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Week 3 Little Black Dress Low Carb Bootcamp - or Bootcamp Light!

492 replies

BigBroomstickBIWI · 15/10/2012 08:59

Morning all!

Hopefully everyone has had a good couple of strict weeks, and the scales have rewarded you.

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmNIskihgXotdFVPcF9zWUhIal9BbTl5SnlTM3BlWVE#gid=0 Here is the link to the Spreadsheet of Wonderfulness. Enter your weight for today if you haven't already.

We're now ready to move on to Bootcamp Light - if you wish. If you're happy to stay on Bootcamp, then that's fine. Or, perhaps you want to do the hybrid of Bootcamp during the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend?

Whatever, here are the rules of Bootcamp Light:

1. Eat when you?re hungry - if you?re not hungry, don?t eat
In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you?re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don?t force yourself to eat. But don?t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs.
You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don?t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it ? this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more ? compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy
You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn?t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you?ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this ? but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
Even if you?re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product ? so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you?re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol
But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you?re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit
"Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please ? only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information ? these are the carb counts:

Rhubarb ? 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don?t forget you will need to sweeten this ? and not with sugar!)
Blackberries ? 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries ? 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries ? 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds
"Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs. Sainsbury?s sell little bags of roasted, salted Macadamias that work out at around 4g per bag.

Here are some carb counts ? BUT ? check the back of your packets as I don?t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:
Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners
The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us ? and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable ? occasionally ? to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

Good luck for the forthcoming week!

OP posts:
toomuchmonthatendofthemoney · 16/10/2012 20:16

As i posted earlier, i emailed Graze.com to suggest a low carb snack box. their reply came within a few hours and ive copied it as below.

"This is a great suggestion and one we're definitely keen to pursue down the line. At the moment Jess our nutritionist is busy perfecting our current nutrition boxes (www.graze.com/health/nutrition-boxes) but we certainly hope to expand this range in the future - we think a low carb graze box is an excellant idea :)

In the meantime, perhaps you would like to send soon on some low carb nibbles? Here is the top 20 nibbles that are low in carbs:

green olives with chilli and garlic
green olives with basil and garlic
ancient forest nuts
chilli and lime pistachios
black pepper pistachios
lightly toasted pistachios
mississippi BBQ pistachios
heart healthy nuts
omega booster seeds
hickory smoked nuts and seeds
fiery seeds
savoury roasted seeds
crunchini basilico
the british barbecue
keen bean
smoky gazpacho dip
summer berry compote
copacabana
born in the usa
salsa mexicanos

Let me know if there's anything else I can help you with.

All the best,

Hannah

www.graze.com

So fingers crossed sometime soon anyone interested can get home delivered low carb snack options!!

WillieWaggledagger · 16/10/2012 20:22

I missed your earlier post toomuch, how inspired of you! And what a positive response! Let's hope they follow up with that one

BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 20:25

Good response from them - although I think some of those might be a bit too carby - but really brilliant that they responded so quickly.

There's definitely a business opportunity here, isn't there?! Grin

OP posts:
Poppy1234 · 16/10/2012 20:29

singing tunelessly would love your bolognese recipe, it sounds fabulous.

Spaghetti squash was fine but quite a faff to prepare, I baked it in the oven and fried it in garlic butter. Kids loved it but as it wasn't outstanding and I've come to realise actually quite carby I wouldn't rush to do again.

MrsHerculePoirot · 16/10/2012 20:32

Hello everyone! Just posting my food to help me keep on track as DH is away this week and he does lots of the cooking...

B - three rashers of bacon
L - prawn and avocado salad
D - pork belly with roasted vegetables

S - 2 pepperamis and a packet of seafood antipasto (octopus, squid, etc... was yummy!).

Still having too many hot drinks with milk and not enough water. I need to buy a bigger water bottle to take to work and swap some coffee for some water instead!

tempertemper · 16/10/2012 20:36

Well. Biwi - last night in my horribly nibbly state, I took your idea of pb and yoghurt - and ate too much of it! So, bad day yesterday.

Today I was in an all day meeting with lunch provided - I had assumed it would be a hot lunch but actually they only had sandwiches.

B: coffee and cream. Still stuffed from late night snacking.
L: tiny piece of quiche - left the crust. Few cherry tomatoes - sheer desperation at having nothing else to eat!
D: 2 egg omlette with chorizo, feta, asparagus and a couple of sunblush tomatoes. Green salad with oily vinaigrette - homemade.
50g total yoghurt with 10g frozen redcurrants.

Bit of a nightmare 48 hours. I am hoping that because I am at home all day tomorrow I can be a bit more "on plan". Its odd because my willpower was absolutely fine today, whereas yesterday I just wanted to eat and eat and eat.

