Mounjaro - 10 Stone or more to lose - Thread 14

[TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne]

Wow. Thirteen threads behind us and many friendships forged.........

We've even been turned into a Group Thread.

All are very welcome.

Its so frustrating isn't it. The whole tier 2 (I think it is?) thing for weight loss in my area is vouchers for WW or slimming world and gym for a month or health loss coaching.

It doesn't work. I've been through their system twice... it is soul destroying as you put your all into it thinking "this time" and trying not to be negative. They absolutely put failures down to people "not engaging" or being negative etc.

All the people involved, salaries etc... and we know it just makes the problem worse for most people in the long run, and erodes people's self esteem.

I did it as a precursor to getting onto the WLS tier but truly didn't want that if anything else could help. I so wanted the coaching to work.. but its years of basically feeling I wasn't doing it right/hard enough.

I think so much of being on mounjaro, aside from the weight loss, has been a journey of removing the shame and the fealing of failure and self blame etc.

I think so much of being on mounjaro, aside from the weight loss, has been a journey of removing the shame and the fealing of failure and self blame etc.

I agree with this so much @FatsiaJaponicaInTheGarden

Oh guys - still feeling very unwell.
It's been like norovirus × 100.
I can see there are loads of posts I need to catch up on. But I'm starting to feel better now. Just.

I've been getting up to feed the cats, first thing, then going back to bed and going straight back to sleep.

Oh well. I think I'm improving now.
DS has been doing my shopping and keeping an eye on me.

Gosh that sounds really very unwell @TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne . Im glad your DS has been looking out for you.

I hope youre on the up. It sounds rotten. Do you think you need further attention/to see someone?

💐💐

Sending love broom xx

Same ..the courses I got were like what primary school children get about healthy eating ..
It was humiliating..
We all knew what we had to do ,it was putting it in to practice that was the problem
It was so basic ..and they had like some really young girl doing the course ,we were all getting on a bit ,and she was fresh out of school
No dignity
Had to give her our weight and food diary each week and she would tell us where we had gone wrong
It was a means to an end to get to being accepted for WLS

I had my first "are you on jabs" today (6 stones down, at least 6 to go). I didn't say yes or no, just said " eating less and moving more" as it wasn't a conversation I wanted to have in a park on a Sunday afternoon with someone I haven't seen for 12 months!

DH said I should have just said "better fitting bra".

DW visited this weekend and it was lovely. Really motivated me to try harder to get home. I've been here 7 weeks and I miss DS and the dogs dreadfully. On the plus side, I was downgraded to 1-1 care from 2-1 so I'm on the right track. My mental health is improving, things are getting quieter in my head thankfully. So the new meds are working.

However, they're also massively constipating me which as you all know is already a huge problem for me. I'm now taking the movicol and drinking so so much but it's doing nothing. I basically had to give birth to a poo this morning (sorry!) after a week and it was so hard and painful.

@TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne wishing you all the best, and I hope you recover quickly xxx

@PearlsTeapot - sending you all the best my darling, keep on keeping on! And congrats on the delivery 😉

Hope you're feeling better @TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne, can't even imagine anything worse than noro!

I wonder if the patronising and ineffective approach to weight loss classes will continue now, in the light of the success of the jabs? These days we have proof that although psychology, nutrition and education play a part in it, obesity is also a disease that can be treated with a drug, and isn't just something that affects stupid lazy people. I can imagine a lot of people - thin ones with no empathy or ability to understand others' experiences - will be reluctant to accept that at all.

Do any of you watch The Pitt? Medical drama with Noah Wyle from E.R in it. One of the episodes recently featured a massively obese man, over 470lbs or something, who couldn't fit on the scanner, couldn't lie down, etc etc. One of the young docs was rude to him but the rest were just so kind, so respectful. The poor man was so embarrassed and apologetic for being such an inconvenience. I know it's fiction but it was handled so well that it actually made me cry, and remember how terrified I was when I broke my ankle and needed an ambulance - my main fear was how on earth the paramedics would be able to lift me! Makes me shudder.

Anyway, weigh in day, and 3lb down this week. I keep getting annoyed with myself for being in the 250s when not so long ago I was in the 230s, but that way lies madness - it is what it is! Suppression still decent on 2.5mg after the reset, but still nowhere near as strong as it was first time around - I've eaten a couple of enormous take-aways, which I wouldn't have been able to do back then. But even though I felt that familiar sense of shame/failure afterwards, it didn't lead to a spiral of even more eating, so I'll just have to accept that this is how I am and move on. Have a good week all!

Original SW: 307lbs
New SW: 272lbs
CW: 252lbs

so no weight off last week on official weigh day.

I also messed up the dose this morning as I couldn't get the needle to prime, so ending up on 1 and had to press a tiny bit to check if primed and loads came out. I didn't want to take a smaller dose as no idea how much wasted but more than a couple of drops. Annoying but will have to explain it to the nurse .

eibbed999 when I had my first gallbladder attack I thought it was my heart and an ambulance was called out for me. He said he had to give me a spray under my tongue, but politely asked if I could walk out to the ambulance first because some people faint and it would be easier for them if I was already out there . I didn't take offence.

