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Mounjaro/Wegovy with > 5st/30kg to lose: Thread 7

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MooBaggage · 18/04/2025 17:20

Thread SEVEN of this lovely community. Anyone using weight-loss injections to lose more than 5 stone or 30kg is very welcome to join us, no matter what stage of the process you are on. Share your losses, your non-scale victories (NSV), your frustrations and your love of Longley Farm cottage cheese and kiwi fruit here!

Nothing is off limits to discuss - from protein sources to B bellies; Hammocks to smart scales; feeling chilly to easier bum wiping 😃

Please don’t post discount codes on this thread as your post will be deleted. These need to go in the dedicated thread on this board

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alwaysscared · 27/05/2025 18:25

@QueenOfHiraeth 😂😂 the boobs are too big! Bloody pain in the arse, or back!

MooBaggage · 27/05/2025 18:30

@alwaysscared I couldn't agree more! I was thinking just this morning that no matter what my weight ends up being, I will always be booby... 🙄 I can't bear them and have always hated the attention they have caused - am hoping I'm now too old to be attractive once I've lost weight this time... 😃

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alwaysscared · 27/05/2025 19:05

@MooBaggage I’m the only one in my family with big boobs and I hate them. And since having a child and breastfeeding for a year (even though this was 11 years ago!) they just sag and hang and are horrible looking! They look ok in a bra, but who wants an over the shoulder boulder holder on all day?! As soon as I come through the door, the bra is whipped off and they just dangle freely 😫😂

AnneinEdinburgh · 27/05/2025 19:06

How old is Dolly Parton ;-)

Arglefraster · 27/05/2025 19:35

@NewbieMJIf you'd be willing to share I'd be very interested to read about your decisions w.r.t. autoimmune & supplementation.

Sorry for everyone having a hard time just now💐
My scales are stuck/going up basically hovering around since 3rd May they dipped a couple of kilograms a couple of weeks ago but have come back up, I'm feeling generally fed up (with other stuff) & not sleeping so just trying to keep going (& notice how much my brain wants food when I'm tired &/or miserable!!)

NewbieMJ · 27/05/2025 20:08

@Arglefraster certainly. A very basic version is that I had 2 horrendous episodes - where I lost my vision. ..the first was misdiagnosed, but later rectified as both episodes being Optic Neuritis. I was tired to the point I couldn't function and was 10 weeks and 8 weeks respectively bed bound. Horrible pressure in my head (not headaches as such). Thankfully brain scans and spinal scans clear, but one was misread earlier and it turns out I had severe damage to my optic nerve which had been overlooked on my first brain scan some years earlier.

I had what I describe as "heavy arms" (which sounds ridiculous) and numbness in my hands and feet which rendered me fairly useless and unable to function. I eventually got a wonderful Neurologist who concluded that it was probable I had onset MS. It was the darkest time.

I basically went on a research mission to research everything and set about identifying my symptoms and deciphering their root cause and tackling them. (I am not a scientist, but my husband is, so I got him to explain the science in the research papers that I couldn't understand and slowly got to grips with everything). It took a couple of years to tailor it all properly, but I am now on a regime of supplements and (trying) to get as much nutrition out of my food as I can. I am over 10 years on and a completely different person physically. My friends and family are blown away by my transformation. I also no longer suffer from crippling endometriosis and adenomyosis, but that might be age and stage of being peri-menopausal. I am 54, but it started to really ease around 8 years ago.

My number one priority is sleep. I need a minimum of 8 hours sleep a night and if I don't get that, after about 3 days, my health slumps horribly, so I know I have to ensure it. The rest is basic mineral balance (I say basic - now it is finely tuned, and it took a while). Things like I knew my thyroid was not right, but the NHS tests were saying fine, that kind of thing, so I keep my thyroid in check with sea kelp and selenium. The most important supplement is wholefood vit b that I have to have every morning and magnesium (I take loads of magnesium in various forms).

Anyway, I am very strict and it has transformed my life. The final part was my diet/nutrition and my weight. My eyes were opened by reading Jason Fung's books on obesity and I realised I have stubborn insulin resistance. Diets never worked, despite calorie deficits and I got to an all time high of 19+ stone. I fortunately don't get food noise or anything like that, so I am very lucky (no sweet tooth either thankfully), and I thought my diet was healthy (it wasn't). I avoided butter, cream, fat of any kind, eggs, all the stuff that I thought were unhealthy and replaced them with low fat and healthy wholegrains. I religiously stuck to the food pyramid. Basically, I got fatter and fatter.

Anyway, sorted all that now and my diet is the opposite of what I used to do. I follow Dr Berg online who I believe has saved my health.