Off to google the carb count of redcurrants and sunblush tomatoes.
I need an early night tonight - I am sure I am weak in the face of sugar when tired!

tempertemper · 16/10/2012 20:39

Redcurrants - 14 grams of carb in 100g, but 4.5g fibre so only 9.5 net carbs. So surely BIWI can't shout at me for only 10g?

Doshusallie · 16/10/2012 20:42

Interesting evening. Ds2 (6)'s parents evening at school - was informed that he misbehaves all the time, is always in the middle of silly behaviour, mucks about alot, and this is hampering his academic ability Sad. So ds2 no longer goes to beavers or watches television, and I have asked his teacher to send me a progress (or otherwise) report every Friday. Hope this works......

So went to my first ever pilates class this evening, to help my poorly back (sacroiliac joint apparently). Quite a few women in the class, we were standing around waiting, in marched a Lycra clad woman with an enormous ghetto blaster, high temp very loud Spanish music class starts, everyone starts doing the grapevine. I join in, until I realise I'm in a Zumba class by mistake! I ran away and found my nice quiet relaxing Pilates. Dh pissed himself when I got home.... Blush

Shepherds pie with celeriac and leeks divine.

halfthesize · 16/10/2012 20:47

Doshusallie GrinPMSL at you in the Zumba class, hope the pilates helps your back.

Sorry to hear about DS2 parents eve, I'm sure things will improveSmile he is still very young.

BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 20:48

temper - don't stress about it. These things happen! Get back on the wagon, drink plenty of water, and make sure tomorrow is a better day.

OP posts:
toomuchmonthatendofthemoney · 16/10/2012 20:59

DH is torturing me by watching Great British Bake Off, the fecker.

debs39 · 16/10/2012 21:29

Last night, I fell off the Bootcamp wagon...and into the chocolate spread...

hurricanewyn · 16/10/2012 21:29

Evening all - had a good day today. I made a soup from a piece of yellow sticker bacon I got for 50p and all the floppy, manky looking veg in the fridge. It looked an unappetising murky green colour but was delicious and less than 10g of carbs for the pot (and there's plenty left for tomorrow).
Dinner was slow cooked pork shoulder with broccolli and mushrooms in a cream and thyme sauce.
Feeling stuffed now, but a bit low on calories, so will probably have something else before bed. DH swears by coffee with butter that has been frothed in it, but I'm not brave enough to try. Has anyone here given it a go?

debs39 · 16/10/2012 21:29

It was very nice

dotty2 · 16/10/2012 21:29

I am 4h into my 24h sponsored fast and am already hungry. However, I had an enormous tea - pork, olive and chorizo casserole with slightly odd sides of spinach, avocado, courgettes - and some celery with mayo while I was cooking. It is just because I know I can't eat. Hmm. It's going to be a long day.

hurricanewyn · 16/10/2012 21:30

Are you back on the straight & narrow now debs?. We all have blips along the way.

debs39 · 16/10/2012 21:30

Admittedly though my 9mth old little boy then drained the life out of my boobies all night...

BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 21:32

Why did you do that, deb?

OP posts:
debs39 · 16/10/2012 21:33

This isn't the first time that I have been gripped my massive sugar craving and then baby needed a massive feed...think he may be telepathically putting his orders in for chocolatemilkshake ha ha which then causes me to go bananas for chocolate spread!! This is my theory and I am sticking to it!!!!!!

PS how would you all have put right my wrongs today?? I exercised and totally detoxed on just fruit and veg...should I have had lots of fats too like on a normal booootycamp day???

BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 21:33

I notice you're not on the spreadsheet either, deb - any particular reason?

OP posts:
hurricanewyn · 16/10/2012 21:33

Does your fast include hot drinks dotty? Would a coffee with cream help fill you up a bit?

hurricanewyn · 16/10/2012 21:34

debs - how much fruit did you eat today?

debs39 · 16/10/2012 21:35

Think I may be being too strict as cutting out wheat and dairy as have had terrible IBS for years and think they may be the triggers...know that I need more fats though or this WOE won't work and I will get sugar cravings...Any suggestions???

dotty2 · 16/10/2012 21:38

Yes, am allowed hot drinks. I don't have any cream in the fridge, but a cup of tea with proper milk helped. Might try coffee and cream in the morning, I don't think any of my sponsors will mind - it's a good cause (local foodbank).

debs39 · 16/10/2012 21:39

Erm BIWI....I am scared to weigh myself ha ha!!! :(

PS hurricanewyn...4 apples and big pot of veg stew over course of the day...

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