Mounjaro, 10st or more to lose, thread two

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Starting a new friendly and supportive thread, we’re almost full on the last one.
original thread is here https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight-loss-injections/5226758-mounjaro-10st-or-more-to-lose

Hello@TheZingyFish! I can remember second guessing everything in the first couple of weeks, every twinge resulted in a ‘omg, I’m having a reaction’. I think those feelings are completely normal and valid. I definitely had a bit of a placebo effect, but my first real moment of realising something was working was stopping eating when full with no desire to clear my plate, it was very odd, took about 4 days for that to happen. I didn’t have a huge loss the first week, but that was fine. It will work, trust the process and enjoy ‘your’ journey 😊

Welcome @Motnight, wow 5 stone! That’s amazing 🤩. I know what you mean about the long running ‘starter’ threads, it does get a bit demoralising when everyone is reaching goal weight after losing 3 stone (amazing for them though!), it feels odd feeling so proud about losing those first couple of stones when you’re still multiple stones higher than everyone’s starting weight…

Hi all - this is the thread I feel most comfortable with!

I started in Jan and am now dose 1 of 10mg. I've lost just shy of 2 stone (yay!)

But my weightloss has really slowed down in the last month or so. I tend to calorie cycle and have low cals for the first couple of days after the jab (800-1000) and then up to 1800 by the end of the week.

I just want some advice.

I can't wrap my head around 'eat all your calories' because if I did, firstly I'd be absolutely STUFFED and second, surely the more deficit you are the more weight you lose?

Just getting nervous that this isn't working for me, despite being in a deficit.

Perhaps I need to plug in some exercise? But that still doesn't answer the deficit question, so I'm just confused.

IMO the reason you should eat your calories is to ensure you're getting the nutrients in your food, but also to stop the binge/ restrict cycle. X x x

My doctor says eat if your hungry. I track every morsel I eat so I know if I'm meeting my macros. I supplement where I know I am deficient. I tend to eat a bit more at the weekend and I don't want loose skin so am happy losing half a pound to a pound a week. I am on my way to six stone lost now but it's been two years on WL medication. I think just do what works for you.

NSV! My boss brought doughnuts to work for a meeting today. They were RIGHT NEXT TO ME!

And

I didn’t really want one!

I thought about it. I looked up the calories. And then I made my choice and thought no more of it!

That feels like a win!

The main thing for me isn't thinking of food all the time.

Generally I eat the same things in the week so I know calories wise what I'm eating, on a weekend I'll calorie count but I don't bother noting it down.

If I'm eating something new, or a treat I check the calories and decide if it's worth it. In the past is have just eaten it without thinking.

Weigh in tomorrow, so I'm sure I'll be back to let you all know how I get on!

@mamabeeboo, what’s your definition of ‘slow’? I don’t calorie count, I know roughly what I’m consuming and read labels but am so far refusing to count calories. I do 5:2 fasting as well and have always averaged 2lbs each week. I suppose you could say that I’m calorie cycling as on my fast days I eat one very small evening meal.
definitely yay to two stone off though!
My understanding around eating your calories is if you go too low for too long it disrupts or can disrupt your metabolism and you don’t want a low metabolism as that will slow weight loss.

Weigh in number 27
SW 21st 9lb (BMI 44.8)
CW 17st 6lb (BMI 36.0)
GW 11st 9lb (BMI 24.1)
1lb down this week

Losses so far; 4, 1, 5, 1, 3, 4, 2, 2, 2, 4, 1, +3, 5, 1, 3, 2, 4, 3, 1, 1, 3, 1, 1, 3, 3, 1, 1

Total loss 59lbs / 4st 3lb

Weigh in and jab day.

SW 137KG BMI 53.5
CW 117.5 KG BMI 45.9
GW 60KG BMI 23.4

So just a pound down but I am still full of psyllium husk despite significantly increasing my fluid intake. I'm not even sure how I am losing weight as food is going in but once in it never leaves! Just ordered some movicol so I will see if that helps.

Starting to notice that my rings are getting looser. My wedding ring hasnt come off in years. It still wont come off but no longer looks as tight.

Well done @WafflingDreamer and @GnomeDePlume!

earlier this week I’d lost 1.5lbs. Now it’s only 0.75lbs. So still a loss but not as good a one as I was hoping for! Still, that’s the risk of daily weighing! And I don’t actually WI till Saturday.

next week I’m away at my mum’s who doesn’t have scales. So I’ll be forced to go cold turkey on not weighing. Probably a good thing…

Ah well!

In other news, I was reading a recipe for Bircher muesli. Apparently with 3/4 cup of almond milk and half a cup of oats the recipe blogger thought it would be around 250 calories. Which is utter fantasy!! I’ve made it as directed and it’s worked out to over 400 calories a portion! We’ll see what results, I may not eat all of it. Annoying though.

Weighed this morning.

SW 142.8kg / 22 stone, 6 lb and 13.12 oz
CW 96.8kg / 15 stone, 3 lb and 6.52 oz

Lost 1.5kg / 3.31 lb
Total loss 46kg / 7 stone, 3 lb and 6.6 oz
Still to go 36.8kg / 5 stone, 11 lb and 2.08 oz

The little pointer on my BMI tracker finally moved as it's now under 35 NSV!

In other news I've woken up so so hungry so will eat my breakfast as soon as I get to work!

Wow that's amazing. You are doing such a great job. When did you start?

