Paul McKenna would be so proud of us on THREAD 9...No Pain, NO PAIN!! The Non Diet for those who really want to lose weight. No calories, no syns, no humiliation, just shedding stones amongst friends.

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The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded support system:

1. Eat what you WANT
2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
3. Eat CONSCIOUSLY
4. STOP eating when you are satisfied and full

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches. So forget diets; they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. This is a new way of living for your brand new life!!

The Paul McKenna system works and is easy to maintain.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here are the book choices on AMAZON which is all you need to get started! they aren't compulsory, but they do help! it's something to refer to and listening to the cd's can really focus you.

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

Please feel free to join us, whether it's 10lbs or 10 stones you want to lose.
We are friendly, supportive and successful, but we're not hungry OH NO we're not!!! so come on in and start living your new life today!

Maybe things will fall into place a bit better when you've read the book and listened to the CD FB (that feels better). And maybe then you just won't fancy the biscuits or the cake. I'm sorry if I came in a bit strong there, but it's hard enough to get your head around a new way of eating without having someone trying to deliberately sabotage you at every step.

you weren't really that strong mardy I knew how it looked, but I just can't explain it any other way than how I did earlier. I think PMK is the best thing I can do for my lifestyle as I can still eat what I want (which will please DH as Im not denying myself anything) without having to be awkward like I would be if I cut out carbs for example. i think if anything, maybe DH is right and all these diets I and other people have tried just haven't worked so we've been denying ourselves the food we have wanted and craved (ie biscuits, chocolate, cake etc) to diet and then failing. I guess he just thinks whats the point in denying the food you want just to fail at dieting. With this plan I can still eat the things I want (which DH agrees with), but just to not eat that much.

I think that is the beauty of the PMK WOE. The fact of the matter is that you don't have to change what you eat. This is so liberating. The amount of planning and thought that has to go into diets is half of the reason why people fail. With our lives being so hectic these days, it's just a time consuming task. Eating what you want is the most satisfying part of this WOE, and yes, it may be chocolate cake or biscuits initially, but I doubt that will stay the same over time. In the book PMK talks about an experiment that was done with children around this issue - have a read and you will see what I mean.

For the first time in 2 weeks or so, I managed to follow the GR's all day. I am really pleased with myself. Fortuantely I only regained 3 lbs and so I am still half a stone lighter than when I started PMK. I am just glad that I am getting back on track before I had ruined all my good work.

Have a great day all

What is WOE? I thought it was a name of a poster, but I can't see who it could be

WOE way of eating hi everyone x

Great work Rosy, stick with it! I feel I'm doing pretty well again. Definitely eating slower and making conscious food choices. Listened to the cd again - I think I'm getting more benefit from listening early evening rather than bed time - and I didn't eat again after that :)
Howdy arfur! How are you?

HELLO EVERYONE!!!! [waves] Haven't read the back pages yet just popping in to say i''m back! and also on to PMK 'cos i went off a bit in England. Everyone's okay??

Hello everyone - hi pp!

I am having a really good Pauling day today, and the scales have crept just a little lower.

A good second day back on form yesterday. I will say that it has not been as hard to get back on track as I thought with the support of you all. The support makes all the difference.

hello all!!! i've just spent quite a while reading the back pages!!! Welcome to the newbies!!!. The weather in Blighty was weird I was wearing a winter coat when I arrived in Totnes then the next week realised I didn't have enough summer things with me (thank goodnesss for the charity shops!!).

I haven't been Pauling properly; too tired, i hate sleeping in 'new' beds, so though still in my 10s they're deffo tighter I sympathise with all the noise in yr. 'hood BBB Try sleeping in Soho!! it's non stop noise!! Also a very interesting post about people's self images (I remember DH actually looking sad to be small after loosing a LOT of weight on the Atkins) he somehow needs to be a larger person physically as well as the expansive type he is emotionally anyway IFYSWIM. shame 'cos his back his playing him up big time.

Hi PP - welcome back

Weather is very weird. I think you have gone home at the right time - it is definitely going down hill for the weekend!

I wouldn't mind the Soho noise I don't think - the hum of the city and all that. I live next to a school too so regular bursts of very loud children noises and that is fine. It was the crashing and banging that was annoying. And being blocked in my drive. . Funnily enough the scaffolding next door is coming down so more crashing today. I am off out though. I am escaping to the yarn shop for a bit of woolly therapy - better for me than chocolate!

Evening peeps

I've just had a really fun hour sorting out my clothes for holiday. For the first time in my adult life it was 'ooh that will look nice', rather than 'bloody hell what fits'. Which is uplifting and depressing all in one stroke.

The next date in the diary is my cousin's glam wedding in the Italian lakes at the beginning of September. I must look amazing, she is very slim and beautiful and I cannot let the side down.
I have 14 weeks - is 12lbs a reasonable aim? It would take me to 12 stone exactly. Which would be just amazing

Dont have much to say except that my book and CD have finally been marked as dispatched on ebay. I only bought them on Tuesday (I think it was) though to be fair it does say they will dispatch within 2 days of being paid, though most companies that Ive bought from through ebay dispatch that day or the next depending on what time its been ordered. Anyway its been sent so with it being an extra long bank holiday weekend I should recieve it by the end of next week I assume.

I have started to eat slower and not eaten as much so have started a little bit and the scales have gone down a bit too. Just need to get my teeth into it properly now.

Oh Ali, the Italian Lakes, how lovely. I'm very Which one?

12lbs in 14 weeks? Easy-peasy. Less than a lb a week. You are our big success (no pressure ) of course you can do it!

