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2011 Paul McKenna part two - our final diet

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whomovedmychocolate · 16/02/2011 21:17

Welcome etc. blah blah. :)

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blinder · 01/03/2011 12:39

My St David's gift to you: bara brith

Soak 12oz dried fruit in hot strong tea.
In another bowl mix 6oz light brown sugar, 10oz self raising flour and an egg.
Mix both bowls together and pour into a lined loaf tin.

It's fat free but that's not why I love it. As they say in Barry, it's LUSH.

Use any fruit you like. My fave is date and walnut but works just as well with sultanas.

blinder · 01/03/2011 12:40

Solo are you depriving yourself? Are you eating what you want?

blinder · 01/03/2011 12:45

Ooh re the bara brith the fruit should just be covered by the tea.
And you bake it in a low oven for about an hour. A knife should come out dry from the middle.

Two quite important bits of the recipe there. I'll never be a Nigella.

BsshBossh · 01/03/2011 12:46

Oh my goodness, I've just eaten half a choc bar (a Crunchie) and not wanted the other half so have wrapped it up and put it away for later. I have never done this in my life. But I am full.

Lunch was cream cheese and cucumber wholemeal sandwich (2 slices - in the past it would have been 4 slices) and half a Crunchie.

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whomovedmychocolate · 01/03/2011 13:07

missmakesstuff - seriously - Ziggy is a rehome from the Blue Cross and unhappy cats are sometimes better off being rehomed if they are really not happy. :(

But no thank you, went through enough strife getting this one thank you very much! :)

Why are we all talking about food all of a sudden? I have ironing to do :(

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solo · 01/03/2011 13:30

Blinder, I'm eating what I want assuming it's in the house iyswim? I just had home made carrot soup and a slice of bread, then finished Dd's tomato soup Angry which I don't usually do...I am currently having hot flushes and last night felt very PMT ish and therefore hungry!!! ate carrot soup, cornflakes, drank water...:(

BsshBossh · 01/03/2011 14:07

solo could you accept you're gonna eat less well during these PMT-ish days and then eat less when you're feeling better?

Easier said than done for us overweight people, I know, but I'm really becoming more observant of how slimmer people eat now:

I know slim friends of mine (including my DH) who, if they overeat one day just eat less the next - actually they don't even think about it. One of my friends accepts she'll eat more during her period, but then automatically (and without stress or even consciousness) eats less afterwards. Just balances out. I've noticed this with my DH - he rarely overeats and had no problem saying no to something if he doesn't feel like it/isn't hungry but if we're out and he fancies a big fry up or curry or something then he'll do it and not feel like eating much the next day. No wonder he doesn't have a weight problem.

blinder · 01/03/2011 15:07

Solo it sounds hormonal yes but if you're feeling resentful or fed up of it maybe it feels like a sacrifice or hard work?

This may be shit awful advice but eat some crap if you fancy it. Carrot soup is lovely and so are cornflakes but are they inspiring you?

When I'm hormonal I usually yearn for carbs. As BsshBossh says, maybe accepting that these days are going to be a bit different is the way to go.

blinder · 01/03/2011 15:08

And when I say 'crap' I obviously mean the things from the top of the food pyramid, not the things from the bottom of the food chain iyswim.

blinder · 01/03/2011 15:28

Let's get out of the diet mentality people! I'm eating the skin off a roast chicken tonight! With full fat hummus, tiger bread and olives! Who's with me!?

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whomovedmychocolate · 01/03/2011 15:37

Thank you blinder, that was what I would have said had I not been ironing :)

Really, honestly you are not following the golden rules unless you are eating when you are hungry, only eating what you really want (not what you think you should want) eating consciously and stopping when you are full. There are no bad foods.

I'm having gammon, roast potatoes, carrots, cauliflower and peas for dinner tonight as it happens blinder.

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bloomingnora · 01/03/2011 15:44

I am struggling with the rules today. I am feeling really ill and miserable. DH is moping around with concussion following a bizarre accident on saturday and DS2 is full of cold again.

Bollocks Sad

blinder · 01/03/2011 16:37

Sad bloomingnora sounds like an awful day. What happened to your DH?

(WMMC Smile thanks)

bloomingnora · 01/03/2011 16:49

He has a dropped foot (his ankle doesn't fiunction properly and he can't pull his foot up properly when he walks) due to a previous back condition and he tripped up the kerb on Saturday coming back from watching the rugby (not pissed, I promise!). He managed to hit his head on something and ended up going to hospital and having the bit by his eyebrow glued back together. He has had a headache since then and is a bit green about the gills. Doc says nothing to worry about though... He is possibly getting into the malingering a tiny bit now.... I am worried about how much worse his foot has got because this was early warning of really bad issues before Sad

Eating seems to be slowing now. Am going to have a cup of tea and try to calm down....

blinder · 01/03/2011 17:36

No wonder you're having a bad day with the rules!

I hope your fears about your DH are unfounded bloomingnora. I wonder if he has a bit of concussion. Surely the hospital would have told you that though.

bloomingnora · 01/03/2011 18:32

They said they didn't think he was concussed but looking at the symptoms he definitely is although not badly. He is irritable and has memory loss and headache and nausea and dizziness but not all at the same time today sso hopefully he is getting better!

I am aiming to go to bed before 8pm to fight these blues....

ktwiltshire · 01/03/2011 20:06

i dont have 'diet' food in the house, but i do have cucumber, tomatos, carrots etc to snack on with full fat humous...yum yum yum, hate the low fat stuff, love proper humous!!

