2011 Paul McKenna part two - our final diet

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Welcome etc. blah blah. :)

"That whole deprivation promoting greed thing. Hope that makes sense."

Made perfect sense, thanks arfur .

"Still nowhere near as much as I would have eaten in the bad old days so am taking it as a win!"

Exactly! Much better than binging and also I bet you weren't as hungry at night/this morning?

In fact, this morning I didn't wake up hungry so had breakfast later than usual, at my desk at work. So perhaps that extra scoop of ice cream kept me going all night .

Seriously, I think there is truth in that. If my DH or other slim friends "overeat" at a meal they tend to listen (unconciously) to their bodies and naturally eat less later on.

It all balances out in the end.

Anyway, guilt and deprivation don't work for me which is why this PMK/Intuitive Eating philosophy resonates so much with me.

I just ate some spaghetti bolognaise in a lovely little cafe bit was a huuuuge portion so I actually ate less than half of it.

The cafe owner came over and offered to give me my money back as I clearly hadn't enjoyed it. I assured him I had really enjoyed it but was full. He came over twice more and refused to believe me.

Cripes.

Just had a white choc cookie too. I agree about the sweet after savoury thing. I feel totally satisfied. Hoorah!

Had scrambled egg on toast today for lunch (bssBossh) your right 1st time I've eaten today as haven't felt hungry till lunchtime! Still only ate the egg and about half a slice of toast - altho still had a nagging sweet craving so had ONE chocolate from a box my friend bought me yesterday (still only the 2nd one I've eaten) and feel better! Like blinder says properly satisfied. In the interests of science and my fellow man I shall conduct more research into this sweet craving idea

Hello all - not much to report other than I've put a photo of Ziggy the rescue bengal cat on my profile. He's sitting above my head on a high shelf (it's the ceiling beams you can see in black and white above him ).

Am off to a two hour aikido class tonight (eeek). Hope I can still walk tomorrow.

I like the sweet after savoury idea. Will keep an eye on that.

WMMC - Your cat is lovely. I am not a cat person but I like a nice bengal, they're so beautiful. Enjoy the aikido. Bet you feel amazing afterwards.

Re the sweet after savoury - I often have a hot choc after supper (I really like the options ones, I know they're apparently disgusting but I don't like any other hot choc ) and it is really satisfying. I can't remember having one and then eating anything else that day.

Franch - the second I am full I am up and clearing the table. I have trained DH to take my plate away from me if we are out so I don't pick at stuff when I know I have finished. He just puts it in front of him and then he ends up eating it. Maybe next time think "ok, I can have some poppadums in ten minutes if I am still hungry. If I'm not, I'll have them tomorrow" . I found it helped to make a meal of those trigger foods on occassion - really savour and enjoy them.

Today has been loads better for me. the sleep made so much difference and the glorious sunshine is helping too. Early night again tonight as going out tomorrow. Might go for a run first. Supper is already made and in the slow cooker, DS2 is asleep, DS1 on DH's PS3 and DD is at her swimming lesson. All is well with the world!

BsshBossh Junk food does taste disgusting when eaten slowly. Actually white bread is the worst for me, it's like eating wallpaper paste and has this plasticky aroma when you really chew it which is v irksome.

Tis school disco tonight so after I've dumped dropped off kids am planning a leisurely stroll round Waitrose to buy stuff I REALLY want, Paul would be so proud ....

:)

bloomingnora - knackered is how I normally feel afterwards actually. And then sore the next day. But long term I might feel better. Need to do something to shake things up I think. Even thinking about getting a job

Baby steps though, an exercise class is a good start.

Hi everyone, wow so much to catch up on.

Ktwiltshire I?m having the same problem with slight hunger & just full, I find it really difficult to tell the difference. I have been having a glass of water if I think I'm hungry, then waiting 20 mins to see if I still think I'm hungry. If I still think I could be hungry I've been eating a small amount to see how I feel. With feeling full I've been eating til I think I'm full then having an extra mouthful or 2 to see if this makes me feel a bit blah or not & taking note of how I feel to try & identify 'full'. Once I can tell full I can work on pleasantly satisfied.

Bloomingnora those recipes look fab, I may have to add them to my list to cook. Sorry about your DH, I hope he's feeling better now.

WMMC, had a sneaky peek at your pics, ziggy is gorgeous as are you & your DC.

I have to say I am very jealous of all of you who went to the seminar, it sounds like it has been a real help & has really focussed your thinking.

