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A space to talk openly about weight loss journeys and challenges. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Anyone want to join a thread about Eating Less.

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bumblingbovine · 17/05/2011 13:35

I read this book by Gillian Riley a while ago and it made so much sense. She has a website here
www.eatingless.com

I may even go to a seminar but I think the book has most of whast you need in it. There is a chapter free on the website to get an idea of the tone

She talks about stopping overeating and says that focussing on weight is completely counterproductive. I really would like to try this but thought it would be useful to have some support.

I have been thinking about this for a while but issues with my ds have got in the way. The other thread on fat/overeating has reminded me

I will need to dig the book out agin but the key thing she talks about is setting some realistic limits on the what, the amount and when you will eat and then sticking to them.

The idea is to "stop overeating" not to "lose weight". In fact you can stop overeating much more easily than you can lose weight and it happens quicker.

So my food plan would be to

Eat 3 balanced meals a day (one portion only - no seconds)every day. This would be
Breakfast between 7am and 9am
Lunch between 12pm and 2pm
Dinner between 6pm and 8pm

To have a maximum of 1 snack a day which should be of a reasonable size and reasonably healthy

Dessert if eaten should be fruit or yoghurt during the week but can be something less healthy at the weekend for dessert if I want it

Success would be sticking to the food plan each day. Weight would not come into it.
everybody's foodplan would be different to suit them

We could check in every few days (or daily) with how we have done or if we are having trouble with cravings and wanting to eat more.

Does anyone want to try this?

OP posts:
MarianH · 13/07/2011 13:04

Hi Malory Smile. So much of what you have written is true for me. The GL stuff especially - I was losing weight like a dream on it, but one day of bread/sugar and I was out of control for longer than a month! Once I've actually read the book I will be of more use... I just wanted to say hello!

Italiangreyhound · 13/07/2011 23:18

MaloryMad welcome, lovely to meet you. I'm sorry you have been on a roller coaster of weight gain and loss, I really hope you will find some help here.

Any more lovely lurkers???

MarianH · 14/07/2011 08:19

I've weighed myself and I've lost a couple of pounds. That shows me that I can eat what I like, but as long as I am sensible my body will sort itself out. I am still going to get rid of my scales though, but I wanted to read the book first.

No longer going away this weekend, so that will remove temptation. The only problem is I am at hospital all day today with DD. This is a difficult place to make good food choices as it revolves around junk food.

MaloryMad · 14/07/2011 10:10

Hi Marian and Italiangreyhound, thanks for the welcome.
Marian, it's nice to know someone else knows what I'm feeling!

Italiangreyhound · 14/07/2011 22:18

I have stopped weighing myself! I resisted the temptation to wear loose fitting trousers today! I wore a tight fitting dress for my brunch today so that I would not eat too much.

Eating going OK, rather a piggy morning of cheese and things but not so bad overall.

erebus · 15/07/2011 07:53

I didn't weigh myself today either- but maybe because I fear what I might discover. I'd do an 'embarrassed' emoticon here but DH's all new, all singing, all dancing PC won't let me!

I am having a GA as day case this afternoon so I can't eat from now til after that - I do wonder what the food choice will be afterwards??! It is a private hospital through some NHS/private contract thing so I hope it won't just be junk!

Anyway, not weighing today might inspire me to have to rely on my mindfulness to tell me if I'm losing any weight next week!

MarianH · 15/07/2011 08:02

erebus I had an op in a Nufffield (NHS contract) and it was lovely in there! Unfortunately, I had three wisdom teeth removed so all I could have afterwards was tomato soup. But it was nice soup! Grin

I didn't do too badly yesterday in the hospital. I bought a pasta salad on the way there, and then waited until I got home in the evening for tea. I did have a couple of lattes in the hospital Costa though, and spent a small fortune on magazines. Hopefully, DD will be out okay by this evening so we won't have a prolonged visit this time. However, doctor said yesterday that it is very likely she'll need transfusions over this bit of treatment, so we may well be back in before her next scheduled appointment in a week. It is a very long, dry and boring day in there. When I got in, I definitely wanted to overeat! I didn't, and I was pleased that my book had finally turned up, so had a bath and started to read that instead.

I hope everyone else is okay Smile.

