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Starting a low carb diet - anyone interested in going for it with me?!

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RatherBeOnThePiste · 02/09/2011 08:56

I did this very successfully indeed for about 6 weeks in the run up to the summer break. I have been trying to lose weight for a while and was doing OK but then reached a plateau which was when I decided to try something new. And I easily lost a stone doing this.

It was hard in the beginning, for about the first week, then I sort of settled in to it and it just became how it was. And I like the rules of it, because you just can't cheat on it. But it was sometimes hard juggling what the family were going to eat.

I have been cutting down since Tuesday, but will be going for it completely on Monday 5th. I want to lose a stone. Is anyone interested??!!!

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BecauseImWorthIt · 26/09/2011 22:29

If you're getting cramp I think you need more potassium - avocado is a good source, I believe. And use Lo Salt in your food instead of normal salt.

Custy - the carb count I have came from this site

deliciousdevilwoman · 26/09/2011 22:36

I am on Day 17 of Pig to Twig, and am soooo fucked off it's untrue! I had my first stab at it in May, just before my holiday and lost 9lbs in 11 days. I was good for the first 2-3 days on holiday and then caved.

Fast forward to now. I lost 8.5lbs in the first 10 days, but over the last week, I have either stayed the same, or gained 2lbs when I have weighed myself-which has been about 3 times. Last time was this morn-I was 2lbs up.

I don't understand. I am in Ketosis +++/++++, am drinking lots of water, meticulously logging everything I eat on myfitnesspal (I am confident I am staying within 20-25gs max of net carbs per day) and to boot, I have been doing the 30 Day Shred, and/or Clare Nasir's Bootcamp everyday.

Please, someone enlighten me as to what's likely going wrong. I am trying to stay positive, but I need to see the numbers going down on the scales to keep my momentum up. This "plateau" has lasted for 7 days now (wails!)

BecauseImWorthIt · 26/09/2011 22:42

Are you eating a lot of dairy? Some people find that impedes weight loss.

Also - what about artificial sweeteners?

Why not post your last few days' worth of meals/drinks/snacks, and see if we can identify anything to help?

Oh, and how much do you have to lose?

Also, you should know that it seems quite common for weight loss to stop in weeks 3, 4 and/or 5 - especially given that you lost a substantial amount in the first two weeks.

deliciousdevilwoman · 26/09/2011 22:58

BecauseImworthit-thanks for your response.

I have 2.5 stones to lose.

Don't use any artificial sweetners at all.

I am eating a lot of eggs-at least 2 every day. A moderate amount of cheese-not huge hunks though. Not lots of cream or mayo etc, though. I have two cups of coffee a day and at first had a splash of semi skimmed milk in them (about 2-3 carbs a pop) This didn't impede weight loss in the first 10 days, but I have switched to unsweetened soya milk, just in case (can't face the thought of double cream in my coffee!)

I will try and post my last few days food.

Spamspamspam · 26/09/2011 23:15

delicious, nothing is going wrong you have lost a HUGE amount of weight in what 17 days? Not even three weeks and you have lost 8.5 lbs already.

However as previously mentioned water is essential, you should not be +++/++++ on the ketostix so try and up your water if you can, not drinking enough water can slow weight loss. Are you having caffeinated coffee? If yes try and switch to decaff.

Re- 30 day shred, it is quite common for people to go up in weight when they first start the shred. Have you tried actually measuring yourself, I bet you will have lost inches. If you look at the thread 2 stone to lose there is quite a bit in there about muscles holding onto water creating a seemingly increase in weight with people switching up the phases in the shred.

Also have you read the pig to twig forum, there is a great thread on there about how the scales can lie and you are actually losing fat but it might not be showing on the scales. It is very common on this diet to have "plateaus" and suddenly the weight just falls off a week or two later. They say that the fat cells lose their fat stores but stay the same shape for a while and fill up with water because your body isn't quite sure you mean for the fat to go, eventually when the fat cells do realise it releases that water and you "lose weight" when you really had lost fat a lot earlier.

I had a 3-4 week plateau earlier on in the diet I just could not get away from 79Kg and then suddenly it just disappeared.

Another thing is that even now I can be 3lbs heavier one day than a few days previously a lot of this is down to water retention I am sure.

DON'T GIVE UP - it works

BecauseImWorthIt · 26/09/2011 23:19

No need to worry about the eggs, from everything I have read about low carbing!

spam's post is very true - if you're drinking enough water then you shouldn't be showing that amount of ++ on your ketostix.