I have had a couple of blah days but am doing soo much better than I would have when 'on a diet'. I love there being no forbidden foods and knowing I can have whatever I want has made me want less. I think before my mindset was 'I must eat all the bad things today & then be really good tomorrow' which would inevitably lead to being bad the next day & the next ad infinitum. Knowing I can have what I want when I want it (only when hungry of course means I eat less overall.

My biggest downfall the last couple of days has been baking, I'm making cupcakes for a friends birthday at the weekend & have been asked to bake a cake for a neighbours birthday on friday so have been trying out recipes. Have made & tested lemon meringue cupcakes, strawberry & white chocolate cheesecake cupcakes, and a chocolate cake. Although have been much better at not eating loads just because its there.

I can't do direct messages from the mobile version of mumset pinkcupcake but maybe someone will message you to 'lend' you copies of the extra CDs we got at the seminar...

My PMK book and CD finally arrived. Now I can read it after 5 days of following his principles as cribbed from these threads and via Google .

today was good, made cake with DD2 and DD1 brought a friend home from school, tried to take DD2 to the opticians, but got my days wrong and thats tomorrow!!!

Tonight is tricky, other than cake, there isnt much in the house to eat, and certainly nothing that inspires me....and DH is out working, so im kind of stuck!!!

waves hi blinder >cheeky!

What are you eating then KT?

Ooh could someone 'lend' me the cd's?

Have had an odd day, am tired and have missed some of my thyroxine as ran out so have felt v drab. Was all proud of myself for not eating the whole pizza I cooked for dinner, then found myself shoving pate on crackers with butter into my gob not unthinking but sort of thining 'Oh I know I'm eating from tiredness/for comfort but oh well never mind I don't care'. I am such a liar to myself sometimes!

God pink those cakes sound delish

Blinder, thanks for the thought. Having read that everyone got them I went on ebay & got a set for £10, a bargin I thought. Its only a 4CD set though, I think its the cravings one missing but I'm doing ok with that at the mo, definitely need the exercise one though

Ursula I'm happy to copy & post the CDs I've got to you if you want to message me your address. The cakes were fab, a mishmash of recipes & my own additions. I think they'll go down well at the party. I can post recipe links if anyone wants them.

pssst it's me anyfule, you ain't seen me roight

just popping on to see how you're all doing. I'm still going strong and I feel great. I want to do this forever.

WMMC you are a fab motivator, love your input on this thread.

I feel like I've lost weight but I don't know yet if I have. I will weigh myself on friday and see. Even if I haven't, I am feeling physically better and more energetic. I rmember saying to Nikki1978 on the day that I felt groggy all the time. Well that is much improved now.

Hope it lasts, please let it last

Wotcha anyfule! Nice to hear from you.

Pinkcupcake the seminar was great but it's effects have lessened for me this week. And the tapping guy almost scuppered the whole thong for me. It's the CDs and the journal especially that are helping me most. Don't feel like you're at a disadvantage.

Thing not thong. I haven't worn a thong since I was 23.

Ooh thanks Pink, the one about emotional eating I think it is, that will be great for me I think. And you could whack one of those cakes in there too if you like?

I could paypal you the postage?

blinder - I have never worn a thong in my life. By the time they came into fashion I was not thong-sized iykwim.

Ursula - I've PM'd you re possible CD solution.

Morning all (esp. anyfulekno about time you turned up )

Well I have had four hours sleep thanks to Ziggy, and the DC (one sick, one insomniac and one who actually tried to get into my PJs last night (the cat) because he was cold)

And I hurt quite a bit from last night which was fab btw - nothing like being the only woman in the class and chucking lots of six footers around to boost your ego - not least because I didn't have a gi (suit) to wear so I looked to all intents and purposes like an absolute beginner (and felt it too) but it did come back quite quickly. Hurrah. So I signed up for the month. Came back quite euphoric. But very late - class doesn't finish till 10 and it's half an hour away so didn't get to bed till 11:30 and was up at five - with lots of nocturnal interruptions.

DH is working in London today so I have the joy of the children by myself. And Thames Water are digging outside my door. Yet more joy

I'm finding I only need to listen to the CDs every other day now. I know the next stone will take a bit longer and that's okay, it's been part of me for many years, one should withdraw from a friend who has fallen out of favour slowly to prevent offence But it'll go, I know it will. I'm going to be 125 by the time I go on holiday at the start of June 2011.

Hope everyone has a marvellous day. :)