Erebus · 16/07/2011 09:32

It's really hard remaining mindful in out-of-the-ordinary situations, isn't it?!

Glad your book finally came- you waited long enough!

Well, yesterday went fine at the Nuffield! Luckily it was just for a scope (of a TMI nature...). I went in at 12.30 and was home at 6pm having had a nice fish goujon 'snack' with tartare and salad garnish at 4.45pm after fasting since 7.30am. And whilst I am an NHS 'believer' I have to say the Private experience is nice! I had my 2 DCs in a private hospital in Oz and my mouth still gapes in amazement at some of the public hospital stories mums tell on here of the mayhem of an NHS (or Oz state) maternity ward! No single rooms and ensuites there Grin, but the biggest issue would be the noise! I mean, one's own newborn keeps one awake enough without 5 other babies crying for attention all night.

Anyway, I concede I weighed myself- cos I had to for the anaesthetic! And thankfully for my morale I am the least I've been for a couple of years, at 11st 10lbs.

A thing I have noticed for the better- and I'm not good at assessing my own body size- my belly overhang has gone. I mean, I still have a fat tummy but I don't have that crease under it any more. This is a nice, tangible sign that I'm on track. I am also finding that my jeans 'annoy' me. They are Per Una, size 18 with a bit of lycra, ie my usual but the reality is, they are too big for me now. They flap around my lower torso and I am, despite being on the smallest belt hole, constantly pulling them up! I also found when sitting up in bed this morning drinking tea (thanks, DH) that my thighs don't seem quite as thunderous as previously.

Whilst one isn't supposed to 'do' GR for the weight-loss, I can't help but think the moral boost, the 'feel-good' of a more comfortable body helps, doesn't it? It surely is a boost to one's self esteem, feeling the result of being more in control of what you put in your mouth.

Incidentally, I was chatting to a work-colleague on Thursday who is about my height and age but is rather more 'round' than me- she told me she weighed 14 stone which I am a bit surprised about as she is 'solid' rather than flabby, though we do wear 'theatre scrubs' at work so it wouldn't be obvious. She was telling me how, in the week prior to her period, she cannot stop eating. She says it's as if her ability to resist placing food in her mouth is completely overwhelmed by a desire to eat- somehow the food end up in her mouth. She gave up chocolate for Easter just to prove to herself she wasn't addicted. Anyway, she is aware I've lost some weight and was, as is usual, asking me how so I've directed her to GR. It will be interesting to see if she finds it helpful.

Meanwhile, all the youngster in the staff room, many who have no need whatsoever to lose weight (though some do!) were doing that 'compare how extreme my diet and exercise regime is to yours'- we had cabbage soup, that Commando Training thing, Dukan, WW, all sorts. It did occur to me to wonder which of them might end up being a casualty, the ones with proper weight-issues, just getting into their weight loss/weight gain life-long yoyo thing.

Final observation- then I'll shut up! DS2 had his swim gala a week or so ago. I was surprised at how many of the 60 DCs there, in a very leafy, middle class area, were overweight. I'd always said that maybe 1 or 2 in DS's class might be but in bathers, I recognise that possibly 6 were- 10%! And of them, 2 were what you'd call obese, poor kids. A lifetime of self-hate and ridicule ahead.

MarianH · 16/07/2011 10:14

Hi Erebus. I'm pleased your op went okay. It sounds like things have really worked for you in terms of gaining control of your eating. I'm too early to judge whether the principles of GR will help me (I'm getting through the book between beast-wrangling my very energetic 2yr old DS), but I know that diets don't work. The best evidence I have of that is all of the people I see from my bygone SW days. I was a big loser (5st), and knew many other big losers. I've seen all of them recently, and all are larger again. Also, my old WW leader from my very first diet is bigger again. There is obviously much more to it then low fat, low cal. I think GR talks much sense and I hope her methods will prove sustainable for me. I have to keep telling myself it's not the weight that matters. I also feel quite liberated by being reminded that I can choose my food freely.

Erebus · 16/07/2011 19:23

Hi Marian-

Well, it'd be fair to say I feel I have been 'lucky' in not gaining weight. I sort of feel that I don't 'deserve' to still be on track seeing as the reality is I don't feel I've been as mindful as I should have been! Ridiculously it's dangerous territory for me: the idea that I can 'relax' yet still lose weight.

