eating slowly and consciously is just as important as only eating when you're truly hungry, something that's hard to do with protein shakes.

I was very slim before I had Dd. I ate very slowly, but when Dd came along, I couldn't eat slowly or consciously because she screamed non stop! then other factors came along and I comfort ate.

Hope everyone is ok today :)

Has anyone read his Emotional Eating book as well as I can make you thin? Just wondering if it's worth getting.
Meeting a friend for lunch later but have actually gone into a cafe and eating some scone - was too hungry and wouldve ended up getting a large pizza or something when we eventually meet!

Mines just been dispatched from amazon I will be devouring it as soon as it comes and will report back. But seeing as emotional eating is my main problem I have high hopes! Hope you had a lovely mindful lunch ItsI