Look at all those amazing losses today, well done you lot! And another 7 stoner in the ranks ☺️
@WafflingDreamer you’ve got a 3 &1 pattern going on there!

I bought a dress from Run & Fly a while ago and I absolutely love it (it’s a really quirky print) bought it in a size 24, tried it on this morning and it swamps me, I should be ecstatic but I feel a bit sad. The said dress is no longer in stock, I might look into dress alterations (haven’t ever done that before) but the thought of going in to somewhere to be measured is really daunting 😔
this is the dress, it has a side zip so I don’t know if that’s going to make it tricky?

Oh its a gorgeous dress. I don't know anything about alterations but I'm sure someone will be able to help.

My pattern seems to be 3, 1, 1, 3. It drives me crazy I'd rather just have a consistent 2lb a week. At least I'm losing!!

@TragicMuse that's annoying about the muesli.

It does make me wonder how many healthy living, weightloss programmes etc have a deliberately built in failure mechanism:

• slimming world has its 'syns' and a tuck shop.

- weight watchers points used to be easily gamed.

• complete meal replacement VLC diets can't be sustained long term.
• cabbage soup diet, well, cabbage soup.

With each, the participants are almost certainly going to fall off the programme. When they do, the creator/distributor of the programme will make the participants feel it is their own fault. They were weak, lazy, greedy, whatever.

At no point does anyone say that the programme is at fault, that it is designed to fail. Assuming the programme is a commercial venture it needs participants to fail. They will keep coming back to try and fail again. They will buy the latest tie-in recipe book, new flavour 'healthy snack'.

We can see this in the antacid business. They weren't interested in the causes of stomach ulcers. They had a very lucrative business treating the symptoms.

Thank you, I started end of July 2024. App says target November 2025 but it keeps changing!

My app does that all the time too, in the beginning the date kept coming forwards and now my losses have settled it keeps going back which is depressing

Completely agree wrt the weight loss businesses. And it builds the slim publics view that we can just do X or Y and it will work like it did for Joe Bloggs.. And we go down that same cycle of shame and failure when it doesn't.

Its been so damaging to me over the years and I'm still anxious about the "end" of MJ and how much dose I'd need to maintain/financially etc as originally I thought I'd do it for 2 years and that would "reset" me somehow but now I'm thinking I can only do this without the constant hunger...

But as an aside what's the antacids issue. I've been taking occasionally with MJ (or pepto bismol which I've recently discovered).

Pre MJ I was all about the microbiome and not taking any tablets if I could help it but now I'm doing whatever I need to do to get through... And lose the weight...

19 8 today so 2 stone and a bit. Each week I'm chopping a bit more off.

Oh and while I'm here I completely agree with a pp who said it's disheartening reading some of the threads where people have "made it" in 3-6 months and that's it, I'm so glad of this thread.

Today WW have declared bankruptcy.

There's a guy "Liam, Rebel Fit" who says EXACTLY this. If you are on WW/SW and you come back because it "worked the last time", then it didn't work. They don't teach you how to eat healthily, push the ready meals on you and there are several people gaining and losing the same 1lb every week. I remember going to WW and asking where the fruit was!!! And the lady blushed and was like "oh good idea!" One of the guys at work started SW last year and the instructor asked "what weight would you like to be", and he asked what is a healthy weight for him? The instructor replied "oh I have no idea, never been asked that before!!" 🙄

The SW founder said in a business interview, that they make their money from the 'returning customer'.

I just hate the gaslighting in the whole food industry. About how the larger people have no discipline, greedy, no self control etc and it's just rude and horrible. If you put the fork down you will lose weight. I have cried over this, personal trainers providing me meal plans but still feeling hungry, not understanding what I am doing wrong, why am I such a failure.

It's so much deeper than that, and these jabs are a credit to that because we, who didn't have the 'dicipline' - look at us losing weight. So it was never about that.

I feel like I have a chance now and the first time I am hopeful.

@Iwouldratherbesinging I think if seamstresses can alter wedding dresses, then they should be able to do your dress :)

Gnome and Mama, those two posts strike right to my heart.

i used to follow rebelfit though he was slightly militant about the ‘you have time, no excuses’ thing - ummm, not when my husband worked lates, we had NO family to do childcare and our child was adopted so needed me, not a carer or a babysitter.

Anyway, that aside, yes, absolutely. I totally agree.

Morning everyone!
today is jab day…. Still on 5mg but I seem to be happy with that for the moment…

week 15 ? Maybe 🤔 first jab was the 10th jan .

starting weight 305lb ( bmi 51 )
current weight. 274 lb (bmi 45)

hit my latest mini target of 275 this week which I’m over the moon with- I’m thinking of a new one….. I was going to go with 250 lb - it will take a while but probably a good summer holiday goal.

haven’t set a goal weight as it’s too daunting and every lb is a win .

(hubby lost another 2lb this week- he’s going slow and steady)

Right, just made a spread sheet to track my weight loss (geeky I know!), but it makes for some grim reading when I look at my targets...

SW 133.8kg / 295lbs
33.8kg / 74.5lbs to my first main target of 100kg (25.3% to lose)
61.6kg / 135.8 lbs to a Healthy BMI (46% to lose)

I always knew this was a going to be a long journey, but seeing it written down is scarey!

Quick question. Does everyone stick with the same providers, or switch for the best prices? I dont want any of the extra support etc that some providers offer, I just want the pen. So it seems silly not to shop around, but is it worth the hassle?

Also (sorry that's 2 questions 😁) , does anyone use Medicine Marketplace?