Mounjaro February to April 24 starters - Thread 5

[DesparatePragmatist]

Continuing the journey for those of us who have been on MJ since early 2024. Previous thread here:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight-loss-injections/5262448-mounjaro-february-to-april-24-starters-thread-4?page=39&reply=146714858

I did always think it odd that they were charging for a clinical study!

I suspect they got the idea from Zoe, although Zoe is very transparent about the study, even though it's making them money.

If anyone wants to read more about Shemed, there's an interesting thread on Reddit this morning:
https://www.reddit.com/r/mounjarouk/s/LOuHr9k0iR

I'll have a look when I'm on my phone later but I find myself quite fascinated by them now I've paid some attention. The immediate difference between SheMed and Zoe is that Zoe was set up by a highly credible research scientist with a track record of an interest in public health whereas SheMed is very very obviously a money making initiative badged as a women's health study (which may have very sincere intentions behind it) started by two people with no background in this at all.

And the Reddit thread confirms all my suspicions. Seriously worryingly that they’re getting away with throwing the words clinical study around so freely.

I hope someone makes a formal complaint to the regulators. I work in HE - the hoops my students have to go through to get ethics approval for their Honours dissertations puts this bunch of scammers to shame.

To everyone waiting on Juniper's Sept prices:

Daily Mail is reporting that Eli Lilly is having a wobble about price increases, and they may not go up as much. I am not surprised - they can do their own supply/demand math, but the proposed increase is vv likely to collapse demand. And they have twigged this. I think there may be a lot of back & forth on this over the next few months.
I have 3 7.5 pens, delivered yesterday, now stashed in my fridge.
I just pray pill version is released soon!
I know I cannot tolerate Wegovy; I tried it a couple of years ago & lasted two weeks it made me suicidally depressed, truly awful. Even though the pen cost £100+ , I tossed it.

The way these companies have acted I wouldn't be surprised if they kept the prices high, even if Lilly lowered them.

Lost all faith.

Juniper rejected my signing up photos even though they clearly showed my fat belly. They reckoned it didn’t so I’ve had to send very ugly belly photos 🙄. Will see what they have to say now.

my original order finally turned up this morning though so I have a 10mg pen now at least.

Yeah, i put the band of my bottoms under my belly 😩

I still haven't heard anything from them.

Checking in on this thread

Also.... I hope they are going to rethink the prices. People will be forced to quit or switch to wegovy. Eli lily will lose customers. The price hike is too much. Don't know what they were thinking.

I want to switch to wegovy once I've used up my stockpile as a big FU to eli lilly, but concerned that it may not work as well as mj dose for my thyroid/autoimmune conditions.

Checking in. Pharmulous pen came today. They are pretty good and always comes cold. One from TriBelle wasn't, so will use that first, but I am going to try and reduce again and keep a pen back. I hope this will keep me going. Diet hasn't been great of late with kids being off and bloody awful crazy brain fog and need to get back into eating better.

I've seen in the news about prices not going up as much for pharmacies. Although it is still going up I hope it starts a bit of a price war for everyone's sake. I know some people who have just started with good effect on their weight, so I really felt for them.

Saw prices for wegovy on juniper on tiktok and they said £150 for highest dose.

If prices don't come down substantially, I'll deffo move over for maintenance.

I also think it's pretty unethical that the companies are keeping the lower doses lower on price to get people hooked in. Hopefully that will mean that people stay on the low doses longer. I know I definitely should have.

I'm guessing that Wegovy will probably go up once people have moved over and then the cycle will repeat. That's big pharma for you. I wouldn't be surprised if the plan is for all of them to gradually increase prices under the guise of competing with each other to keep things cheap despite 'unforseen circumstances' or reasons to increase prices.

Wegovy's brand have said they would rather lower the cost in US, than hike our prices. I think that's very smart. They'll get all those who can't/won't pay for MJ.

@Flapearedknave Yes especially for maintenance where the difference in efficacy for actual weight loss is not the aim. I'm planning to move to the lowest dose of Wegovy when I've used up my stock (about 7 months). I hope the prices hold out but I've seen quite optimistic comments from NN too.

