What opinion about WLI would you not normally admit to?

[LittleMissContrari]

Do you have an unpopular or unpalatable opinion?

Mine is that if you can't do the maths, you probably shouldn't be messing about with the dosage.

I recently started Mounjaro with a BMI of 32. Technically that makes me obese. Do I see it as a medical condition? For me, no. I accept that it is different for others.

I think you are looking down the wrong end of the telescope - it doesn’t really matter how you acquired the weight - steroids, slow metabolism, or over eating / lack of exercise.

At the end of the day being obese at BMI 32 will have changed the biochemistry in every cell and organ system in your body dysfunctionally. So you risk CVD, dementia, diabetes, kidney disease, increase BP, cholesterol, infertility and musculoskeletal skeletal problems. So it is a medical problem doesn’t matter how you see it.

Ok, now you’ve articulated it, you do feel you have an advantage over someone not on the drugs, the reason you’re getting push back is we all don’t feel our medical health is a competition, and the medication we are prescribed isnt us cheating others, it is about us alone. But this is your view, you feel you’ve got an advantage over other fat people, so fair enough, you do you.

That’s a fair comment. I guess what I am saying is that I don’t believe I have any metabolic issues that are causing me to be overweight. I know many people do and how challenging it is to lose weight. I am simply fat through my own greed and that’s entirely down to me, there is no other reason.

You’re also right that I risk all of the conditions you mention. I know I’m lucky so far that I seem to be healthy but in my late 50s I realise I’m on borrowed time and it’s time to change. I see Mounjaro as a tool to help me do that. Is it cheating? I don’t think so. It’s no different to going to Weightwatchers, employing a nutritionist or personal trainer. It’s a tool and no-one should be judged for making the best choices for them.

I don’t get this attempt to make a distinction between “technically” being obese and having the medical condition of obesity. You can’t “technically” be obese but not have obesity, it doesn’t make any sense, they are the same thing. You might just as well say “my HbA1c is 60 so technically I have type 2 diabetes but do I see it as a medical condition? For me, no.” It’s nonsense.

Regardless of what caused obesity, once someone becomes obese they do have a metabolic condition.

I don't agree with @MrsMiagi's use of the word 'cheating', but this is just mean.

This ^

I will not admit this publicly but I think Mounjaro is fucking brilliant.

The end.

I’m struggling with this too. Once you’re obese you have the medical condition of obesity, there is no technicality about it, and if you’re obese then your body will not be performing optimally and you will be suffering from multiple metabolic issues, irrelevant of the fact you don’t know it, it doesn’t change it.

Obese is obese is obese.

The cause of obesity differs, and the health conditions we suffer when there can vary within certain parameters but no one is technically obese v medically obese, everyone is both technically and medically obese.

and sadly anyone who thinks they are both healrhy and obese is deluded. The two are in fact mutually exclusive.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 aww, I hope that mean comment made you feel better. Well done you.

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SAME!

Thank you 💐