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2011 Paul McKenna part two - our final diet

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whomovedmychocolate · 16/02/2011 21:17

Welcome etc. blah blah. :)

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bloomingnora · 26/02/2011 17:18

Hmm. Had another (want to say bad but don't mean that. Weird? Odd? Uncontrolled?) afternoon. Definitely trying to change the way I feel with food but it is not doing the job (and nor should it). I am very tired and am feeling totally shite. Gall bladder goes at the end of March. I cannot wait. Am back in the zone now, I think, but just desperately want to go to bed and sleep for 12 hours.

I am getting better at recognising triggers but am no better at doing anything about it. I am very tired again but I have three kids - I can't expect to never be tired....

I also didn't have anything in particular planned to do today so feel a bit aimless, drifting from one job to the next. I definitely need to be on the go more than this or I feel horrible.

I have sent DH to the pub to watch the rugby so I can retire to bed when he gets back with a clear conscience! If I had no responsibilities I would not have got up at all today. And probably eaten very little as a result. Oh well!

I do think this thread is my cross addiction, whoever mentioned that earlier.

Deafworm - I was most insistent that I needed to weigh myself weekly. I really thought I did until I realised that it was never going to be enough and even on the days when I felt great, if I had a small loss it made me feel terrible. So I decided not to do that anymore - it felt totally perilous and odd to start with but I am getting used to it a bit now. But I definitely needed to weigh to start with. It is a shame that you were feeling good and then got a not so good number on the scale but I second what WMMC said - weigh again tomorrow as with an inch loss like that it seems unlikely that your scales are accurate. Sorry, I know you said no comment on it....

bloomingnora · 26/02/2011 17:22

On the subject of bread, I had a jam doughnut yesterday (when hungry, eating very consciously) and it was disgusting - bland doughy mass is an excellent description. I have realised I do not like white bread AT ALL. I like stuff with seeds and grains and flavour.

solo · 26/02/2011 18:23

Fresh bread...yes! me too...but I've cut down on it a lot since last years end.

whomovedmychocolate · 26/02/2011 18:30

I'm hardly eating any bread either. Mind you I have never really liked the white stuff. Except the hit you get if you mainline white bread toast with lots of salted butter. But even that just doesn't appeal anymore.

Anyway, I have ordered my dogi and will be heading back to the dojo next Wednesday for the first time in a decade (eek!) and hopefully will live to tell the tale. Wink

DH has given up trying to eat with me now, I apparently eat 'weird stuff' (ie healthy food) whereas he lives on crisps, cheese, steak and chips (bleeeee). I have been eating an awful lot of Innocent Veg pots (well they are on BOGOF at Sainsburys).

Cat has vamoosed to sleep somewhere, we will need to find out where soon as the DC are going to bed.

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VJay · 26/02/2011 18:33

My downfall is maltesers, I had 4 today, as dh was having a packet and offered me some, and when he offered me more I said no Smile, they just didn't taste all that good, plus I wasn't hungry.

whomovedmychocolate · 26/02/2011 18:35

Four maltesers Shock

Wink

Four maltesers - if you are hungry and you enjoy them is fine. :)

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bloomingnora · 26/02/2011 18:52

4 maltesers??? Call the food police
!!!

VJay · 26/02/2011 18:58

Lol Grin, no I wasn't hungry but usually love them and scoff the lot, so was quite pleased with myself for stopping at 4 Grin

whomovedmychocolate · 26/02/2011 19:05

The food police

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whomovedmychocolate · 26/02/2011 19:07

I'm finding that I have to chew a lot more than 20 times on each mouthful. Is anyone else finding that - sometimes it's 50 or so. It's quite irksome sometimes. I can't swallow food now till it's properly chewed. Maybe I'm just an inefficient chewer because of all the years spent chowing, not chewing?

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VJay · 26/02/2011 19:10

I'm still struggling to chew 20 times, but I'm working on it.

