30 day shred 3rd thread. - shredheads

[Joby1970]

hi guys - new thread as the last one was on 998 messages

redderthanred, yes when you lose muscle mass then your metabolism slows down so in theory you would have to keep eating less and less to keep losing weight. When you gain muscle mass you have to keep eating more and more just to maintain your level of body fat, it's great!!

My weight has yo-yo'd all my life and it wasn't until I decided to stop focusing on my weight and just aimed to get stronger (my initial goal when I started in January was to be able to do proper push ups) that everything came together. It changed my view of looking at food as something bad I shouldn't be having to viewing it as something my body needed.

Try not to measure too often, once a month is enough to mark progress, but try and concentrate on how you feel when you eat different things. It took me ages to recognise that sugar actually makes me really tired and grumpy.

Oh LostGirl I don't know if I could hold off measuring myself once a month, I get too excited!

That's all really interesting and makes perfect sense.

That totally makes sense. It would get to the point where i would only be able to eat about 300kcals a day if i wanted to lose a lb.

I would end up in tears wondering why i had to eat so little to lose a tiny amount of weight and other people seemed to lose it and still be able to eat actual food.

I would get invited out to dinner or to a friends and stare at this plate of food they gave me knowing that if i ate it i would put lbs on.

So, basically ive been in a cycle of eat no food, lose weight, eat healthy food and then pile a ton of weight on ( and try to accept if i was going to actually eat, then i was going to be fat)

I dont and never had eaten processed rubbish, dont snack, dont eat huge portions, dont drink all that often so could never really understands it.

Basically i had/have buggered my metabolism then havent i.

I know that bread and pasta make me feel awful. Slow and sluggish and tired. Rice doesnt though.

I want to do a push up and clap my hands :)

yes LostGirl is like Yoda from Star Wars on here - she is amazing.

On a little note ladies - try not to get to het up with weight charts & BMI - they are based on an average person & I don't know about you lot nut I don't want to be average lol!

For my height I'm in the overweight BMI catagory & also approx 0.75 stones or more overweight according to the weight charts. However everyone thinks I'm much slimmer than I am & I'm sure this is down to healthy eating & regular vigorous exercise.

So don't be average be exceptional!

'So don't be average be exceptional!'

I love that

Don't worry your metabolism will pick up again. Eating regularly every three or so hours throughout the day helps, your body always has the energy it needs and you never really get hungry so are less likely to snack at other times.

And I totally agree with with Joby regarding the bmi not being the best assessment as it pays no attention to the percentages of body fat and muscle in your body.

ha- i was just about to ask if i can fix it!!

Ive only really been having smootie for breajfast and then protein and salad for lunch evey day, then an evening meal once every 3 days.

So actually that wont be helping will it.

For my evening meal ive typically been having steamed fish and veg. Or prawns and veg.
Or a baked potato.
Sunday i had a roast dinner though, chicken, skin off, no roast potatoes, just a bit of mash ( made with low fat butter oil type stuff) and about 5 different types of steamed veg. I felt really guilty eating that.

Today ive had a smoothie ( innocent)
Oat cakes for lunch with a small salad.
apple

loads of water( as usual, its all i drink)

i wasnt going to have anythign else. but now will.
Maybe a boiled egg and some seeded bread?

redderthanred... How are you not starving?

Ok, you are really really undereating and need to eat far more than that. three meals and two snacks spread evenly throughout the day should mean that you don't get hungry.

Try and combine protein, carbs and fats (yes, fat!) every time you eat. So, scrambled eggs (more egg whites than yolks, but the yolks contain good fats so don't chuck them all away) on wholegrain toast for example. Lunch, your protein plus loads of salad is great, maybe add a roll or something.

I tend to low carb on an evening and just do protein and veggies unless I have a run planned for the next morning.

FOr snacks, again try and combine carbs and protein, so an apple dipped in peanut butter, some raisins and almonds, oatcakes with some lean ham or something.

If you fancy a baked potato in the evening try a baked sweet potato instead, see if you like it.

Don't ever feel guilty for eating. You will have days where you eat out etc, special occasions where you splurge and eat more than usual, that is just life. Enjoy and go back to regular habits the next day. Nothing wrong with a roast dinner, just choose wisely and watch your portion sizes.

Please eat more than a boiled egg and a slice of bread this evening

Try and stay away from sugary things and anything labelled 'low fat' as the 'diet' type foods are normally full of rubbish and have no nutritional value whatsoever, and they generally taste like crap so what exactly is the point?

Lostgirl - you have touched on a bugbear of mine: Glasgow City Council issued leaflets at school adivsing parents to make sure that their kids' packed lunches did not have any cakes or biscuits and that we should provide low fat yoghurt and cheeses Ds is an active 10 year old. I have ignored the advice and continued to give him standard yoghurts.

Im not starving at all. I could quite easily go a few days without eating. If i get that hunger pain i just drink a lot of water, or go to sleep or soemthing. ( if its in the evening)

But this is from 12 years of doing this, in cycle with eating and gaining lots of weight.

I think i can just flick a switch in my head and decide to not eat at all.