Sorry this is so long, and not wanting to hijack the thread - others can just click past my post, but that is it in it's very basic form. I hope this is helpful in some way.

alwaysscared · 27/05/2025 20:46

So I’ve f’d off counting calories tonight and treated myself to 2 rice cakes with pip and nut peanut butter, strawberry and some sweet freedom butterscotch syrup, yummm! And I’m not even going to add it to nutracheck, naughty! 😱😬🤷‍♀️

alltablenochairs · 27/05/2025 21:41

I get a lot of soreness around my neck and shoulders. My 11 year old is surprisingly good at finding the pressure points and then digging his elbows and heels in. Sounds like hell but it's surprisingly effective for me and a surprisingly effective source of pocket money for him. Anyway he was giving me a shoulder rub tonight and told me I had bones in my shoulders. I'll take that as a compliment!

@NewbieMJ do you happen to have your research list? If so would you be willing to share it with me? Unfortunately and IME I find that the NHS attitude towards autoimmune issues and longer term health issues is woefully inadequate. Especially locally but that's a different story.

NewbieMJ · 27/05/2025 22:15

I tried to message you @alltablenochairs but can't for some reason. Fabulous about being boney :-) Definitely take it as a compliment!

Was years ago and haven't kept anything I don't think, but I started off by following "The Root Cause Protocol" and did so for many years, then found Dr Eric Berg and Dr Jason Fung. It's all evolved into where I am now.

I would recommend that you take a look at The Root Cause Protocol. It is great and there is a facebook page and lots of research, papers, podcasts, etc. I happened upon it when I was reading about the benefits of magnesium.

I completely agree re NHS and autoimmune. I had a superb neurologist, but she went off on maternity leave and I had to wait over a year for a follow-up with her, and by that point I was so desperate to feel better, I started to do my own research trying to figure what the hell was wrong with me. . She did, however, encourage me on my journey, when I eventually did see her. I don't go to GP's these days, unless I am forced to (always been dismissed and mainly gas lit over the years and the humiliation of the "talk" about my weight) BUT my lovely new GP is all about the nutrition and was very interested in keto and fasting and was rooting for me last time I saw him, which was refreshing.

Sadly the NHS is on it's knees and anything preventative never sees the light of day (especially at the moment). You are right - totally inadequate with long term conditions, particularly autoimmune issues. They diagnose (if you are lucky) and very much leave you to it. I figured that I would have to be my own advocate.

Here is the link to the Root Cause Protocol, which should give you a good introduction and decent jist.

Root Cause Protocol | Reverse Inflammation | Morley Robbins

Root Cause Protocol | Reverse Inflammation | Morley Robbins

Reverse inflammatory disease and oxidative stress by following the steps of the Root Cause Protocol, created by medical researcher, Morley Robbins.

https://therootcauseprotocol.com/

alltablenochairs · 27/05/2025 22:19

@NewbieMJ poss wouldn't let you message me as this is my MJ only username. I've messaged you from the one I usually use.

NewbieMJ · 27/05/2025 22:20

Also @alltablenochairs - I completely empathise re your desperation to get help for your son and the exhaustion of it all. I was the same with my son in his younger years and it is relentless. He is now a very resilient, able, autistic man with a great career and living independently, but his childhood was traumatic and exhausting, mainly through fighting tooth and nail for resources. You're doing great!

taylorswift1989 · 27/05/2025 22:22

Just a quick question - I'm going to jab 6mg tomorrow from my 5mg pen. Do I need to swap the needle over for the extra clicks, or do you think it will be fine to use the same needle? Seems like a faff to change it but I also want to be safe!

MooBaggage · 27/05/2025 22:27

Really interesting discussion re: autoimmune disorders! I also ended up very poorly - admitted to hospital in 2006 when I was 37, with stroke and/or brain tumour symptoms - I had right sided and facial paralysis (from out of nowhere - coming home from work one day!) and confusion re: letters and numbers. Doctors said stroke or tumour were the most likely things and I spent 5 days having every test under the sun.

Eventually a blood test, then endoscopy diagnosed Coeliac - so much better than initial worries! I had been undiagnosed my whole life and my body had started to shut down. I've also got Graves disease and PCOS - so quite the collection!

You end up becoming an expert patient I think - because we end up being too complex for the NHS to cope with. I have numerous other things, but my body does love to collect up autoimmune stuff... I worry about what might be next, but am hoping that the weight loss will give me the best chance of being healthy as I get older.

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alltablenochairs · 27/05/2025 22:32

@taylorswift1989 I haven't double dosed for a while but when I was I changed the needle over- it seemed to not hurt as much with a fresh needle.

@NewbieMJ things for my son are actually pretty settled now. He's in a school that can meet his needs, we have a pretty decent respite package and he's reasonably settled at the moment. He loves his adventures (I.e. going places) so I was out for the day with him today. I'm doing some direct client work tomorrow morning but he's already told me he will be meeting me after work with DH and we will be going for chips at the local garden centre. He LOVES all things gardening and will prob want even more plants for his front border. However it's not always been like this though, there have been some very difficult and dark times.