JuicyOlive · 26/02/2011 19:12

I think you are on advanced chewing wmmc.

whomovedmychocolate · 26/02/2011 19:14

Is there a badge JuicyOlive? Grin

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solo · 26/02/2011 19:51

Yes, minimum 20 chews here now, often 30+

Left a spoonful of baked neans on my plate tonight; wasn't in the mood to cook really, so Dd and I had chicken and asparagus pie and baked beans! her choice! but it was nice! could so easily have put that last spoonful into my mouth though!

pinkcupcakefairy · 26/02/2011 21:03

I'm still struggling to get to 20+ chews on every mouthful, sometimes manage it, mostly don't. Had a rather amusing thought about that earlier - how do chew soup? Have some really nice soup in the fridge & thought well how on earth am I gonna make sure I chew each mouthful 20 times!!! Grin

Really struggling with knowing when I'm hungry and when I'm full - I can recognise the numbers I shouldn't be on the hunger scale but the ones I should are really difficult.

Today I thought I felt hungry so made some lunch, really struggled to tell if I was full but stopped eating. Had this feeling in my stomach but couldn't decide if it was hunger or fullness so stopped eating. The feeling stayed for ages but seemed to fade & then come back so I started to cook tea (late lunch & about 2.5 hr gap). In the 20 minutes it took me to prep tea I went from thinking I might be a bit hungry to physically faint, I was literally shaking with hunger & tea was still 15 mins away from being ready so I ate some fruit & half a chocolate bar, then ate all my tea & 1/4 of the leftovers and I still don't know I'm full or hungry. Its driving me mad.

I have been drinking water, in fact I make sure I drink whilst eating to help slow me down!!

Anyone have any suggestions?

whomovedmychocolate · 26/02/2011 21:08

Ah well you need soup maths - that is a calculation of how long it would take you to chew were it not soup, which is:
the equivalent of four chews (for smelling) ;
The actual chewing of the chewy bits in the soup - five chews ; The swallowing of the soup - four chews;
The enjoying of the aftertaste - five chews
The hunting for the next mouthful with enough chewy bits to make up to five chews - two chews.

Grin

Seriously I had soup the other day - it doesn't work. You have to keep reheating it.

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pinkcupcakefairy · 26/02/2011 22:05

whomovedmychocolate Grin

blinder · 27/02/2011 00:06

I feel a bit sick if I chew the full 20 times. The food feels old and yucky in my mouth. Must get over that.

Pinkcupcake I find that if the hunger gets too strong, the full signal is much harder to hear. In fact I think the only times I overate this week were the times I ate too late.

JuicyOlive · 27/02/2011 01:08

blinder. I completely agree. The only time I have overeaten in the past week was when I got too hungry first. I recognise that I need to stay within the 3-7 range.

whomovedmychocolate · 27/02/2011 06:37

I have realised that I need to go bra shopping as my boobs are now smaller Hmm

Actually everything is smaller, amazing for a week on how much has changed.

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ktwiltshire · 27/02/2011 08:50

I made the mistake of weighing myself this morning, put on just under a pound, but i went and straight away did a CD, had a shower and did the mirror exercise, and im feeling better.
had some porridge for breakfast and realied that i dont actually like porridge, so i had just enough to feel not hungry anymore.

off for a long drive to pick up the 2 eldest DDs from their biological father, so i have my audio book and a large bottle of water. family roast when we get back, should be yummy as usual!

happy sunday everyone x

blinder · 27/02/2011 08:55

Ktwiltshire I'm not weighing at all (I think if I knew what I weighed I would only attack myself for it!) but I feel a little bigger if anything this week. I'm just refocussing today and recommitting to the plan because it does work.

blinder · 27/02/2011 08:59

Btw I'm also finding the success journal very helpful. It is helping me to evaluate myself daily. I tend to start things with good intentions and then tail off effort. But having to fill the book in every day is a good reminder and a useful baseline to get back to basics.

If anyone isn't using the journal I'd recommend it.

UrsulaBuffay · 27/02/2011 10:11

I have not stopped thinking about exercise for ages. Thinking mind, not doing although I did some stretching on Friday and boy do my hips ache :) There appear to be some very fit people on this thread, I however am so unfit that I am scared of embarrassing myself. I am going to drag myself around the local rugby pitch shortly in a sort of fast walking type of way. Will post when I have done it.

Have just had breakfast and forced myself to leave the last 1/4 of toast as I was full. Was v hard to chuck it in the bin.

UrsulaBuffay · 27/02/2011 11:10

feel like am gonna die Shock