I'm planning the same. But I've never been a stock piler, so I have my pen from juniper, then I'll be going over to wegovy. So I can let you all know how it goes.

I've been stable at 10 1/2 stone for a while. Sometimes losing a little more. But I am really happy here.

15 just approved by juniper 🎉

@Flapearedknave Let us know how the swap goes.
I've been incredibly lucky as I'd ordered a 3 pack of 2.5 just before the madness hit which I'm just about to start, plus an old 5mg in the fridge. I only do 2mg now and could probably get away with 1.5 but stable now so don't want to mess with doses again. That's my only worry about Wegovy really - struggling with stability as I lost a lot of further weight as I titrated down and can't afford to lose more. Nice problem to have though.

I'm finding maintenance quite interesting at the moment as I'm in a spot where I've still lost a bit of weight, I still get full pretty quickly, but the desire to eat treats has reappeared. I just wasn't interested for most of my time on Mounjaro so didn't have to exert a lot of willpower. But now I am much more "oh let me mindlessly eat this biscuit".

I need to work harder on choosing a better snack when that hits. I've got plenty of good options in, I just keep being lazy about it and I'm not automatically wanting a more nutritious option.

I'm quite happy to work on this. It feels easier to try and face the challenges of it while at a healthy weight. Rather than doing it when I was 8 stones overweight and feeling that it was all pointless as how would I ever lose that much.

I completely feel the same.

Snacks have definitely crept in.

I still get full quickly, but it subsides quote quickly and I can start again.

But I'm using chatgpt to do meal plans and shopping lists. The new update even means he (yes, he, please don't judge hahaha) should be able to actually fill the basket for me, but I haven't tried this yet! But the options are always really good, nutritious, quick and stuff I want to eat. He even does autistic friendly ones for my son. And wine pairing 😂 another thing that has crept back in.

Here is next week's:

~Monday - Creamy Tomato Pasta & Garlic Bread

Wholewheat pasta with blended tomato, roasted red pepper, garlic, and hidden veg.

Finish with crème fraîche (not sour cream 😉), topped with parmesan.

Side: garlic bread, salad with balsamic.

Tuesday – Lemon Herb Chicken with Veg

Chicken breast in lemon, thyme, and rosemary.

Served with roasted new potatoes and seasonal greens.

Optional tzatziki side (your favourite).

Wednesday – Stuffed Flatbreads & Mezze

Toasted flatbreads filled with spiced veg and hummus.

Mezze board: olives, feta, cucumber sticks, quick pickled onions.

Sparkling water with mint & blueberries.

Thursday – Garlic Mushroom Risotto

Arborio rice with stock, garlic, mushrooms, peas.

Finish with parmesan and a drizzle of truffle oil (if you like).

Side: leafy salad.

Friday – Charcuterie Board Dinner (Bacchic Feast)

Mix of Italian meats, cheeses (brie, mozzarella, feta), figs, flatbreads, dips.

A treat night but with fruit and veg balanced in.

Saturday – Grilled Salmon with Herb Couscous

Salmon fillets grilled with lemon and dill.

Served with couscous, roasted veg, and yoghurt sauce.

Dessert: fresh fruit (berries, figs if you’ve got them).

Sunday – Roast Chicken & Veg Traybake

Roast chicken pieces with carrots, parsnips, and potatoes in olive oil and rosemary.

Gravy if you want comfort.

Side: steamed greens or a simple salad.~

I love "gravy if you want comfort"!

@KeepUndercover
It's so interesting how different experiences can be, even in maintenance. I'm sort of the inverse of you in that i still don't get hungry (so resisting snacks is not difficult and i often eat only one meal a day) but when I do eat, I don't get so much satiety so can eat a bigger portion and fancy more carbs in particular. I then get a bit uncomfortably stuffed - need to work on this.

It is really interesting the different ways we're reacting to this bit. I am still losing tiny bits of weight so I'm clearly not going over calories, but it feels like it could easily be a slippery slope to regaining over time. And it's just not that healthy either. I'm sure some of it is also just being the school holidays, more trips out, more treats etc.