Now he's sorted and settled and my body isn't quite so hellbent on offing me, I'm taking some time to sort myself out. Hence the MJ for one. I'm down almost 30kg since starting it last October. I now weigh less than I did at my booking in appointment with him 11 years ago.

taylorswift1989 · 27/05/2025 22:46

Thanks for the advice @alltablenochairs - and I'm happy to hear how well things are going for you!

Timetofindme · 28/05/2025 07:13

@alwaysscared how long have you been bobbling around the same few pounds? You've lost more than me and I'm not expert. Just - I've been bobbling around the same few pounds for a good 6+ weeks. I haven't wanted to increase my dose as 6.25 made me really unwell. I then realised that I'm at the weight I was when I first started to lose weight. I've also not really had a plateau this long since I started. So I've just sat it out and finally the last couple of weeks I've started to drop again (although small amounts). As I say - not sure how long you've been stalling but maybe just focus on water, and give yourself patience. I'm also up a pound from my weight on Monday cos I did a big weights workout and am hobbling around cos my muscles are protesting so thinking I've got some water retention going on!

Timetofindme · 28/05/2025 07:16

I'm due to inject tonight and trying to figure out whether to do half my normal dose, or nothing.

For context, I have surgery coming up. My surgeon has said I should be fine to keep taking the MJ. But from previous discussions on here it seems everyone else (that I've read) has been told to stop it 2 weeks before.

Obviously i don't want to stop taking it if I don't have to but I also don't want to risk slowing my digestion down when it's always slower after anaesthetic anyway. Especially as I'll be pretty immobile after.

My inclination is not to inject at all but would be interested in anyone who is comfortable sharing what they have been told in relation to MJ and surgery.

MooBaggage · 28/05/2025 09:25

FFS I've started a period today! Makes sense re: the feeling bloody miserable/sore boobs/stomach ache, but honestly - there's no need...!

I'm not worried - have had a couple of hysteroscopies in the past couple of years and all is good - I think it's the MJ buggering about with my hormones, but can do without period dramas at this point in my life 🙄😃

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alwaysscared · 28/05/2025 10:30

@Timetofindme I have been bobbing around the same weight ish for about 2 and a half months now, so frustrating. I’m going to try and stop obsessing so much.
With regards to surgery (I have an operation coming up at the end of June) I have read that the current guidelines say that you don’t need to stop taking MJ, but maybe need to fast a little bit longer than usual. Obviously don’t take my word for it, and I am yet to have my pre op so haven’t been given that advice from my surgical team, I’ve just been keeping up with the guidelines online. Good luck with your surgery, I’m dreading mine. I had a hysterectomy last year, and did not enjoy the coming round part, but I am not good with feeling like I’m in an altered state, wouldn’t even take pain medication when giving birth other than paracetamol, just because I didn’t want to feel weird. I don’t drink either as that gives me the same feeling! My next surgery is a hernia that was caused by my previous surgery 🙄😩

alwaysscared · 28/05/2025 10:32

@MooBaggage one thing that I really don’t miss since my hysterectomy is periods! They made life hell for weeks every month for me. I hope yours isn’t too bad and you start to feel a bit better now it’s started

RobinEllacotStrike · 28/05/2025 11:37

I'm also feeling a bit hormonal. I'm 57 but have yet to go a full year without a period. I haven't noticed any difference re MJ, but I really suffer with the progesterone element of HRT. It makes me very very depressed. So I take it "off book" (but under docs advice) for 2 weeks out of every 12 weeks. By day 6/14 I am feeling utterly miserable but it is the "least worst" option for me. I'm nearly 2 weeks on from taking it and still feeling the effects, though I'm feeling a little better every day.

I want to share my new breakfast - thanks to Instagram which I find quite good for food inspiration.

Steamed Eggs
Whisk 2 or 3 eggs until smooth. Add same amount of cold water as eggs (by volume) & whisk well. Add to bowl, cover bowl, & steam for 10 minutes. The eggs are wobbly but firm & silky smooth.
Add toppings of choice - this morning I added soya sauce, sesame oil, that chilli crunch chilli oil my daughters consume by the bucketload, chopped spring onion, scatter of black sesame seeds.

Delicious, easy, tasty, low cal & high protein. Also super easy to eat on high suppression days.

for more information/inspiration google "Chinese steamed eggs" - looks like some also add chicken stock but I've not tried that yet.

10mg seems to be working really well for me. I had a bit of a blow out on the weekend (someone gave me a box of chocs and I ate them all - yikes), but I've lost another 1.5kg - so close to 90kg and "overweight" BMI now. Maybe next week.

