Mounjaro/Wegovy with > 5st/30kg to lose: Thread 7

[MooBaggage]

Thread SEVEN of this lovely community. Anyone using weight-loss injections to lose more than 5 stone or 30kg is very welcome to join us, no matter what stage of the process you are on. Share your losses, your non-scale victories (NSV), your frustrations and your love of Longley Farm cottage cheese and kiwi fruit here!

Nothing is off limits to discuss - from protein sources to B bellies; Hammocks to smart scales; feeling chilly to easier bum wiping 😃

Please don’t post discount codes on this thread as your post will be deleted. These need to go in the dedicated thread on this board

Oh wow you look fabulous

Hi everyone - not caught up with all the posts but checking in on the new thread.

I'm back from 3 weeks in NZ. Not a total disaster eating wise, but I did miss the lack of control etc over food prep etc. We stayed a lot with family who only eat takeaways etc. A few blips with chocolate and ice cream but also much success with better choices.

Visiting NZ is awlays a really difficult emotional turmoil situation - think of every difficult family issue compressed into 3 weeks every few years while everyone thinks you are on holiday having much "fun". Now family members are getting older its even more difficult.

The NZ population is noticably very overweight. I was shocked. Junk food and takeaways are very popular there. Food in supermarkets etc is really very expensive, while take aways/fast food is pretty cheap. I don't know how that works. If you have ever been to Asia you have propably noticed how many people there don't cook but eat out for every meal - its very cheap to do this & there is good food widely available. I've noticed this in many Asian countries - India, Thailand, Malaysia etc. There seems to be a similar trend observable in NZ now but the food quality is not great, and most is very high in salt, sugar and fat.

Every issue re learned family dysfunction & emotional issues was there all around me and I am pleased how I coped with that. I am learning new ways - this was really positive.

My Dad didn't make anytime to spend with us (he could have easily done this). I am really hurt (again) by his rejection - there is no where to take it, and I need to deal with this myself. He came to a large family meal where it was very busy and we maybe talked for 5 minutes. This is the most contact we have had in many years. I shouldn't be surprised but it is still painful. Still, I am not driven to eat by this emotional turmoil, so that is a massive improvement. Mind you I've not discussed this with anyone yet - I'm keeping it all inside.

I stopped pooping in the last week I was there - very strange. Even 🥝🥝 and kefir and all my other tricks didn't work. Long flight home was a bit nerve wracking but since I have been home (less than 24 hours) normality has resumed.

Not weighed myself yet - so I'm not sure of the damage (there will be some). But I am really happy and relieved to be back home, back in control of my fridge contents & meals, back on track & back on this thread. Back to yoga tomorrow - very excited about that.

One really postiive aspect of the trip was I spent very little time online or on my phone & I really enjoyed that. I'd like to keep that up.

I had to check out @InfoSecInTheCity 's pics before going back to work - OMG Info you look amazing. And so very different - I bet lots of people don't recognise you!!
Thanks for sharing those pictures and congratulations on your weightloss & life altering achievement.

@Reginaphalangeeeee my sister has lost over half her starting body weight in 18 months (gastric sleeve). She goes to a therapist that specialises in working with people who have lost large amounts of weight - as we are all discovering here to one extent or another, its a lot to deal with and get your head around.

I would like to find someone local to me who does the same - not sure if this is even a thing, as I've looked in the past but never encountered anyone offering weight/weight loss specific therapy. But they must be out there.

There's a woman who does a podcast called Out of the Cave. She coaches people to maintain weight loss and health. I've listened to a few of her podcasts. There's also a podcast called Life After Diets which has a British therapist called Sarah Dosanjh who works with people on these issues. I like her but she hasn't been there as a properly fat person to start with! She hosts the podcast with an American called Stefanie Michele who has a coaching program that looks really good.

There's definitely room for more therapists who understand what it's truly like to be overweight and and to lose weight, and worked out how to maintain weight loss. What drives obesity is so complex, both emotionally and physically, and I think we do need to unravel some of that in order to really get to health. Or I do, anyway!

