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Week 3 Little Black Dress Low Carb Bootcamp - or Bootcamp Light!

492 replies

BigBroomstickBIWI · 15/10/2012 08:59

Morning all!

Hopefully everyone has had a good couple of strict weeks, and the scales have rewarded you.

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmNIskihgXotdFVPcF9zWUhIal9BbTl5SnlTM3BlWVE#gid=0 Here is the link to the Spreadsheet of Wonderfulness. Enter your weight for today if you haven't already.

We're now ready to move on to Bootcamp Light - if you wish. If you're happy to stay on Bootcamp, then that's fine. Or, perhaps you want to do the hybrid of Bootcamp during the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend?

Whatever, here are the rules of Bootcamp Light:

1. Eat when you?re hungry - if you?re not hungry, don?t eat
In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you?re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don?t force yourself to eat. But don?t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs.
You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don?t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it ? this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more ? compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy
You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn?t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you?ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this ? but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
Even if you?re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product ? so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you?re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol
But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you?re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit
"Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please ? only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information ? these are the carb counts:

Rhubarb ? 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don?t forget you will need to sweeten this ? and not with sugar!)
Blackberries ? 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries ? 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries ? 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds
"Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs. Sainsbury?s sell little bags of roasted, salted Macadamias that work out at around 4g per bag.

Here are some carb counts ? BUT ? check the back of your packets as I don?t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:
Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners
The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us ? and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable ? occasionally ? to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

Good luck for the forthcoming week!

OP posts:
WillieWaggledagger · 19/10/2012 08:17

lol at 'i'm gladys friday'

captainmummy · 19/10/2012 08:22

Forgot to say - I've put my old jeans on today (dress-down friday, at least I am) and they are fab! No more sausage-like stuffing into them and rolling over the top - OK, well, a bit of rolling over the top but the legs are great, loose even!

Cathy - I'm retaining water at the mo, feeling a bit bloated around the middle, hoping it's TOTM (again). I do 6:1 fasting, but it's very difficult - i know i'm supposed to eat 500 cals, but not sure how many carbs I'm supposed to be on! All the low-cal stuff tendsto be high-ish carb, and i don't want to eat low-cal, it's disgusting and prob takes me out of ketosis .(?) I usually end up just fasting til about 3pm and then eating a normal low-carb dinner and salad snacks!

EwanHoozami · 19/10/2012 09:09

Grin at Gladys Friday - would be a great username

cathyandclaire I've been considering a bit of IF too. The bootcamp fortnight has made me need breakfast again so I'll wait until that feeling drops away again before I start.

So I've been norty and I feel down about it. Ate about half a slab of 70% choc last night for no other excuse than it tasted nice.

I even melted some with cream and made truffles, terrible woman that I am, so I can't even claim it was in cold blood Blush

Gah.

BigBroomstickBIWI · 19/10/2012 09:16

I've given up on the IF (although yesterday ended up missing breakfast anyway!). It was too much - I can't bear the idea of thinking about calories again, and it was starting to make me obsess over when I could eat/what I could eat, rather than focussing on enjoying the day/my life/my food!

I think, overall, I probably do need to look at portion sizes, though, to get myself to my goal weight a little bit quicker. I have noticed that whereas I tend to eat two eggs for breakfast, if I just have one, it is just as satisfying, for example.

I've had not too great a week, to be honest, so I'm not expecting to see good news on the scales on Monday. Just haven't really been able to focus on it, for some reason.

Still, DH is away until Sunday, so I've got today and Saturday where I only really have to think about me and DS2. DS2 is happy to eat whatever I put in front of him, and I can feed us separately, so I might have a couple of ultra low carb days. The only wine I have in the house is stuff I don't especially like (Shock - wine that I don't like!), so that should stop me giving into temptation this evening.

OP posts:
NewStartSameStory · 19/10/2012 10:05

Whereas today I shall be surrounded by temptations. I can't promise to be strong but I intend to try. Chocolate brownies be dammed.

B: large coffee, scrambled eggs, co-codamol x2

BigBroomstickBIWI · 19/10/2012 10:13

Thankfully most sweet stuff doesn't bother me. But a nice bottle of Sauvignon Blanc is another matter ... Blush

OP posts:
BigBroomstickBIWI · 19/10/2012 10:19

.... but in other news, my new size 10 black skinnies are now too big round the waist

Grin and Sad for the money I spent on them!

OP posts:
Jins · 19/10/2012 10:22

Yay BIWI. Grin

Nothing is ever too big round the waist for me. I have snake hips and a waist like a tree trunk. I have to be underweight to see a waist :(

NewStartSameStory · 19/10/2012 10:32

See this is where having to be teetotal for medical reasons is a bonus. Yay for skin jeans being too big.

Did I see an alternative pizza base recipie a while back?