DH is out working tonight so i had chopped tomatos, ham and grated cheese on toast, was delicious and i feel pleasantly full, ate all of it, but i think i feel pleasantly full, getting there i think.
work was full of cake today, so i took my time and at it consciously, admittedly i ate it at my desk whilst doing work, but it was pretty mindless work and i made sure i really ate slowly and enjoyed the cake!

UrsulaBuffay · 01/03/2011 21:33

Ooh that is worrying Nora

I have realised that hungry isn't always the same feeling for me - when I am not up to much it is a stomach feeling where I definitely know 'I.am.hungry', but when I'm at work and busy it is more that I get a bit grouchy and wobbly and that low blood sugar shakey thing. If I think 'am I hungry?' in that situation I often think 'no, my stomach is fine' but I feel a bit lightheaded and wobbledy.

Odd!

JuicyOlive · 01/03/2011 23:28

I left LOADS of CHIPS on my plate tonight - the nice little pomme frites from M&S - my fav chips.

But I did overeat a bit on pitta and hummous last night - but really didn't feel comfortable with the feeling.

Still queen of the deli - bought some lovely stuffed olives today and had them with smoked salmon blinis and creme fraiche for lunch (how decadent is that???). But I found the blinis a bit doughy for slow eating so mainly ate salmon, salad and olives. Know what you mean about full fat hummous kt - have you tried that delicious authentic stuff from Sainsbo's with the little chick peas in it (can't remember the brand name but I could pull the tub out of the recycling bin if needed!)?

DS's birthday later this week - choc cake test coming up.

Haven't really done my diary as back in the thick of it after half term break. I find MN better than the diary - it's kind of like dumping my thoughts every so often rather than feeling constrained by a feeling of having to record progress at set times.

I'm definitely recognising when I'm hungry better than before. And I'm LESS AFRAID of getting hungry. I used to "stock up" in case food wouldn't be available and (horror of horrors) I might feel a little hunger pang! I'm still struggling a little with recognising the "full" feeling but I'm getting it right most of the time.

How are the newbies getting on?

Hope all's OK for you nora...

bloomingnora · 02/03/2011 08:09

He's much better today, thanks. Hopefully the referral won't be too long.

I was in bed with paul by 9pm and feel much better today. Can't believe how much tiredness affects my mental state.

Decadent lunches are good, Olive. And KT that ham and toms etc sounds lovely. I think I am going to let DH know that I might not be eating with them much for a while and just give yself a chancer to really eat what I want, when I want. I will sit with them at supper though.

UrsulaBuffay · 02/03/2011 08:41

God I love full fat houmous!!

BsshBossh · 02/03/2011 10:07

I left some of my dinner last night (veg stir fry with tofu and brown rice) because I was eating slowly and felt full. I was very irritated by my DH whilst eating though as he was eating so fast (wolfing it in) in comparison to me! I didn't nag him though as this is my way of eating not his.

I had a scoop of Haagen Daz strawberries and cream icecream afterwards which I shouldn't have had really as I was already full from dinner - that was just greed Smile. Still a small scoop is better than my usual amount of ice cream which was a whole bowl Shock.

I refuse to do guilt on this "diet" (I know, it's not a diet).

Have not weighed myself yet (trying to hold out for the 2 weeks) butmy stomach feels less bloated and my jeans are feeling looser in the stomach. Also, I have loads of energy - I'm walking much faster and running up and down the stairs without realising it!

My book, CD and DVD have arrived at my DH's office so I will finally be able to have a proper read/listen tonight.

franch · 02/03/2011 10:08

JuicyOlive: that's exactly it - I'm having to get out of that same "stocking up" habit.

Still don't feel like the mind control thing is kicking in - it's all willpower for me still, which means I can't always stick to the rules. Doing my best though. Yesterday was good till dinner time - it was interesting, there was a bowl of poppadums in front of me (major binge trigger) and I just didn't feel like them. I ate most of my curry, intrigued, and then it was like the spell was suddenly broken - and I binged. I don't know if the weird feeling at the beginning of the meal (when I would normally just pile into the poppadums) was a glimpse of something or just wishful thinking.

I need to start doing the aversion thing on foods that trigger binges. Am hesitant for obvious reasons! Haven't tried the tapping yet either but can't imagine that's practical unless I'm alone!

BsshBossh · 02/03/2011 10:09

This eating slow business is really revelatory - so much junk food tastes vile when you really try and savour it. Do you find this?

arfur · 02/03/2011 11:55

BsshBossh - (I will try to make this the last time that I refer to the other book I have read regarding overeating, which is similar to but not quite the same as the PM thing but anyway ...) I have read that it is a natural body response to crave something sweet after a savoury meal - so even if your werent 'hungry' if your body was asking for the haagen daaz i would go with it - especially as you only had a tiny amount Grin I do find this sometimes too and usually find a very small amount of something sweet will sort me out, whereas if I ignore it tis more likely to provoke some major emotional eating! That whole deprivation promoting greed thing. Hope that makes sense x Had my biggest challenge so far last night as DH was away overnight (old me would always have actually planned and carried out a major binge) Sad reckon I might have abandonment ishoos! Had shepherds pie and left some but then had quite a lot of mini eggs whilst watching tv on my own, still nowhere near as much as I would have eaten in the bad old days so am taking it as a win! Keep up the good work ladies. P.S. Still havent weighed myself probably the longest Ive gone since I was a child - but like BB jeans are feeling looser so fingers crossed. x