2011 Paul McKenna part two - our final diet

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Welcome etc. blah blah. :)

I ended up having a piece of chocolate brioche, which wasnt what i wanted, but i was hungry and really didnt fancy tinned spag bol!!

Woken up this morning feeling not very good, not entirely sure why, nothing physical, just a bad emotional day, but im only working a half day so hopefully i wont have time to do emotional eating!
just having one of those days where i dislike my lifestyle of never being able to go out of an evening because DH always works, and as much as my mum would babysit, we wouldnt be back till 1,2am and i cant do that to my mum....ugh having one of those days where i dont feel like a person, i feel like a wife and a mother...and an employee!

KT - I don't blame you for not wanting to eat tinned spag bol. Sounds foul! I am finding I can make the same quantities of family meals and then stick the amount I am no longer eating into the freezer for emergencies. Would that work?

Poor you not being able to go out - it is really easy to feel drudgy, isn't it? If your Mum is still offering when you say you won't be back til 1am I would take her up on it. She can always snooze on the sofa. Am I right in thinking your kids are quite young? This phase will pass and everything will get easier, honest. At least you're young and still have your youthful energy

WMMC - now I am really scared of you!

And if anyone should see AnyFuleKno, let her know that it will last

bloomingnora - don't be scared but perhaps you should join in? it might make you feel more positive if you feel the physical power of your body? :) Aikido does not require strength at all, or actually fitness to start with, but it does get the endorphins going and get you very fit, quite quickly. You will get bruised now and then but not actually hurt.

Fecking cat will not stop bloody yowling He can see the digger outside my house and is getting very antsy because he can't go out yet.

I just had a cinnamon and raisin bagel for breakfast which was delicious. And about six pints of decaf coffee.

wmmc "one should withdraw from a friend who has fallen out of favour slowly to prevent offence" - love it :)

pinkcupcakefairy "'I must eat all the bad things today & then be really good tomorrow' which would inevitably lead to being bad the next day & the next ad infinitum" - oh that's me exactly. I'm loving the fact that I don't have to eat the entire cake or whatever 'while I still can'. I can just say 'mm, I'll have a bit of that later when I'm hungry.'

'if I eat this, it won't be there to tempt me tomorrow' - I used to say this. But it's absolutely fucking barking isn't it?

I wonder what other mad stuff we think on a day to day basis which has no basis in logic or fact but is just conditioned responses.

Hello all....
wondered if I could join you??!!!!!
its taken me ages to read your fantastic thread, you all seem like a fab bunch! and are doing so well on the PMK!
im on day 3, having downloaded the iphone app, im a 'serial' dieter, have been all my life, and have tried it all from WW, SW, cabbage!! cambridge.. etc etc... and while I did well on them, I always put the weight back on!! nightmare...
so.... after looking around I decided to do what I should have done YEARS ago, and applied the basics of eating food! I have some very skinny friends and family, and have always noticed how sloooowly they eat and how they always seem to leave some! whereas ive always been a 'woof it down' kinda gal! thinking about it now, it hardly touched thee sides, let alone be tasted!
so... day 3, and im eating whatever I fancy (slowly!), when im hungry, and stopping before I feel too full... and ive found im eating far less than when i was on a 'diet' and I have a real sense of liberation from the diet cage ive been in all my life! wierd eh!
I hope you dont mind me jumping in on here...!!! im a mum of 3 teenagers, and work in a school, so lifes busy... but i get time in free periods to hop on here and catch up!

Welcome harleychick. I'm a PMK newbie too - day 6 for me .

Hi harleychick - it's amazing how little you actually need to eat, isn't it?

So much of what has been said is so insightful - you lot are great!

I went to a 'Boost' session at the children's centre with DS3 today and they were talking about children's eating habits and a few of things they recommended really made me smile:

1. Change the language from Good/Bad/Treat food to Everyday/Someday food because no food is bad, it all has some nutritional value and making food 'forbidden' has negative psychological effects. Basically, as long as you get the proportions right then nothing is off limits.

2. Never make a child clean their plate. Allow them to determine when they are full and understand that someday's they will eat a lot, others less but this is fine because they are being guided internally by their own nutritional needs.

They were also talking about eating habits, making sure the TV is off, sitting down and enjoying the meal rather than unconsciously stuffing food down. It was like a PM seminar for toddlers (sans the swearing, obviously).

Welcome harleychick day three is great - you'd have been about at the 'horribly depressed and hungry' stage of your diet round about now - yes?

It's great to have you here. You sound like you have good role models around you too (brilliant!)

Well I'm discovering I have muscles in places I didn't know I existed today! So off to take some ibuprofen I think.

thanks for the welcome :o
true enough I would have been starving and wobbly on any other 'diet' by day 3!!
the new thinking about kids meals is interesting!
I must admit I brought my kids up the same as I was, to eat whats on the plate... I guess it stems back from was my grandparents war time mentality, and it just got passed down the generations... good to know that mentality is stopping now though!

My kids eat bugger all at mealtimes most of the time. I don't really mind actually - they are a decent weight. They do eat, just only when they get hungry.

I just had a diet coke with my lunch (at the end of it, actually) and now I feel bloated. Argh! I was feeling full (not stuffed) with lunch but the diet coke sent me over the edge into bloatedness - all those bubbles. Again, argh. Such an icky feeling.

I took a baseline weight today at the gym and realised I need to lose 2.5 stone just to get out of the overweight category.