Jins · 19/10/2012 10:34

I don't drink wine at all so I'm just stuck with carb free spirits.

I tell you - I'm a natural low carber Grin

Doshusallie · 19/10/2012 10:49

Morning. Thanks for all your good wishes girls, means alot.

I had a headache first thing and a terrible night's sleep - all the crap and disappointment going round and round in my head, and DS2 wet the bed at 3.30am.....

But have swum a mile, and have moved into "fuckit" phase.

the same breakfast I have every morning so won't bore you by telling you again. Grin

motherofluvlies · 19/10/2012 11:10

Ate a muffin :( cant face anything fatty or protein just want dry.

vnmum · 19/10/2012 11:16

Yay for the jeans BIWI.

It is TOTM for me and I seem to be retaining water. 1/2lb up on mondays weight. It could also be stress related as I am trying to sort my childcare out for when I start work and already have 2 possible nights to cover when DH is going to be late back so I'm not sleeping properly due to so many things whizzing through my head.

Took my DC into work yesterday and showed them around. They saw some inpatients so I could explain to them visually why I might have to stay at work some nights. They seemed to understand and last night at bed time DD said she wants to do the same job as me when she grows up Smile

Due to TOTM I am having a meh day food wise. I really want shit but have settled with some strawberries and cream. Much better than junk from the shop. I seem to have cycles of totm where some months I don't get any cravings etc and other months I do.

With regards to IF. I have fallen into a pattern of just not eating breakfast. This means that from when I eat tea at night to when I eat lunch, I am fasting for about 17 hours. I drink tea and water and this seems to be working for me. I am not excessively hungry and don't continually think about food.

I know have to work out how I am going to sort food out when I am on nights. We have a microwave, fridge and freezer. I won't know if I need to stay the night till about 7pm that day. The others have ready meals in the freezer so if they stay they are there ready but they haven't taken anything in specifically if they don't end up staying. The problem with that idea for me is the lack of suitable low carb ready meals, unless anyone can suggest some ideas?

WillieWaggledagger · 19/10/2012 11:19

oh dear motherofluvlies - are you not feeling well?

stay strong newstart - is this the first and last opportunity over your whole lifetime to try chocolate brownie? if not, no need for you to eat it

everything is always too big around the waist for me - i have a small waist and large hips so always get gaping at the back on trousers and skirts

WillieWaggledagger · 19/10/2012 11:21

can you make your own in tupperware for the freezer vnmum? start making an extra portion of your evening meal from now on?

AuntieMaggie · 19/10/2012 11:22

Maybe I'll be a size 10 one day...

On another note I'm wearing leggings today and both them and my knickers keep falling down!

Woke up still bloated but my weight is down.. no idea wtf is going on but I have a hospital weigh in on Tues and after I'm going to have a pint!

I'm craving pizza but only a slice rather than a whole one with salad. I know theirs a recipe for a sub pizza but its not the same as dominos!

SingingTunelessly · 19/10/2012 11:24

Dosh sorry to hear about work yesterday, sounds really crap.

Mothero, you ok?

BIWI, YAY to the jeans that's fantastic. Grin

Willie, are you better now? I had tonsillitis once many years ago and I remember how dreadful it was.

WillieWaggledagger · 19/10/2012 11:24

what a good idea to take your children in too to see what you will be doing

my parents were doctors - dad used to take all four of us children on ward rounds on saturdays or sundays, the patients loved it! (he was orthopaedics so many were feeling ok in themselves)

WillieWaggledagger · 19/10/2012 11:27

thanks singingtunelessly - much perkier and pity party over now!

vnmum · 19/10/2012 11:33

I have thought of the leftover idea willie. How long would they be safe in the freezer for? Just incase I don't need to stay for a while (fingers crossed Smile)

vnmum · 19/10/2012 11:34

Oh I've just listed my DC lunch box contents on the current lunch thread. I am just waiting to see what comments I get about either the lack of carbs or the fancyness/expense of it Grin

NewStartSameStory · 19/10/2012 11:41

it's not he brownies that is the problem as they aren't for consumption in the house its the pizza for tea that I shall be making. Which is a firm favourite which gets eaten rarely around here.

Am another one with small waist big hips. It is currently being made worse by this woe as I seem to have lost weight off my waist and not arse and thighs atm. I am hoping that this will balance out at some point.

motherofluvlies · 19/10/2012 11:51

Yup had a serious dose of the lurgy yesterday.it will pass just feeling a bit crappy.does make you think how do those poor critters feel that you see with dysentery lying not fit to move
on the tv in the third world

TheHumancatapult · 19/10/2012 12:14

Ok have a question ladies notice that amount of water being drunk varies how do you calculate how much you should be doing is there some fancy calculator

NewStartSameStory · 19/10/2012 12:32

There is a list on the spreadsheet but no idea how they figured out what goes in it.