Page 17 | 2011 Paul McKenna part two - our final diet

solo · 27/02/2011 11:43

Well done UrsulaBray! you've obviously done that walk :)

I haven't started the journal yet and (you'll not believe my reason!) all because I can't find a soft pencil to write in it with!!! I thought that if I did that, I could reuse it if/when I needed to :)
I've also been on the scales every morning and so far, haven't gained anything, only lost the initial 4 1/2lbs.

bloomingnora · 27/02/2011 12:22

Solo - start the fucking journal woman. If you want to do it again I'll buy you a new one! (tough love approach, like it?!). Or you can write small and only take up half the space

I am having a good day. Still feeling a bit ill but took DD and DS1 swimming this morning. Eating going ok but feel very very hungry today - I do think that some of that is due to swimming though. It always makes me ravenous.

Off to the inlaws for roast later - always a challenge....I bet my MIL will say to me "My goodness, have you lost more weight? Paul Mckenna you say? No that would never work. I can't do these diets they always ask you to eat far more than I could ever manage" she actually says this a lot.

Fantastic job, Ursula! In a couple of weeks you will be coming back and saying, actually that is not quite enough instead of puffing and panting

AlwaysbeOpralFruitstome · 27/02/2011 14:01

My word this thread skipped along hasn't it. I've been away for the week at my folks so no proper internet access but it's great to see so many of you doing so well.

itsonly! This is a bit late, I'm sorry, but please be kinder to yourself. Your a fantastic person. Pretty, intelligent, warm and witty (and that's from only spending one day with you - I'm sure you've many more lovely quality's). If we hadn't of being going to a weight loss seminar and I had met you under other circumstance's, it wouldn't have entered my mind that you even had a weight issue (I don't mean to undermine the way you feel about yourself, just to show you that your perception is not the same as those around you and your gorgeous regardless of what the scales say).

Slow down and start again. Re-read the book and listen to the CD again, don't worry if you 'get it', just keep repeating the process until it clicks. Are you keeping the journal?

This is my second crack at doing this system and it's working better this time. I think sometimes it just takes a while for the brain to assimilate radically new ideas. Your not failing your just attempting something that needs time and patience. Don't give up chick, you can do this.

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whomovedmychocolate · 27/02/2011 16:02

Well it's my turn to be knackered today! DS woke up at 5:15 and DH got up with him but at 5:30 he fell off his chair and yelled so I ended up getting up anyway. Since then have taken them swimming (them swimming, me trying to prevent them drowning) and then puddlejumping for half an hour. Oh and I bought a sports bra ready for next week's class.

Glad you are all still on track. I'd rather go to bed than anything but can't do so till the monsters are asleep. Zzzzzzzzzzz.

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nevergoogle · 27/02/2011 19:36

Well I never, I now enjoy raw celery.
Used to hate it, what's that about?

blinder · 27/02/2011 19:42

I just mindlessly ate half an Easter egg

Bllcks

Not sure why I'm finding this difficult at the moment. Also ate my dinner too fast. Maybe I'm not eating enough and stopping too soon. Confused.

nevergoogle · 27/02/2011 19:44

were you hungry blinder?

blinder · 27/02/2011 19:50

I'm not sure!

Yes I think so. But dd asked for chocolate and I was eating it as I gave it to her.

I was still hungry at the end of dinner tonight I think...

blinder · 27/02/2011 19:51

I should probably have checked for genuine hunger first. Maybe I'm getting a bit complacent.

nevergoogle · 27/02/2011 19:55

ah, doesn't sound like a major problem.
sounds nice actually.

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whomovedmychocolate · 27/02/2011 20:27

blinder - isn't it a tad early for easter eggs?

Well I'm still on track. Weirdly because I am feeling quite unsettled today - end of half term-itis probably. Feeling the need to shake things up a bit and frustrated that I can't do more. Also waiting on a planning application before I can go ahead and do a little building project. Which is taking ages Oh well soon be there. :)

New week tomorrow everyone, let's make it a good one eh? :)

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nevergoogle · 27/02/2011 20:39

I've been away for the weekend with friends.
7 adults and 6 children. Eek.
I was a bit worried how the system would fit in with being sociable. I didn't want anyone to comment on me behaving strangely.
BUT...
guess what, that's how they were eating.
those naturally slim people were eating the same way.
doh!

managed not to overeat all weekend despite loads of delicious food on offer, but also enjoyed it and didn't feel like i was missing out.

MyCatIsABiggerBastardThanYours · 27/02/2011 21:13

ahem... er Hello?

I am of the largish persausion and am so fed up with WW (I did lose 4 stone on it 18mths ago to be fair but I was breast feeding at the time). I've come to the conclusion that all it's done is teach me to eat large quantities of food, fine if it's veg, less sow when I fall of the wagon and it's crips and chocolate.

I have tried Paul McKenna in the past but I don't think I was in the right frame of mind - so, is it working for you all? I really want to change my attitude to food, I just find myself eating crap all the time - then eating too much of it, then eating more and then.. well, you know the story.

I've put a stone back on and it's all I can do keep it at that. Is this worth a try again (will it work a second time if it didn't the first?)

nevergoogle · 27/02/2011 21:18

i tried once before and i didn't really follow it properly possibly because i wasn't reading the whole book.
this time i get it.
on day 9 and it's feeling good.
others on this thread have been doing it longer and are seeing great results.

supersewer · 27/02/2011 21:18

obviously joined this at the wrong part, but does this non diet work???
I brought the book today and thought it sounded like it was the common sense approach particularly after ww, sw and lighter life(god that was awful!!)?

bloomingnora · 27/02/2011 21:20

That is a fantastic adult:child ratio! I went out for the day on Friday and there were two adults and six children..... Sounds like you had a successful weekend!