Was quite depressing even though I know it could be worse. But I am definitely the heaviest I have ever been.

Now. How to get some feeling of hope back .

Welcome newbies. Sorry I have bummed out the thread a bit.

blinder, sorry if I've not been following correctly but have you actually put on weight on PMK or lost no weight on it? Are you following the basic 4 principles to the letter or doing the best you can. I don't mean to be accusing just honestly interested...

blinder - have just remembered you said you had never weighed yourself - this is the first time. Don't feel too down - 2.5 stone to get to normal weight category is great and totally achievable. Keep at it - you're learning great eating habits on PMK.

Blinder come off it - two and a half stone means eating consciously for about four months. You can do that can't you? I assume you were not in the gym to eat cake - exercise will help you - also I really hope you didn't weigh after exercise as this can increase your weight. But look, it's just a number. If you have a lot of weight to lose does it really matter if you take six months or a year? You will be thin for the rest of your life when you are done won't you? :)

Hi new people! Lovely that more people are coming around to this as it is such a positive thing to be doing. We will take over the world

WMMC - I'd love to do a martial art but can't commit to a regular class for anything (although the slot that has been freed up by slimming world might do!). I am running when I get any spare time and cycling to work two days a week which is lovely. I am definitely a person that loves those endorphins! I am off to google aikido classes in my area... I used to do taerobics (imagine kind of boxercise aerobics) which was run by a super fit ex-karate international guy and was amazing but the class doesn't exist any more got me fitter quicker than anything else ever.

Had a good day eating vvvvveeerrrryyyyy sssslllooowwwlllyyy but ate a biscuit at work that I didn't want or need. But hey ho, doesn't matter! Cause it really doesn't, y'know?

wmmc - just had a look at your pics and your cat is beautiful (maybe not in the wee hours tho)as is your 'shed' and house - feel slightly dissatisfied with my life now

Read yesterday that it takes 21 days to form a habit from deliberate behaviour so that means (seminar gals) that we are halfway to all this becoming habit hurrah! In the meantime DH commented yesterday on the amount of puddings in our fridge, I said yeah, er, about that - well I keep buying them and not actually eating them. Its working I tell ya - that voodoo paul mckenna magic!

Welcome harleychick! Have been thinking a lot about the old slimming world days and one thing in particular sticks in my mind the whole food/drink diary. I remember them saying well if you go for a night out you can save up your sins and use them on drink! Now Im not ignorant to the fact that alcohol can contain a lot of calories but now I look back its seems MENTAL! I want to go back to sw and say do you know what it wasnt the odd glass of wine making me fat you loon it was eating crap constantly throughout the day like entire packets of biscuits and cakes in one sitting then eating my meals with my family so they didnt realise what I was doing. Seems so so stupid now I am a little bit ashamed of being so easily led Cant tell you all how relieved I am to put that nonsense behind me FOR GOOD.

arfur, I know EXACTLY what you mean. I desperately want to go to my old SW class and stand on a chair and say "release yourselves from the shackles of this insanity! Join Paul and be free!"

............or something

Perhaps we should infiltrate SW and all stand up at their meetings and say 'STOP, CEASE AND DESIST THIS NONSENSE. REJOICE IN FOOD PEOPLE DON'T SCOFF AND REGRET!'

Actually I do have a friend (male) who came to Weightwatchers with me for six weeks specifically to meet women - he didn't follow the plan at all, he just turned up, having lost up to a pound a week (the first week was hard for him, he took all the change he could muster in his pockets and was weighed in steel toecapped boots.

He couldn't help outing himself after a while though. He couldn't believe intelligent women were recording eat slice of toast with reverence and feeling guilty about it.

Did he meet anybody there WMMC?

Blinder - I'm going to do my first weigh in a couple of days and I'm dreading it as although I've lost some already, I'm sure I'm deluded about how much I actually do weigh. I keep thinking about the quote in PM's book by the guy who ran loads of consecutive marathons and he says something like 'I can't conceive of running a thousand miles as that is bonkers, I just thought about running 1 mile a thousand times'. So I'm going to think about my weight loss like that. Whatever the number is, all I need to do is lose 1 pound, over and over. Easy!

Thank you BsshBossh and WMMC. I know it doesn't seem like much. But I've never been able to lose that much before. I realise how irrational that is.

Onward!

I am really enjoying eating without guilt. I haven't done WW or SW out of sheer laziness and lack of willpower but I have eaten guiltily all my life it seems. That may be the biggest change for me so far. As long as I eat it slowly, I'm allowed to feel good about it. And I do!

Alwaysbe yes I completely agree. My first goal is to lose 7lbs by 1st April. That seems doable but you're right. One pound is e a s y.

oh crikey.
it's happening again.
went for a bike ride yesterday evening, forgot to take food and bonked (hypo) after 15 miles, with another 5 to go to get home. DH picked me up.
Have been ravenous ever since.
Well and truly eating ALL the time today.
Admittedly was hungry, but anything i ate after lunch was not done consciously at all. Have eaten chocs, crisps, all sorts of crap (marzipan ffs!)
This is where i went wrong last summer.
Have had LOADS of energy for last couple of weeks however and loving exercise.

Am i right in thinking that i might be overdoing the exercise which is forcing me into the ravenous/faint of the hunger scale, then i'm bouncing into practically bingeing in response?

Do i limit my exercise so i don't get so hungry?