Obvioulsy this is not good. I knew it wasnt good, but didnt know what to do about it. In the past ive been to the doctors about it, who i cant tell dont believe me, ive been to the hospital for tests and in the end they just gave me diet pills ( redictill i think) which made me jumpy and constantly thirsty. So i went back to not eating to get the weight off.

Totally not substainable for more than two months, start to eat again, 2 stone on in 6 weeks. And repeat for 12 years.

I actually feel better when i dont eat. When i eat i get terrible shakes from sugar drops. When i dont eat i dont get these. Also, not eating so much seems to help my pcos.

But, having started this dvd, and just brought jillians cook book and from talking on here its been really interesting and im going to get a few books out from the library and do some googling.

Popped into sainsburys on way home and brought some fresh kind prawns, a whole lot of veg im going to stir fry with them... and shock horror, some rice noodles. ( of which ill have a hand full off)

Interestingly enough, when i got diagnosed with pcos i went on a low gi diet as the doctor recommended, id never felt so good, but gained 4lbs in the first week. So, went back to not eating again.

But ive never exercised like this before - ever. So maybe this is key???

yeah - 'diet' things often have more sugar in them.

Having pcos and getting the shakes when i eat it, i know sugar is not good.

Most people dont understand that though. My mother is awful for it, buys 'diet' everything and will eat a whole big bag of haribo as they are fat free!!!

but then wonders why she is stuck in the same cycle i am. and goes to surviving on rice cakes and fruit for weeks on end and still only losing 1/2 lbs a week.

Im blaming her haha, seriously though, i dont want my daughter to pick up my eat/dont eat habits. So need to do something about it.

Redder: interstingly, I had been getting frustrated that despite eating an average of (net) 1100 calories (before exercise 1550) (according to FoodFocus) and having upped my exercise, I was still only losing 1, maybe 2 pounds a week. Last Sunday I deliberately took a day "off" the diet and was also fairly relaxed on Monday (was slightly above my target calories) - yet for today's weekly weigh-in, I have lost three pounds

well done you :)

I think, according to that food focus ive been eating about 600 for the last 2 weeks or so.

thats before exercise.

ridiclous.

Going to double it and see what happens.

Id bet anything on me putting on about 4lbs though.
Unless the exercise is making a difference.

It does sound like you've sent your body into full scale "starvation mode" so it will be trying to turn every calories you eat into fat to "get through the famine".

Oh redder this is going to have to be a whole new lifestyle for you. I think you should not judge the first week of eating more but after a month or so.

I just remember one episode of The Biggest Loser where someone lost nothing at all, When quized about her diet that week, she told them she had cut her calorlie intake from 1200 to 900 all week. And this is whu she didn;t lose. The following episode she eat the recommended intake she lost loads.

my gym instructor told me the other day that you have to 'lose' 3500 calories a week to lose just 1lb in weight. That is just a cut of 500 calories a day. That is without exercising, and then exercise on top to lose more. Thats why healthy weight loss is only 1-2lb a week.

Redder, yes the scales will show you putting on weight as your body is currently in starvation mode and is slowing your metabolism down and hanging onto everything it can as it doesn't know when it is going to get food again. Don't weigh yourself for a month, or even better just throw your scales away. Does it really matter what they say? Concentrate on how you feel instead. If you get the hunger pain then water is not enough, your body is telling you it needs food. Could you try adding a small mid morning and mid afternoon snack, this should hopefully help keep your energy up and stop the 'sugar slumps'. Have another look at the GI diet your doctor recommended and remember how you felt when you followed it. Surely if you are feeling good then you are more likely to want to exercise, be more active, make sensible food choices etc which will lead to long term weight loss. Once your body recognises that it is being fed regularly and consistently then it will come out of starvation mode and your metabolism will rev right back up again, and that combined with your exercise will bring the right results, but you need to eat consistently more for a long period for this to happen, you can't just do it for one week and then go back to eating nothing because that will not break the cycle.

prettybird I agree, dd's school is exactly the same.

Redder, your dinner sounds great by the way, hope you enjoy it.

ooooooh aaaaaaargh Just finished level 2 for the first time. I found the cardio easier than I was expecting, the strength harder and the abs about the same.

I enjoyed it though, especially those swishy side-to-side cardio moves. Brought out the deeply buried Torville and Dean urges in me

Well done everyone for keeping going, and welcome to the newbies!

Just moved onto Level 3 today, OMG that is HARD! I better see some results after that! When i first did level 2 it seemed difficult but now i would love to go back to that :o

DandyLioness I do level 3 in the morning and level 2 in late afternoon if i have time. But definitely not back to back!

My DVD arrived today - did it about an hour ago.

My legs are slightly jelly like and I think I'm going to feel it in my arms tomorrow! I'm so determined to tone up though, I've been saying it for years and need to really do something. I plan on doing it again tomorrow morning, providing I can still walk!

Also just did Level 2... gone back to feeling wobbly again... that's intense. And that was me following Anita. I did it though, I bloody did it!

Bandgeek give it 5 days, you'll be amazed at how much easier it gets.