I’m still slowly losing now I’m in the final 3st to go. I can laterally see where that weight is sitting too - 1 stone on each thigh and the third in my belly.

Can we talk cellulite? Mine is more repulsive on ‘skinnier’ thighs. Rather optimistically wondering if those of you who are close to goal have seen any improvement?

@TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne sorry you are still poorly. Noro is a bugger to shake off, I really hope you're on the mend soon 💐

@PearlsTeapot so lovely to read about your progress, and your visit from your DW. I have everything crossed that you'll soon be on your way home xx

Do anybody you remember my awful appointment with the practice nurse a few months ago? The one where she told me I had lost too much weight, was absolutely fine beforehand, and would put it all back on again when I stopped the MJ? And when I said my starting BMI was 56, and was now 39, so I had loads more still to lose, she told me to ignore the BMI chart because it was a load of rubbish? There was loads more said, but that was the general gist of it 🤬. Bearing in mind, I was there for a completely unrelated reason, and nothing to do with my weight. Anyway, I am back there this afternoon, having ignored all her unwanted opinions, and another stone down. Wish me luck, I may need it....

@Billybingbong ooh I remember your post about the nurse, good luck today! Resist the urge to give her a slap 😆

Stand up for yourself @Billybingbong - so unprofessional! Ask to see the doctor if she says anything else, I'm sure the GP could set her straight on BMI and weight loss.

How did it go @Billybingbong better this time I hope!

@eibbed999 I've just started The Pitt, I've watched 4 episodes and it's so good! Haven't seen the one you are talking about yet. I was taken unwell a few years ago and unconscious and the ambulance crew had to call the fire brigade to come and get me down the stairs. I was around 21 stone then. I wish that had been my rock bottom but even that shame didn't stop me. I burn with the shame of it even now, thank god I wasn't conscious and aware of it but poor DW was.

Lovely to read all the positive stores. Sy o)rry you are sick still Broon for f irst time in well over 3 years I've no WLI on the ho use. just can't afford anymore
I am a bit sad and will probably go back to shakes to my get to goal. FFS Job hunting a t my ag e as brutal.

Sorry to hear that @Doggymummar

Well I was pleasantly surprised, it was fine. No mention of the MJ, just the generic "you look well". It was like talking to a different person than last time! I've also requested a medication review, so she's booked me in for a full MOT with the nice GP who is very pro MJ, so that will be interesting. It would be good to finally stop, or at least reduce, my 3 different BP meds I've been on since 8st ago!

It's very good, The Pitt - but maybe not for hypochondriacs! The one with the obese patient is in season 2. You've done so well @PearlsTeapot - leave that shame behind!

Maybe somebody had a word with her - if she was rude to you about it, she might have been with someone else! Good luck with the MOT! It's wonderful seeing the tangible effects of the weight loss on our health. I haven't even lost that much but my heart rate is now averaging 75, whereas not that long ago it was regularly over 100.

@eibbed999 I work with pre-hospital and hospital-based clinicians. From my experience, you’ll find them exactly the same as a general population. The vast majority will be thoughtful, respectful and non-judgemental and a small few will just be horrible, because they are anyway!

I’m at the stage now where I’m going to have to start making some decisions about how much further I want to go. To creep into the healthy BMI range I need to lose exactly 1st. That would take my weight loss to 9st 7lbs - I was always cheating very slightly joining this group as my target was a few lbs short of 10st!

However, I’m pretty happy with where I am now, how I look and how my clothes fit. I’ve probably been happiest with how I look when I’ve been around this weight in the past. I know I don’t like how I look when I am at what should be my target!

I go on holiday in a month - the sort of holiday that will involve quite a few meals out, the odd ice cream, a few pastries and definitely more alcohol than I usually drink. I think I’m going to carry on trying to lose until I go, relax when I’m there (but stay on MJ) and then review when I get back.

Most likely I’ll decide where I am now is the heaviest I’d be happy to go, set my ideal as 7lbs lighter and see that half stone as a buffer.

Would love some advice from others who are already maintaining, or in a similar position to me. And are there any other threads on here for that sort of thing that are even half as nice as all you lovely people?!

@OvertiredandConfused I’ve nothing helpful to add other than I’m feeling in the exact same position. I’m now 2.5lbs off a healthy BMI having lost 12st 10.5lbs. I’ve upped my exercise quite a lot recently but definitely don’t feel like I’m at target- I’m not sure I ever will though. I’ve dropped my target by another stone which would give me a BMI of 22.3, that would mean losing another 20lbs which I’m confident I can do but I am worried about what then- and if after such a massive weight loss how you ever come to terms with your new body and how to love it.

I’m off to my third reformer pilates class today. I was (unfortunately) positioned in front of the mirror when I went over the weekend and I was surprised I didn’t mind looking at myself and I didn’t feel I looked very out of place (I’m only 53% on my way to goal though). My weight loss has stalled again which I think might be all the gym visits but hopefully it evens out.

I'm still reading your posts but feeling pretty grim.
On the mend, but exhausted.