BecauseImWorthIt · 26/09/2011 23:29

I've copied this from the low carb forum that I use, www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/ :

The weight loss has stopped what am I doing wrong?

Everyone experiences a slowing down or stopping of weight loss at some point in their diet. Listed below are a few things that may help you understand why and what you can do to get moving again.

Water.
Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be

Weight-----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

Citric acid.
Citric acid, a common ingredient in diet drinks, can stall weight loss for some lowcarbers. If you are sensitive to this ingredient it can slow you down.

Caffeine.
Many lowcarbers drink caffeine and still lose weight. You may want to wean yourself off caffeine to see if it helps. In Atkins' book, The New Diet Revolution, it says that you aren't allowed caffeine because it triggers an insulin response, but that information has since been found to be incorrect. The insulin response that Atkins saw in his patients was more likely due to citric acid. Do keep in mind that one cup of coffee can have roughly .6g of carbs, so make sure to add those into your daily carb allowance.

Dairy
Dairy can be a problem for some people. If you experience slow or stalled weight loss try reducing or eliminating dairy, especially cheese. Some have found better results by cutting all dairy. Although cheese is allowed on lowcarb plans it does seem to effect weight loss if consumed in high quantities.

Nitrites
Nitrites - found in processed meats like hot dogs and bacon can cause problems for some, you may want to monitor their effect.

Alcohol
This is an area that seems to vary a great deal between individuals. While it is true that many alcohol products contain few carbs, alcohol itself is a fuel source. The body will choose to burn alcohol before any other source of fuel. However, many people have reported that they are able to consume moderate amounts of alcohol while on low-carb without having any problems. As most people are already aware, alcohol has a depressant effect which lowers inhibitions, including those that could stop you from overeating and making poor food choices.

Menstrual Cycle
Many women find that their progress is affected by their menstrual cycle. After a few months, you will have an idea of how your cycle affects weight loss, and you will be able to take it into account when measuring your losses. People have noted the following interactions between low carb eating and the menstrual cycle in women include: heightened carb cravings in the second half of the cycle, ketosis levels dropping or disappearing altogether, differences in the amount and severity of cramps, changes in the heaviness and timing of the cycle. Additionally it has been noted that a low-carb diet is very helpful to women with PCOS.

Protein
Although getting adequate protein is of vital importance on a low-carb plan, taking in too much protein can also be a problem. You will need enough dietary protein to avoid any muscle loss and to produce some necessary glucose. Protein is converted to glucose at a rate of roughly 58%. Therefore, too much protein can produce too much glucose. If you are having problems with staying in ketosis (or getting into ketosis), you may need to track your intake of protein and then make adjustments. It is highly recommended that you don't restrict your intake of protein in the initial adaptation stage of starting a low-carb plan.

Glycerine
One of the recurring issues of stalls and labelling discrepancies regards many of the low-carb protein bars currently on the market. While the true carb count of the bars is low, most of these bars contain glycerine. Although glycerine is not a carb, it can be metabolised like a carb by some individuals. Additionally, it can cause muscle cells to hold water, hence its use by some athletes.

Prescribed Medicines
There are a number of medicines that can interfere with weight loss, the worst offenders are the psychotropic drugs; phenothiazines, tranquillisers, anti-depressants, etc. The next are hormones such as oestrogen, prednisolone and other steroids. Many anti-arthritic drugs especially NSAIDS, diuretics and to a lesser degree other cardiovascular medications. You cannot stop these medications! Atkins suggests that you can gradually replace the drug with diet and suitable supplements. Do not stop medications without consulting your Doctor!!!

Hormonal Balance
A significant percentage of people, who have difficulty losing weight, have an under-active thyroid. The typical symptoms are; mental and physical slowness, lethargy, memory loss, heavy periods, a hoarse voice, increased weight and intolerance of the cold. The eyes may become swollen, the skin dry, and the hair ?lifeless?. Constipation is also common. You can ask your doctor for a thyroid function test if you think you may have this condition.

RatherBeOnThePiste · 27/09/2011 07:12

Hey thanks BIWI for taking the time posting that - really useful reading. I've certainly upped the water, what spam says is true. And I did think I should be aspiring to the max level of ++++ on the ketostix. But someone said a hint of pink was as good.

There are always plateaus. And YES they piss you off, but they are part of the process. What you mustn't do is give up. So stay on here DDW. Lots of very good and professional low carbers' support. I am learning all the time!

