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Bootcamp Week Seven - super slim, shapely and sylph-like!

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BIWItheBold · 28/05/2012 07:39

It is perhaps a good way to start the week by reminding you all of the rules. I'm sure you know them off by heart, and I'm sure you're all following them to the letter Wink:

Bootcamp Rules:

1.Eat three, proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn?t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3.Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat helps you to burn fat. Honestly! Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food ?
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

*5.Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited). It can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink

7.No alcohol
If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8.No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada.

9.No nuts/seeds
Whilst these are really good to snack on later - it can be too easy to start snacking on these - and before you know it, all your carbs have gone on nuts. Seriously - in bootcamp - don't do it to yourself.

10.No sugar or artificial sweeteners

Veggie Bootcamp Rules:

1.Eat three, proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn?t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural ingredients as the basis for your meals. Vegetarian Sausages and Burgers are ok in small quantities, but check the carb count as some can be very high. Avoid foods marketed as 'Low Carb' such as Atkins Daybreak Bars, etc.

3.Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat helps you to burn fat. Honestly! Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating plenty of vegetables and salads with your food ?
This is where most of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable.
But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

5.Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
It can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink

7.No alcohol
If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8.No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada.

9.Beware of Nuts and Seeds.
Nuts are a very good way to include more fat and protein in your diet, however some are very high carb (e.g. Cashews). Stick to small amounts of Almonds, Brazil Nuts, Dried Coconut, Walnuts, Seeds and Peanut Butter, but check the ingredients, many supermarket brands have sugar added.

10.No sugar or artificial sweeteners

And Bootcamp Light Rules:

  1. Eat three, proper meals a day
You must eat breakfast. It doesn?t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)
  1. Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs. You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don?t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.
  1. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat helps you to burn fat. Honestly! It will also keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!
  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it ? this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more ? compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

  1. You may eat some dairy
You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn?t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you?ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this ? but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
Even if you?re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product ? so flushing out the fat.
  1. You may drink some alcohol
But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you?re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

  1. You may eat some fruit
Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please ? only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information ? these are the carb counts:

Rhubarb ? 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don?t forget you will need to sweeten this ? and not with sugar!)
Blackberries ? 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries ? 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries ? 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

  1. You may eat some nuts/seeds
Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. Also, if you prefer salted nuts, it is very easy to eat too much salt via nuts/seeds. As an occasional snack they are great. As well as being bad for you, too much salt can result in fluid retention - which will mean a higher weight on the scales.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs. Sainsbury?s sell little bags of roasted, salted Macadamias that work out at around 4g per bag.

Here are some carb counts ? BUT ? check the back of your packets as I don?t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:

Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

  1. Avoid artificial sweeteners The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us ? and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable ? occasionally ? to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

And here is the list of allowed veg - remember - the aim is to eat mostly from those that are 3g carbs per 100g:

Veg (raw)Carbs per 100g
Mushrooms0.4
Watercress0.4
Spinach0.8
Celery0.9
Broccoli1.1
Asparagus 1.4
Cucumber1.5
Lettuce1.7
Fennel1.8
Courgettes1.8
Cauliflower1.9
Avocado flesh1.9
Turnip2
Pumpkin2.2
Runner beans2.3
Swede2.3
Celeriac2.3
Bean sprouts2.5
Carrots2.5
Green pepper2.6
Baby sweetcorn2.7
Aubergine2.8
Leeks2.9
Okra3
Tomato3.1
Mangetout3.3
Shallots3.3
Brussels sprouts3.5
French beans4.7
Cabbage5
Yellow pepper5.3
Carrots6
Orange or red pepper6.4
Ginger (peeled)7.2
Butternut squash7.5
Onions7.9

OP posts:
MNP · 01/06/2012 14:39

Way to go my heroine Teddy here's hoping I'll be posting similar in Dec.

MNP · 01/06/2012 14:40

Moonshine my boobs have gone done a half cup size so far.

moonshine · 01/06/2012 14:48

MNP - how much weight have you lost so far?

PostBellumBugsy · 01/06/2012 14:51

I doubt Nigella would mess with her boobs. Her Mum & sister died of breast cancer.
I think her boobs do look smaller - they were very ample indeed when she was at her largest.

mummyduff · 01/06/2012 14:52

Moonshine you are right that is weird perhaps it was lipo and not diet Hmm

I have gone down a whole cup size and a back size 2, its so unfair as mine were not hat big to start with!!

Went to get measured and am now a 32b, my 20 year old DD is biggerEnvy

moonshine · 01/06/2012 15:05

Now you have me googling Nigella's breasts (and I can confirm there is a lot of weird stuff out there about them!).