Amazing hot yoga this moring - I've been going to 7 classes a week for 7 months and I can keep up with the best of them. When I started it was a real challenge even to bend forward. I'm feeling such strength. I'm constantly rubbing the back of my thighs these days - always astonished they are all muscle not fat. My legs are becoming so strong, I can actually see where the fat is on my legs and how it is different from the muscle - whereas before my legs were wrap around fat with muscle hidden. I can hold a solid plank no problem and can very nearly do a fully body push up, which I've never done before in my life. While all yoga is delicious with marvellous benefits, the more dynamic forms of yoga really are proper physically stretching workouts, where you use your own bodyweight as the "weights".

I'm deliberately ignoring the delicious peanut butter meantioned upthread.

WeAllHaveWings · 28/05/2025 12:22

I’ve had thyroid and vitamins checked a few months ago, all that came back was very low vit d, but was prescribed a high dose for 15 days, and now on the highest dose you can buy over the counter daily. I take free soul multivitamins and extra vit d daily

@alwaysscared have you checked the rest of your results too? I had mine done recently due to extreme tiredness. I thought losing all this weight and starting HRT and now getting a good 6-7 hours uninterrupted sleep every night I'd be bouncing with energy, but I am still exhausted.

I also have some other symptoms I never tied to a problem until I started looking into it more - vibrations right foot, burning/hot sensation in feet, short sharp shooting pains in groin, scalp, back of arms, thighs, feeling off balance and a few more - all could be related to B12 deficiency nerve damage. Everything I look at keeps taking me back to B12 deficiency, especially after 8 years of omeprazole which impacts B12.

So while my B12 total serum results were within NHS guidelines, lower end folate and high MCH (or MCV cant remember which one right now) points to increased size of red blood cells probably due to B12 deficiency. Dr is not interested and puts my other symptoms down to the niggles of getting older and isn't offering any more help 🤬. NHS don't check for active B12, so I may have a lot of B12 in my blood but my body isn't using it, they are also not really interested in giving B12 injections as they take up a lot of nurse time/cost. I have decided to treat the symptoms rather than the results and I have bought B12 injections and the associated cofactors to do myself as Dr not interested and there is no harm other than to my wallet! I did my 3rd every other day injection this morning, and hoping it helps repair the damage eventually.

There are vitamin B12 and D facebook forums that have files/guides on this stuff and you could share your blood test results with one of the pages to see if they would give you any insights.

Also if taking vitamin pills the type of vitamins you take can help too - B12 is better if it is Methylcobalamin which is the active form and highly bioavailable, rather than the cheaper cyanocobalamin synthetic form, that needs your body to be able to convert it, found in many "supermarket" or big name (Vitabiotics/Perfectil for example) supplements.

Are you taking or getting in your diet Vitamin (K2 - MK7) and magnesium with your vitamin D. Magnesium helps to activate the vit D and vit K2 directs calcium (which vitamin D helps absorb) to you bones/teeth instead of your arteries and soft tissues.

You can tell I've gone down a bit of a rabbit hole with all this, but it is worth investigating further - don't fully trust the NHS low bar for treating deficiencies.

MabelSpan · 28/05/2025 12:54

@RobinEllacotStrike I am 56 and still hormonal without a decent period of no periods and also suffered really badly with the progesterone side of HRT affecting my moods so I now take my utrogestan vaginally. I have done for about a year I think and it saved my sanity and quite possibly the rest of me! I hope you find a way to lessen its effects too😊

RobinEllacotStrike · 28/05/2025 13:23

sympathies @MabelSpan

I did try taking the progesterone vaginally and slowly but surely I became very depressed (don't want to get up, brushing teeth becomes like climbing a mountain etc). Same effect but more gradual.

Really great it works for you & I wish it did for me. It really is the most awful feeling and, like excess weight, has been with me since I went onto hormonal contraceptives late teens. I thought I was a "depressive person" - turns out its just the bloody progesterone. Mirena isn't great for me either.

taking progesterone 2/12 weeks is the compromise but it still affects me for a month at a time. I'm crazy in love with the Oestrogel side of things though.

MabelSpan · 28/05/2025 13:55

RobinEllacotStrike · 28/05/2025 13:23

sympathies @MabelSpan

I did try taking the progesterone vaginally and slowly but surely I became very depressed (don't want to get up, brushing teeth becomes like climbing a mountain etc). Same effect but more gradual.

Really great it works for you & I wish it did for me. It really is the most awful feeling and, like excess weight, has been with me since I went onto hormonal contraceptives late teens. I thought I was a "depressive person" - turns out its just the bloody progesterone. Mirena isn't great for me either.

taking progesterone 2/12 weeks is the compromise but it still affects me for a month at a time. I'm crazy in love with the Oestrogel side of things though.

Its so rubbish being a woman sometimes, just when we hope things will be getting easier its like our hormones are literally trying to kill us. I really empathise with you and hope that you find a way through. Sending hugs😊

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