I am SO of the opinion that 'diets don't work', though. I feel the only way is to regain control of the 'whys' not the 'whats'.

How are things for you? Are you finding a path through the maniac Western Way of Eating?

Best wishes to all as always!

MaloryMad · 16/07/2011 20:29

Hi everyone!
Things are going quite well. There's a lot in the book, but right now I'm concentrating on the Times and Plans,to get some sort of order in my eating, and dealing with the urge to overeat when it comes. I've had a couple of good days.
I found out I may be going on a cruise in January. First instinct normally when a holiday is mentioned is that panic feeling of 'I must go on a diet'. This time I haven't done that.

erebus I agree that for me 'diets don't work' - which is why I haven'tallowed myself to get panicky about my weight.

MarianH · 16/07/2011 22:01

Hi Malory, I'm glad it's going well so far. Hi to Erebus too, and anyone else around.

I'm having a stressful evening and battling the urge to pick - I really feel the hunger, though I know I'm fine. DD's temp keeps hovering at possible hospital admission levels, and the drains have become blocked (we had drive paved this week). Emergency plumber is currently emptying my toilet. Woo. Am trying so hard not to crack the biscuits.

I can choose to eat them if I want, but I don't really want them...

Perhaps we will go to hospital anyway, just to get a flushing loo!

I have controlled my eating well this week, on the whole. I have had the odd treat of 'feed my addiction' food, but I have not binge eaten the huge amounts I usually get through. I feel progress is being made, even though the drains are trying to thwart me.

MarianH · 17/07/2011 08:06

Well, they have to dig my new drive up again to fix crushed pipe. I had to bring DD out of the house as it's an infection risk and she is in the middle of intensive chemo at the moment. Cue midnight flit to my mum's, over an hour away. My mum's house is the house of FOOD. It is everywhere. And I am stressed. Gah.

IvaNighSpare · 17/07/2011 18:03

just a quickie, found an intriguing set of podcasts which, on first glance, seem to embrace a similar philosophy to GR. Will check them out and report back.
InsideOut Weight Loss

mymumdom · 17/07/2011 21:41

Hi, I hope it's okay to butt in and post my story on here...

I gave up dieting almost 4 years ago and have been trying to follow the principles of Intuitive Eating ever since ( Basically eat when you are hungry, stop when you are full). I got into IE through Beyond Chocolate, but have read the Gillian Riley stuff too, A little scary!!
I've had a lot of success psychologically- accepting and living with my size, not dependant on scales, not hating my body etc,etc but I continued to binge quite badly. I would think about eating something and suddenly I'd have to have it.
But I've got a few health problems that my weight doesn't help, joint problems mainly and although I know I can't ever diet again, know my body would be happier carrying a little less weight. I know that if I could only eat less, I would naturally drop some weight, so when I saw a few bloggers talking about www.thinkingslimmer.com I thought it was worth a go.
I've found the slim pod has helped me not binge, in fact over the last 4 weeks, I've been able to just leave food if I'm not actually hungry. I can also tell when I am full, and just don't want to eat any more. I've also noticed I want to eat healthier food and exercise more.
We had a kids B'day party here today, and I was a little hungry and had a little nibble here and there, but it was nowhere near the scoff fest I would normally have.
I don't weigh myself but my clothes are now much looser on me. I've gone from a large size 24 to size 22 looking a bit ridiculous, so am still huge but pretty confident I will be able to continue saying NO to food I'm not hungry for.

Italiangreyhound · 18/07/2011 02:36

mymumdom welcome and very good to hear your story.

I am very tired so off to bed and will read up on all you exploits later, I am off for a work thing and back in a few days time.

Hope all is well for all of you.

MarianH · 18/07/2011 22:19

Hello all! Thank you for links to interesting sites/podcasts. I'm now back at home as plumbing emergency is fixed, but now DD needs a blood transfusion. I'm going to have at least 10 hours in hospital tomorrow. I will not be able to be a boredom eater as I'm taking 2 year old DS too, so will be running around after him all day. It will prove to be very tiring!