FB - I was a bit rubbish at eBay when I sold things - maybe they did what I did sent it out earlier than you think but not get round to marking it as sent. Anyway, there is every chance you'll get it by tomorrow. I would suggest you read it but don't bother discussing it with your DH at all. Just get on with it so he doesn't have a chance to form any opinion about it. He probably won't even notice until you are 2 stone lighter!

How did the interview go?

Ali I meant to say congrats on the further weight loss!! It's lovely when yr clothes are fitting again isn't it? I love the Italian lake Maggiore the one just after Mt. Gothard (memories of driving over it in a little tinny french car praying no one was coming on the wrong side of the road round the horrifying hair pin bends and i HATE heights AAAAH seeing the lights down in the valley looking like stars in the sky and then waking in a beautiful little hotel with the light of the lake reflected on the ceiling) Sorry to go on

Morning everyone Happy June the 1st

Howdy peeps!
I agree 12lb is totally doable. Personally I'd aim for 13, Tis luffly to see 11st something! been a while for me! Italian Lakes sounds fabulous :)
FB it's exciting that the book is on its way. I found it a real eye opener. When I re-read it this week it all clicked back into place.
I'm doing ok with it I think. Resisting temptation to weigh myself but not resisting anything else! It's nice to be able to enjoy ice creams in the summer without guilt. New realms of pleasure comes to light with Pauling.
Anyone heard from Kinky? Or are you lurking? Thinking of her/you either way.

Oh yes, 11st something would be fantastic, Ali!!

DH knows what Im about to embark on. He's not really said anything.

fartblossom without jumping into your relationship its difficult to know why your DH is being like that and what his motives are. You've told him a bit about this WOE so what about sitting down with him once a week and drawing up a rough plan of meals for week ahead? It can be very rough- like roast chicken sunday, Monday something with the leftovers , pasta wednesday etc and say you want lots of fruits and veg and salad to be incorporated into the meals. I know Paul says eat what you eat and its crucial you do but most people will find that after time (after they stop the diet mentality) their body will want an equilibrium, we don't really want to eat high fat, high GI products all the time . Plus a good intake of fruit and veg is crucial for good health .

FWIW when i go on holiday i eat exactly what i want to eat. I eat 3 normal sized meals and always have a mid afternoon treat, a luscious icecream from a gelato which has tons of flavours to choose from or a slice of patisserie. I do allow myself to get hungry between meals and being away from the biscuit barrel means thats not an issue . I stop when i'm full and really savour the food. Dammit when i'm in Paris i'll often have a croissant for breakfast. I never put on an ounce when i'm on holiday. I'm always amazed- how can this be? At home i seem to eat so much less and worry all the time about what i'm eating and end up putting on weight then needing to lose it again. Its all in the head. I can go hungry and wait for dinner when on holiday but at home its so hard, i turn to snacks (unhealthy ones) then pick at lunch or dinner, then snack some more and often don't eat anything that appealing- when i'm eating cake i feel guilty, when on holiday cake is a pleasure to be savoured. It does work and it is how we are meant to eat.

i was on here briefly before but work problems- redundancy threats - meant i had other things on my mind. Now hoping to try again and writing about how i eat on holiday with different emotional triggers and different habits has made me think of what is possible.

Hi blackcat - welcome back!

I think for me the other thing about holidays is that I am more active. I don't sit at a desk all day that must help but I am the same as you. I don't put any on whilst on holiday despite eating what I like. There just isn't the constant access to food if you are out on a beach or climbing up a hill somewhere.

Yes 11st something would be amazing, really amazing. It is so bloody long since I was there it is a bit frightening - 13 years maybe? Eek.

Ok you've all spurred me on - 13lbs it is.

ppeat - yes it is Maggiore! I am really excited. We went to Garda on our honeymoon, just briefly on our way to Venice and the whole area is just soooo beautiful. If DH and I win the lottery we are going to move there and buy a lovely villa and I shall swan about eating peaches and drinking wine in the sunshine

blackcat - good to see you back :) I think it is so interesting to realise that so much about eating is to do with mindset and thought process. Very enlightening!

Oh I went to Garda, just after I finished my finals - 23 years ago this week actually!!! .

3 of us had a 48 hour coach journey there, another 48 back again and 7 nights in a B&B all for £139. We felt very daring, buying a holiday out of the small ads in the paper (no internet) but it worked out OK and we just did a lot of sleeping and eating. 2 of us scrapped the cash together to go on a day trip to Venice. We had a great time and were nicely bronzed (as I'll ever be) for our graduation. Happy days.

DH and I were sort of planning on going there next year but it isn't looking likely now - damn this double dip recession

It would be nice to go back.... and be the weight I was 23 yrs ago too. I thought I was fat then as well. What did I know!

i've heard lake Garda is beautiful and also know someone who dreams of living there!
bigboobied youth is so wasted, not only was i convinced i was fat but that i was ugly :( i look back at photos of me and could weep at how i believed such things.

well yesterday was ok. Its always difficult the first day after a very bad one- for one i'm usually very very hungry. Today will be more of an even keel. I also have a very good incentive now to lose weight as i will be meeting someone i havent seen for years in September and want to feel good about myself.

black You're so right about self image I thought I was fat when I was a size 8 ffs!! though I always felt i needed make up to look good in photos i wonder why we were like that?

Ali it's going to be fine (she said soothingly) you'll get there easily I love that part of Italy but it's all a bit hot for me!

BBB you think 23 yrs was a long time ago meh! we've just celebrated our 37th anniversary!! hence our weekend staying at the groucho in Soho!!

Youth is wasted on the young ppeat. Or at least our younger selves. I expect in 20 years time I shall think I look better now that I currently think I look (disregarding the weight issue of course).

I am mildly comforted by your wedding anniversary too. I wasn't even grown up 37 yrs ago.