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RatherBeOnThePiste · 27/09/2011 07:16

So I need potassium. Funnily enough I didn't get cramp last night. Does anyone here take vitamin/mineral supplements? I always used to when losing weight - like multibionta probioticmultivitamins. I might start again. I cannt imagine for example that I'm getting much Vit C

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Tortington · 27/09/2011 07:46

1/2lb off this morning - i was expecting more. i;m not having swede again

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ChitChattingWithKids · 27/09/2011 12:11

Hi everyone, can I join you? I've been eating low carb since last Wednesday. So far I've lost 7.5 lb. But I had been eating REALLY badly just before I started so part of the loss is probably just a reduction in bloating.

I've just tried to make some low carb chocolate zucchini (courgette) bread in muffin cases which count out to 2 g per muffin. Wanted a snack - watching my boys eating muffins is getting on my nerves a bit!!!

I've had a look at your blog, custardo - some great recipes that I'm looking forward to trying.

ChitChattingWithKids · 27/09/2011 12:17

If you're trying to work out the carb content of swedes, etc, make sure you pay attention to where the website is based. Apparently American websites count all the carbs, then you have to subtract the fibre to then work out net carbs. In the UK the Carb content is already net carbs. Maybe that's what's happening???

RatherBeOnThePiste · 27/09/2011 15:11

welcome to you ChitChattingWithKids - you will find the support on here is brilliant.

Well I'm overexcited now because it has all come together - I am child free and can come to the Christmas Meet - all paid and everything. Fab.

So extra incentive!! BIWI I see you on the list and obv Custardo, is there anyone else on here?! I shall be very good now for sure, but come the day there will be no low carbing for me. Oh no. I want proper booze!

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deliciousdevilwoman · 27/09/2011 15:45

Thanks Spam and BIWI. I am 2lbs down this morn so feeling a bit more positive. I am going to stop weighing so frequently-as the fluctuations frustrate....lets see if I can stick to once per week! I can't face switching to de-caff coffee-but only have two cups a day. I am now having Soya milk in it. I will try and reduce dairy consumption and up the water (although I am already drinking a lot) and see if that gets things moving. Some good suggestions, guys. I hadn't considered the 30day shred, might make the scales go up temporarily. With regards to measurements, I took them just before I started, but wanted to wait til I was a month into low carbing and exercising before re-taking....I do look slightly thinner though. I will try and keep my momentum up. I expected a stall/plateau at some point, but I didn't think it would be after just 10 days.

BecauseImWorthIt · 27/09/2011 16:44

Try thinking of it not as 'after 10 days' but 'after 8.5lbs'. You lost a lot of weight in a short space of time - that's 17 packs of butter!

Daily weighing is probably not a good idea unless you can cope with the days when the scales will show a gain - which they will, as we experience normal bodily fluctuations.

RnB · 27/09/2011 17:35

I think I'll be at the Christmas meet up too Smile

I haven't weighed myself for the whole time I've been low carbing which will be 14 days tomorrow. I usually weigh myself everyday when on a diet but it always ends in me gaining those couple of unexplained pounds and getting upset. Am dying to know what I've lost but also scared - if it's less than 4lbs I'll be REALLY disappointed. Will weigh myself tomorrow Confused

Tortington · 27/09/2011 18:12

mabs was looking for a third to shre the room - might have gone now - hurry and book only 17 places left woohoo

Tortington · 27/09/2011 18:15

thanks for that kotinka

i think i ate 10 carbs worth to be fair Grin was just grumpy this morning

today i had tuna and are you all aware helmans do flavoured mayo? so i had tuna and chili mayo for dinner

and just had curried chicken for tea

RnB · 27/09/2011 18:59

Have just text Mabs about the room.

Am going to get some of that mayo!

RatherBeOnThePiste · 27/09/2011 19:06

Me and Knotty are sharing at Christmas but need to get our collective arses into gear Grin I know there are links and info on the thread.

Have done well today on the nosh front, and I am also going to get some of that mayo,which sounds like it will be a real asset.

What surprised me is that innocuous iceberg lettuce is fairly high in carbs. I mean, who'd have thought it?!

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RnB · 27/09/2011 19:29

All booked for Xmas meet - whoop whoop. Holy crap - really need to lose weight now!

RatherBeOnThePiste · 27/09/2011 19:30

I did the list for you - I just saw... Yes added incentive for us low carbers then!

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RnB · 27/09/2011 19:41

Ah thanks Piste!

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