Hmm, am still not convinced they're that much smaller, but I have to say she does look fab [jealous face].

moonshine · 01/06/2012 15:08

Ooops, forgot there was an Envy emoticon already!

I lose weight much more easily on my boobs than my stomach or backside...

slowlyburningcalories · 01/06/2012 15:11

My boobs have suddenly in the past 2 weeks (after carb friendly holiday) returned to previous pre pregnancy sixe, I have been worrying that this meant my milk supply is affected as DD is still feeding but I shall instead go out an buy a new bra or two!

Ilovemyteddy · 01/06/2012 15:30

Moonshine - weightloss has been quite consistant - between 1 and 2 pounds a week after an initial 10 pounds in the first two weeks. I am being very focused though and have hardly cheated at all. The occasional diet coke, hardly any Wine only one MiM a week. But I do have a coffee most days - however I was drinking four or five cups a day before. And I try not to eat after 7pm.

My bra size has gone down a cupsize too.

vnmum · 01/06/2012 16:22

I am saving for a boob job (well maybe). after breastfeeding my 2 DC for 4 years then losing alot of weight my boobs are slightly worse for wear. It seems any weight loss goes from there first. I am same bra size as pre pregnancy but no where near as full and pert.

moonshine · 01/06/2012 16:22

That is very impressive Teddy - you must look and feel wonderful!

Maybe I should seriously cut down on my coffee/coke zero habits (but I don't think I could bear to cut caffeine completely out of my life).

I am somewhat dreading half-term - I have the week off work, ds wants to go to Pizza Express for his birthday (and me to cook his and my favourite choc cake) and dd wants to try dim sum. Plus I have unfettered access to the kitchen.....

mummyduff · 01/06/2012 17:49

moonshine I have also been googling Nigella Grin

NigellasGuest · 01/06/2012 17:51

I come back on here and find people discussing my chest - Grin

Time for a quick coffee before I pop out to collect DH from Waitrose - I did ask him to get more Hellmans FF mayo of course!

Ilovemyteddy · 01/06/2012 18:04

Grin NigellasGuest

Moonshine - I feel great, but still have 2.5stones to go so not looking too wonderful yet!!

PizzaExpress = lovely salad, minus the doughballs.

BettyBathroom · 01/06/2012 18:06

I've gone down about 2-3 cup sizes - which is fab because I still have ample 30DD's but they not look a lot neater, iykwim. I can wear lots of things I'd have previously had to leave on the hanger.

mummyduff · 01/06/2012 19:40

Grin at Nigellasguest

We may all need to start googling 'boob jobs' they way we are goingWink

Moanranger · 01/06/2012 21:36

I am hoping to register 3-4 lb loss tomorrow morning. This is end of first week & today, day 6 is the first that I haven't felt pretty hungry. Just hope lack of appetite really kicks in as it makes it a lot easier. A few glitches, but today I feel like it was getting easier to stick to.
Re posting my weight, as I am new, do I just find a blank line & add my name? Any guidance great fully received!

FiddleDeFat · 01/06/2012 22:28

Well done in getting through the first week Moanranger - it does get easier. Just post your starting weight and I'll add you to the spreadsheet. We weigh-in on Mondays, so you can update it with your new, improved weight then. Smile

slowlyburningcalories · 01/06/2012 22:36

Well after a hard week and the promise of no responsibilities until 10am tomorrow morning am slightlybworse for wear. I hav yet to finsih the shopping list fir DD and DH tomorrow morning. Sigh.

FiddleDeFat · 01/06/2012 22:39

Could be an interesting shopping list with your, hic, spelling mistakes!

slowlyburningcalories · 01/06/2012 22:40

Ty. That made me laugh. I am very very very tired and so it might be a case of buy whatever you want and I will make meals from it!

Moanranger · 01/06/2012 23:07

Fiddle de Fat, my start weight is 12st 4lbs, whatever that is in lbs, 172, I think

MNP · 01/06/2012 23:44

Moonshine have lost and regained and lost more so am at -8lbs so far, a looonnngggg way to go.

MNP · 01/06/2012 23:44

Moonshine have lost and regained and lost more so am at -8lbs so far, a looonnngggg way to go.

FiddleDeFat · 01/06/2012 23:48

That's you on the spreadsheet now Moanranger, ready for your update on Monday. There will be a new Weigh-in thread along Sun night/Mon morning to post your weight to as well if you wish.

While I'm looking at the spreadsheet can I ask a few others if they want to be added? Slowlyburningcalories, you seem to have dropped off and have been archived, but shall I add you again? Though I guess it depends on whether your DD and DH come back with loads of pasta or not tomorrow!

Also, JaxTeller, HairyMaclary, Manvsfood, jan2011, Scrablet and anyone else I've missed - any takers for the spreadsheet?

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