I've just had a bit of a google and I can't find any therapists with "weight loss/management/change" as a specialty apart from those comeing up linked to online pharmacies.

I agree there will certainly be a gap for therapist specialists in this area, both now and in the future.

ug typos! sorry.
to clarify, I was looking in my county, not nationwide

Yay!! You're back! 😊I was really hoping you'd find us - I was going to give you another week or so and then hunt you down and point you in this direction!😄

Well done on surviving NZ - sounds tricky... Great you had screen-free time though - I'm much better at this when on holiday - terrible when I'm at home/working... 🙄

I agree obesity is such a head fuck - maybe especially when it's impacted on such a long period of time - for me, all my adult life.

I've been thinking about it all day today because I weighed this morning - I have never lost weight this well and consistently (36lbs in 14 weeks with no slip ups/bingeing/regretting etc.), but I still don't believe it's actually happening. I don't believe it's 'working', even though part of me knows it is. So it's not easy, but it is just happening - and my mind is just totally effed by this as it has had 40 years experience of it not working like this 🙄 Hopefully as the months go by it'll become more usual!

I also haven't even lost more than about what I've lost now in my life - and this is something I'm thinking about a lot - like it's almost impossible to get past the 40lb mark. Hopefully the next couple of months will prove me wrong!

All of the above I think is why it's a mental as well as physical 'disease' when you've got long term obesity. I like the thought of fat loss therapy - hadn't considered it before, but it actually sounds like a really good idea!

Been a busy day, loads to catch up on.

@Reginaphalangeeeeei have no clue if collagen actually does help or if it’s just a really good sales pitch but i take 2 x 1000mg tablets in with my other daily tablets (I should rattle the amount of pills i swallow).

@Ditsy79Water retention definitely got me when I went away in Feb, took about 3 days of drinking 2 lts a day but the weight fell off quickly.

@taylorswift1989I loved it when I could comfortable wrap myself in a towel, no more comparing them in the shop to find the biggest of the bath sheets.

@MacForCracwell done for getting into the 15s, it’s always a little thrill seeing a new number at the beginning of the weight!

@Questions1234do an online TdEE calculator being accurate about what your activity level is and see what it suggests. You need to eat above BMR and you will find your TDEE shifts around a bit, it will reduce as your weight does but will also increase as your activity does. I tend to stick at around 1400-1600 a day. I’m 5ft 8, 41 yrs old, at least 3x30 min sessions of exercise.

@Reginaphalangeeeeeglad you’re feeling a bit brighter today. I don’t deliberately fast but I’ve always hated breakfast so technically I do it by accident.

@RobinEllacotStrikewelcome back I’ve missed you on this thread and some of the other topics we seem to share similar opinions on! Sorry to hear you had family problems, I have an extended family like this and basically just don’t bother with them. If they contact then I response politely and engage in meaningless chat but I don’t factor them in as important.

Welcome home Robin
I'm sorry your father missed his opportunity to speak with you/know you, that's 100% his failure & loss 💐

So interested to read what you say about NZ food culture - is this Auckland? My (dated or current but second hand) experience of Wellington/Christchurch etc is quite different.

questions I don't ever eat my exercise calories - mostly due to the exercise paradox thing about humans basically using the same number of calories regardless of exercise. (Also I have to eat way under what the calculations say to lose any weight anyway!)

@ReginaphalangeeeeeI used to do some fairly serious fasting (basically only eating 3 days a week) & doing so lost me the most weight I have ever lost until MJ. (But I put it back on with interest ) Plus I've been restricted time eating to only lunch & dinner for a good decade UNTIL 2/3 weeks ago as I've been listening to/reading Stacy Sims' work & she says women benefit from fed not fasted workouts. Her stuff is really interesting & despite really not wanting breakfast I have found eating it has made my scale move more that it was doing - despite the resulting higher calorie count 😵‍💫🤷‍♀️

@RobinEllacotStrike Welcome back!
I have a friend who is a counsellor and she recommended looking on the BACP website and typing in weight as the issue you want to discuss. Not everyone will be suitable so you may need to email or speak to them to then narrow it down.