I managed to control my eating at my Mum's. I haven't eaten totally healthy food, but I have planned my portions and stuck to them. I am feeling rather pleased with myself at the moment Grin. It was a visit to their house that through me into my last month long binge cycle, but I've got through it this time. I'm just sorry we had to rush back so we can go to hospital. I'm also sorry for DD as she hates the drag of going into clinic for the day, and she's due a full day on Thursday too. At least she isn't an in-patient again.

I hope everyone else is managing okay.

MarianH · 18/07/2011 22:20

threw

IvaNighSpare · 19/07/2011 08:22

Hello all. And welcome mumdom.
MarianH, hope all went well with you in this stressful time.
And greetings to all you lovely folks out there.

Think I'm slowly getting back on track again now. It's scarey looking back just how easy it is to allow myself to get sidetracked. We've had a series of daily powercuts here and I've found myself with the 'perfect excuse' to eat whatever is in the freezer (as it needs to be used up), and that's often the junk food - oven chips, pizzas, sausages etc. Or we've been getting takeaways because we can't use the cooker. How convenient Blush
I'm also shamefaced to admit that, because there was an extra week's 'grace' until my next weigh-in with the dietitian (couldn't get an appointment in two weeks, had to make it three), I've slackened off on the behaviour and now find myself mentally shifting to 'panic mode', with only one week till my next appt and I "need to make up for lost time". It's what I call my old 'slimming world mentality', living from one weigh-in to the next, mentally calculating how much I can 'get away with' and focusing way too much on those 30 seconds on the scales. I need to break this unhealthy thinking, and the only way I avoided it before was going into total denial and putting all the weight back on. Need to work on a new approach and re-read my GR books.
I'e started listening to the podcasts I linked to, and so far they seem to be making a lot of sense and embracing a similar philosophy to GR. I find the woman's voice very soothing and encouraging which helps. Am only on podcast 3 so far so will keep you updated. The only thing is that I listen to these at bedtime and find myself drifting off to sleep as I'm so tired, so I don't know how much is consciously going in.
What I like about these podcasts is they are FREE, I looked at your Slimpod mumdom but my inner cynic baulks at paying (ironic really as I didn't get GR's book or CD for free Hmm) but maybe that's my own issue.

Well that's plenty to be going on for now. Looking forward to hearing everybody else's progress. Have a good day.

MarianH · 20/07/2011 07:25

Iva it's hard to break old patterns. I keep finding myself on the scales, and I suspect, even though I'm trying hard, this is still mainly about appearance! However, I do feel much more controlled in my eating.

I haven't made completely clean choices in terms of the food I've picked - but then I know I can follow an ultra-healthy diet if I choose to. It won't last and I will inevitably end up eating a load of junk. I'm actually pleased that I've managed to eat things like pizza and a rather wonderful danish pastry over the last few days, but kept control of portions and avoided using them as a trigger to start eating loads more rubbish. This is the first time in my life I think I've managed this. I've always been a diet perfectionist. This hasn't served me well.

I hope everyone else is doing well. There's not much action on here at the moment!

MarianH · 22/07/2011 09:07

Just popping in to dust the cobwebs off this thread!

MarianH · 22/07/2011 09:07

Seriously, I hope everyone is okay.

IvaNighSpare · 22/07/2011 17:19

I'm still here, not much to report though.
Still really enjoying the podcasts.
Hope everyone's ok.

Italiangreyhound · 24/07/2011 21:00

IvaNighSpare, Marian, Malory, Erebus, Steeltowngirl and Winedog. How are you all? I do hope you are all doing well.

Did I miss anyone?

Seeing dietician again tomorrow but have decided to avoid weigh in (I am seeing her for IBS not weight so can easily decline the weigh in). Did anyone read Overcoming Overeating? I tried to scan read it today - Overcoming Overeating: Conquer Your Obsession With Food: Conquer Your Obsession with Food Forever by Jane Hirschmann & Carol Munter - not sure it had much to add for me. It seemed to touch on how overeating was dealing with emotions etc but did not tell me how to deal with those emotions!

www.amazon.co.uk/Overcoming-Overeating-Conquer-Obsession-Forever/dp/009182561X

I have still not managed to read GW! I will take her on holiday and try and read her there!

Anyone else recommend anything really helpful!

winedog · 25/07/2011 00:48

Hello all, on holidays thus no posts lately. Can someone post where you find those free podcasts -too lazy to look back at all the thread Grin