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Paul McKenna's non diet. No calories, no syns, no humiliation, just shedding stones amongst friends. Thread 7.

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GoresHairKnickers · 13/10/2011 00:14

The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded support system:

  1. Eat what you WANT
  2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
  3. Eat CONCIOUSLY
  4. STOP when you are satisfied and full

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches so forget diets, they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. The Paul McKenna system works and is easy to maintain.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here is the book on AMAZON which is all you need to get started!

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

Please feel free to join us. We are friendly, supportive and successful but we're not hungry!!! so come on in and start living your new life today!

OP posts:
KinkyDorito · 02/02/2012 08:30

Ali hugs. I know how you feel. I was the same. Sometimes stress gets the better of us. I was very conscious that I was overeating but did it anyway. I think it's because when I agreed to go back to work, DD had been doing okay. Now her counts have been low for 3 weeks. She has been put back on chemo so I suspect they will drop further. I doubt that she'll be managing school much until they pick up. So, I will go back to work and leave her here as long as she isn't ill in a way that needs me - dizzy, sick, etc. I know I'm going to be stressing out. I feel like the world will be judging me too. School will know when she's not in, and I bet people will question why I'm there and she's not... Gah. I'm probably overthinking everything and it will be okay. Last time I tried it was so hard though, and I don't know if she is in a better state now. Anyway, found myself shovelling pasta in like there was no tomorrow last night. Confused

Solo · 02/02/2012 14:48

Hugs to everyone.

LotsOfGoodFunThatIsFunny · 02/02/2012 16:39

Hi can I rejoin please?

I was Pauling last year and went from 11st 7lbs to 10st 3lbs but have since failed miserably and put back about 10lbs! Blush

I have been listening to the CD since Sunday and feel back in the zone again. I now just need to start shredding again and I will be well away :)

I am going to an engagement party in March and would like to be close to my losest weight again by then.

LotsOfGoodFunThatIsFunny · 02/02/2012 16:41

My lowest weight, don't know what losest means!

PhoenixFromTheFlames · 02/02/2012 19:42

Hello ladies Grin I've been weighed and measured!
I've lost.......9lb and 5 inches since January 3rd! It was so bad though, the girl who does the weight management programme at the gym...she was a bit disappointed I'm not following Her programme anymore. But to be fair, I love not measuring portions, obsessing over calories or feeling guilty when I eat something nice! So I pledge my allegiance to Paul Grin

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 02/02/2012 21:22

5 inches from your waist! That is amazing, and the weight as well - how chuffed are you? Grin

No luck for DH with that contract, so onward to the next. I need to develop nerves of steel or something here... Grin

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 02/02/2012 21:27

Sorry I'm on my phone and missed the other posts.

Is losest weight where your clothes are biggest? Grin

Kinky - I have nothing to complain about in comparison to you, really I don't. DH and I have the ability to resolve our little hiatus in income and so we're a lot more in control than you are.
Sod what anyone thinks, you are doing what you can for yourself and your family. I really admire your strength.

Right I feel a bit hungry but I know it is really thirst so I'm off to drink a couple of pints of water and then perhaps an early night.

PhoenixFromTheFlames · 02/02/2012 22:59

Just to clarify, 5 inches from all over :) DH is upset about the .5" from my bust!
Welcome back lots. The positives to.focus on are:1. You've done it before so you know you can do it! 2. You're here :)
Interesting, there's quite a few people on here having a rough time. You'd expect people to give up on healthy eating/body, but if anything it makes you more determined. Hope DH hears about some work soon Ali and that your daughter is well enough for school kinky.

HeyNonnyNo · 02/02/2012 23:06

Good evening all. Kinky, hugs to you and DD. Ali bad luck again, things will sort themselves out.
I have been absent from the thread because ds has quit sleeping and stupid phone keeps eating the posts I manage to write during feeds. The rage! But I've been following your successes.
Non posting does mean less focus on Mr mckenna. Plus never a moment to listen to the cd. Moan moan moan! That said, I'm keeping on my c25k runs and actually enjoying it! Apart from the fact its pitch black, no streetlights in the village and dog is a p.I.t.a... I've been musing on how much of this is will power and how much just sinks in through the hypnosis. For those of you doing well, how much will power do you feel you have to exert? I'm beating myself up for lack of will power.

Promise next post will be more cheery! Night night.