@InfoSecInTheCity you look amazing, well done!!

@RobinEllacotStrike welcome back! I’m sorry to hear about the family issues, and hope there was some redeemable moments for the trip!

How did you find travelling with MJ? Did you continue to take it? I’m travelling long haul in a month and will need to jab twice in that time, wondering how it will go plane travel wise etc!

Welcome back @RobinEllacotStrike

Can I also ask MJ Gurus about travelling with MJ? Does it need to go in hand luggage? I am travelling to Europe for 3 weeks. Would rather it went in my case in the hold, but if it needs to go in hand luggage then I'll do that.

Online guidance says to carry on due to temperature changes in the hold https://onlinedoctor.asda.com/uk/travel-with-mounjaro.html

@InfoSecInTheCity Thanks, that is very helpful.

Hi All and thanks to @MooBaggage for telling me about this thread! Weighed in at 109 kg last Thursday when I did my first shot, today sneaked a look at am at 107. I am genuinely excited to be doing something new for a change after years of failed dieting!

Hello! 😊 Yes it's just amazing when you realise it's actually going to effing work..!

Hope you've not had any side effects and are doing OK 💪

Thanks, @MooBaggage , some but only the first few days - seems to be settling. I have a weird fluttery sensation in my stomach area sometimes, but not needing to go to the loo as often and so not too bad. Nothing else so far, so fingers crossed!

I’m coming to the tail end of week three on Wegovy and have managed to go up 2kg because I’m so bloated 😫 I had a bad stomach overnight last weds, so took Imodium before work. I have not been to the toilet since. I’m eating fibre rich foods and have had two lots of senna…still nothing.

Great you are back @RobinEllacotStrike& really interesting hearing about food in NZ. Here in the uk it feels like all food it just getting more and more expensive. Seems I can’t pop to the shop without spending £30 for just a few things. I hate how expensive prepared salads are at places like M&S but actually think it’s the cheapest way of getting variety of food items (protein and veg) without great expense and probably most of it going off if I bought it separately 🙄

So sorry to hear difficulties with family. I can only imagine how hurt you are by your dad’s behaviour but always remember it’s about him, NOT YOU. I miss my dad so terribly (nope can’t even type that without crying), But do have a difficult relationship with my mum. She has got trickier the older she has got and think you grow to expect less but it hurts no less. With tricky family it is hard to protect yourself from their hurtful actions. Hoping you have some peace now home.

Welcome @Hotflushesandchilblains
sounds like a great start!

Thanks @Arglefraster, that’s interesting. I could never manage that amount of fasting, wow, hats off to you. I know I would get super grumpy and bicker with my husband more. Some days I do eat breakfast, or have it mid morning if hungry. But like @InfoSecInTheCity normally just not hungry and even more so since on MJ.
I think the biggest factor though is not knowing what to have.
I don’t eat dairy and so whey proteins are not an option. I like eggs but don’t tolerate them if eat more than 2-3 times a week. I like fruit but recon this just gives me a sugar spike I don’t need. My husband eats left over dinner for breakfast, it turns my stomach to see/smell that sort of food in the morning.
Pre MJ I would rely on toast (often peanut butter on) but then feel sluggish after and so thought maybe just avoid is better. One less meal to think about. I know I react to bread (and absolutely love it) so don’t want to fall into a toast trap.

Any other breakfast ideas?

Oh dear, that sounds uncomfortable. Lots and lots of water. Prune juice and prunes are often recommended on here.

I'm not sure when being constipated becomes a medical situation but that's a week now since you've gone so I would be considering maybe asking the GP if it goes on much longer.

Holy cow! Look at you! What a change. You must be so thrilled @InfoSecInTheCity , congratulations!