I love that this system fits in with everything. No-one really cares what you're doing, they are just getting on with their meal.

I kind of managed at the in laws. Ate more than I truly wanted but not by much (bit of grapes and pineapple for pud - found it hard to say no as MIL had specially done a gallstone friendly pud!) and I ate really slowly but disguised it by helping DS1 use his knife and fork properly so I could put mine down and chew twenty times while he chased peas round the plate.

nevergoogle · 27/02/2011 21:23

i think it is common sense.
i was explaining this to DH the other day and yes, it is the normal way to eat, but some of us lose our way with normal for one reason or other.

bloomingnora · 27/02/2011 21:25

It is brilliant. I feel like I am repairing my relationship with food. So many revelations about how I eat and why, it is ridiculous.

Yes, it definitely works but you kind of need to embrace it!

It's not just the weightloss it's the feeling good about yourself that does it for me. I am calmer and more confident (I suspect that is another direct quote from the CD actually - but it's true).

And my food bills have definitely gone down and no more paying for SW!

Even when it's not going so well it's still the most sensible thing I have done about my eating problems.

blinder · 27/02/2011 21:43

WMMC actually it was a chocolate chick that Tesco puts at toddler level all over the shop.

Thanks nevergoogle

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whomovedmychocolate · 28/02/2011 06:38

Welcome supersewer and Mycatisabiggerbastardthanyourcat

For lots of us the second time works when the first time does it. Also the fact we are all doing it together helps a bit too because you are more likely to carry on knowing you are not the only person in the world.

The four basic rules are: Eat when you are HUNGRY, eat what you REALLY want, not what you think you should, eat CONSCIOUSLY and slowly and when you suspect your hunger level is reduced STOP eating. (You can start again in ten minutes if you are still hungry).

20 chews per mouthful is a guideline if you've never eaten slowly before.

I had a really interesting day yesterday - last night I listened (and actually stayed conscious to hear) four of five CDs and 'The secrets of naturally thin people' CD has some really interesting things to say which really resound with me now (but didn't last week)' (New folks, there is a five CD set which we received when we went to the seminar last week which has five CDs rather than the one you get with the book - it is perfectly possible for the system to work with just the one CD and book though - although it may help you to also get the 90 day weight loss journey because what gets recorded gets done).

It's also got a progressive trance - which seems much deeper than the Easy weight loss one (e.g. halfway through it even contains the 'sleep now' command.) and has more messages designed for those who are part way through, the first one seems to be a kick start for those getting going and the 'secrets' one is a midway pep talk.

The emotional one does F* all for me now because Paul definitely fixed that on the day, I haven't felt the need to do emotional eating since - hurrah. Amazing considering I was resorting to scoffing crap every time something went wrong before or even when I was bored. :)

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franch · 28/02/2011 10:19

nevergoogle - isn't that funny that you noticed that others were naturally eating the PMcK way. I observed the same thing over lunch with friends yesterday. They kept putting their cutlery down! Also naturally slim DH, enviable in his ability to eat all sorts of treats - the DDs made cookies and offered him one at teatime: "No, I'll have mine later thanks, I'm not hungry right now." And later on, of course, he had a couple, ate them slowly and thoroughly enjoyed them ...

OK so I'm on day 4 now and am keeping the faith. I am managing some of the time to follow the Golden Rules, but am relying mostly on conscious willpower to do this rather than feeling that the 'hypnosis' is kicking in.

Have any of you found that this thing takes a while to work?

franch · 28/02/2011 10:22

I think his idea of getting into the habit of always leaving something on your plate is a great one for Clean Plate Club members like me. Really hard but a great way of getting into the right way of thinking.

franch · 28/02/2011 11:23

Me again - how do you all manage when you're going to have a stretch of time when it's not convenient to eat?

On Sat, I had a hair appt at 12.45. I'd had a late breakfast so wasn't really hungry at 12.30, but had a little bowl of muesli as I knew otherwise I'd get hungry when I was there. Of course, I still got hungry by about 2pm so ate the biscuits I'd been given. Still hungry on the way home at about 3, I knew that what I wanted was the 2 leftover sausages in the fridge. Got in to discover that DH had chucked them in the bin!!! This totally threw me off course. ("Have some soup!" "I don't feel like soup!!!") All I could find that I fancied was some bread so I had 3 slices with butter. But felt deprived. Ended up bingeing on Nutella later on. I feel that my normal habit of pre-empting hunger by having lunch before the hair appt might have prevented some of this - ???

Similar situation tomorrow so advice would be appreciated: I will be working solidly from 10 to 1 with no chance of a break. I would normally have a huge bowl of porridge at about 8am which would see me through till I can get some lunch at about 2. But stopping when full doesn't really allow me to do that. Any thoughts?

blinder · 28/02/2011 12:09

Franch I completely agree but dont have much to suggest. Maybe take a snack you do want in your bag? I love fruitcake so might take a chunk with me just in case.

Getting really hungry is guaranteed to make me binge later. Oftrn on nutella . I could have written your post!

I'm also stopping at drive thru takeaways for a bag of fruit / a milkshake / a wrap if I think I might get too hungry. Not the cheapest way to live!

franch · 28/02/2011 12:32

Thanks blinder, I'm so glad someone else plunders the Nutella jar! Though hopefully no longer!