LotsOfGoodFunThatIsFunny · 03/02/2012 04:39

HeyNonnyNo I find that if I listen to the CD everyday I don't need any will power at all. I have a CD player next to my bed that I listen to as I'm going to sleep, I hardly ever get to the counting backwards part. Since listening to the CD I haven't snacked at all whereas before I was making angel delight and eating the lot in one go Blush

PhoenixFromTheFlames · 03/02/2012 07:01

I agree with lots. It shouldn't be about willpower. Even if I don't have chance to listen in the day I play it as I settle down for bed. I suppose the only time I've had to.focus was yesterday when I recognised I had emotional hunger. Had to distract myself! If you get a few minutes, have a look at the book. Paul says it's not about willpower, it's about retraining your brain.

3ismylot · 03/02/2012 07:31

Hi ladies
Wondering if I can tag along?
I have been following this way of eating since the start of january and have lost 19.5lbs so far Grin

I dont listen to the cds but I do follow the rules, I love it as I never feel guilty and I havent once felt the need to have a binge which was getting to be a daily thing for me before Blush

I have been posting on a weightloss forum and have just started getting grief from someone that I am starving myself and not eating healthily!! So I thought it might be nice to talk to like minded people who actualy understand how healthy this approach is Smile

PhoenixFromTheFlames · 03/02/2012 08:47

Hello 3 well done, that's a fantastic weight loss already! Ha, I bet the irony is your eating more often than before, just smaller portions and better choices. I've only been doing it since January too but am such an advocate of it. I've been on diets for years and love the irony that now I've stopped dieting I've dropped to the lowest weight I've been in 2.5 years, in a month!

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 03/02/2012 09:15

3 you are very welcome, and that is amazing loss, well done!

I agree about the willpower. When this is working well for me it isn't a matter of willpower. I don't sit there thinking 'ooh I would love to eat X but I mustn't'. I enjoy my food more and eating less of it just happens.
I've not listened to the CD since Sunday (no time) and I can feel myself sliding a bit so I have earmarked a slot in my day to listen to it later.

I have lost another 0.8lbs! And measurements are going down as well so there is some toning up going on.
It is 3 weeks until my brother's wedding, and my original goal was to have lost another 2lbs from where I am now. I think I can do that, and perhaps a bit more?

3ismylot · 03/02/2012 09:15

Thats the funny thing about it, for the first time in years I am actually feeling hungry for meals rather than just eating as its "lunchtime" I am also enjoying everything I am eating instead of just eating a plateful of something Im not really enjoying because Im SUPPOSED to lol
The woman in question is also pondering which diet to follow next and getting fed up as she hasnt really lost any weight recently oh the irony lol

I love this way of life now and can honestly see me doing it forever because there is nothing to it except listening to your body Smile

I still have a long way to go (about 6 stone Blush ) but I know I will get there and enjoy every mouthful along the way Grin

Sounds like you are doing fab too x

stripygiraffe · 03/02/2012 10:04

Good morning all.

I admit I am still struggling a bit. I know exactly why though. Not listening to the CD and not drinking enough water. I guess recognising the issue is a start though Smile

DH is studying for a v important exam which means I am doing everything by myself plus two DCs all do and I'm shattered. Onwards and upwards.

I've had plenty of water this morning and just done my first day of Shredding.

3ismylot · 03/02/2012 13:19

Thanks Ali and well done on the loss I think 2lbs in 3 weeks is very achievable x

Stripeygiraffe Hope things ease up on you soon x

Well I think I won the arguement on the other forum as she has withdrawn her posts lol, she was saying that I was only eating 800 cals a day but how she would be able to tell that from me writing
Breakfast
3/4 porridge sachet
Lunch
half a cheese and salad sandwich
Dinner
small portion of spaghetti carbonara

I will never know! What she failed to think about was that the porridge is made with full fat milk and topped with sugar, the cheese sandwich resembled a door stop and my idea of a small portion of spaghetti isnt actually that small as I grew up with plates piled high! She also doesnt get that on top of that I am drinking 5-6 cups of tea with whole milk and sugar and a couple of mugs of hot choc or that I am cooking with full fat butter/oil etc

I certainly dont think my body is in any danger of starving anyway lol

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 03/02/2012 13:39

3 I wouldn't worry about it. If you have only ever done a traditional 'diet' and are used to obsessing over what you are eating, what is 'allowed' and what isn't, restricting both what you eat and how much, then PMK must sound too good to be true!
I know that with both Slimming World and WW there is an emphasis on having to eat certain things or a certain amount each day - regardless of whether you are hungry or not. So actively overriding your body not wanting as much food which just seems insane. And of course all low low fat so that you are never satisfied and your food tastes of nothing...

I listened to the CD earlier, and then I've just shredded. Having DH around with no job is useful in some ways!!

HeyNonnyNo · 03/02/2012 19:40

Thanks to you all for a much needed boost to the willpower! Erm, bit embarrassing but dh has other ideas about what to do while falling asleep....In my current sleep deprived milk machine mode I rarely agree, but I'd feel rude not at least falling asleep in his arms whispering affectionate sweet nothings! I will keep trying to find a moment to listen when nobody can bug me. Hmm
How do you do to 3 and stripy I will join you in strugglers corner.

LotsOfGoodFunThatIsFunny · 03/02/2012 20:00

I can only manage listening to the CD when I go to sleep as I am single, if I had a partner I'm not sure when I could fit it in!

What exercise does everybody do? I am going to start shredding again and I am going to start doing long walks but will only manage that once a month because of the DC. First walk is this Sunday, it is 5 miles and supposedly takes 3 hours. I would love to start ice skating once a week and swimming but it's difficult to find the time!

Ali u have done amazingly well congratulations!

BigBoobiedBertha · 03/02/2012 21:06

Hi ladies,

Interesting what you were saying about willpower because I read an article on it the other day in my psychology mag. Apparently willpower is chemical process and related to blood sugar levels so the lower they are the less able the brain is to make difficult choices - it takes the easy route which for a dieter is to eat and ditch the diet. It made sense of Pauling because that doesn't require willpower because you can eat what you want and also explains why WW etc work but stop working when you stop doing the diet - if you follow the diet (as Ali says they tell you what to eat) then no willpower needed but of course as soon as you finish the diet and stop following their plan willpower is needed and you still have to deal with the effects of low blood sugar which they have no coping strategy for and the weight goes back on.

It also gave an interesting insight into why parole boards release more people just after meals rather than just before which perhaps Solo might have experience of.Grin

Basically don't try to make hard choices when your blood sugar is low because your brain will not be able to manage it. Will power is a limited resource!

Did you know too that when women are pre-menstral they need more calories than other times of the month?! I didn't - explains the carbs cravings you get just before a period though. Well I do anyway! Blush

Not having the best of times here. I am a bit like Stripy - I have spent all January taking up the slack as DH is extremely busy (accountant facing 31st Jan tax return deadline for 200 odd people who are all like me and want to leave even thinking about it until the last possible moment). Anyway, the dreaded January deadline has passed and normal service should be resumed but now DH's father has been taken to hospital, nobody knows what is wrong with him yet except they suspect he has had some sort of stroke-like bleed in his neck and has been transferred to a hospital 60 miles away from their home. They live in N Wales so 270mls from us and MIL wants DH to go up this weekend which of course he is going to do but he doesn't get to have any respite from the mad panic that is January and I am still taking up all the slack. We are going up there anyway for half term so I think one DH's brothers should go especially as one of them is put out because MIL said he shouldn't go because it is too far for him but of course DH feels he should go, just in case. I'm making excuses I know but Pauling is not really the focus of my day at the moment. Blush

Glad the rest of you are doing better.Smile

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 03/02/2012 21:32

HeyNonny - I just plug my earphones in, give DH a kiss and then lie down and listen. Grin Not every day, but if I've struggled for time and can't fit it in another time.
He is extremely supportive, and is losing weight too by virtue of me being in charge of the food that comes into the house mostly!

BBB - sorry about your FIL :( I don't envy your DH that drive, not fun.

HeyNonnyNo · 03/02/2012 23:19

Right, ali, you have a point, dh has a vested interest in a slimmer me, so I will attempt to negotiate an extended snuggle truce!
not gone well here tonight. I did the breadmaking course at river cottage in the Autumn, and since then have been able to make the best pizza in the south east, officially. I ate too much

:( but I didn't half enjoy it!

Solo · 04/02/2012 00:48

Hello :) a mixed bag of good and not so good here...I think I'm with the not so good myself, but that will change.

Welcome 3 and well done already!!

Commiserations to those in the struggle with other things at the mo...

Will catch up with you all soon.

stripygiraffe · 04/02/2012 07:51

Morning guys and welcome to my buddies in the struggle corner Wink. I think we should be really proud that we are still here. I believe in this so much - I just need to get all my ducks in a row do to speak.

I am eating well at meals (prob too much at dinner - must go back to leaving a bit) buys its the late afternoon snacks that have got me. I want them but I'm not hungry. I will try tapping today.

Anyway I drank more water yesterday, listened to the trance and did day 1 of shredding. I thought the Shred was hard at the time but I recovered quickly. This morning though!? I ACHE all over.