OK I'm convinced, weight-loss drugs are Incredible and will change the world

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DH has been on them for a couple of months and they've changed our lives for the better. He's an over eater/ mild binger and generally quite obsessed with food. Never managed to keep weight off.

Now he's happy, calm, doesn't think about food, eats like a 'normal person' and it's freed up so much space and joy in our lives.

Apparently in the future it'll be a pill you can either take that day or not, e.g. Most days but not Christmas day. Incredible!

Yes I know people get side effects and they don't work for everyone, etc. But I'm very impressed.
Apparently they also help alcoholics and other addicts as they work on the reward centre's of the brain. Amazing.

I’ve been on them for 18 months and have lost 2.7 st. I was bmi 27 but with very high BP and severe pain from osteoarthritis. No matter how I tried for some reason my weight was static. For the first time in my adult life I’ve lost weight, my BP is normal (still on lots of medication for it but up till losing weight, even 4 drugs wasn’t controlling it) and can walk much easier and with less pain and tiredness. I’m on a maintenance dose of 0.5 of Wegovy for another 4 months, then will have a review. I am really scared about stopping though and being unable to maintain my present weight.

I’ve been very lucky with side effects. Apart from constipation (why I struggle with anyhow ), nothing else has been a problem. For me they’ve been amazing.

Do you, really?

In what sense? What leads you to that sense of doom about it?

@Auberg thats such a great description. I love great food but my relationship with it is so much healthier now. I have to get nutrition from less food so choose more carefully. I avoid fatty processed quick fixes as I'm not hungry so have more time to cook. I'm learning to slow down and listen to my body. I'm super happy and so glad that I've started as it's scary, but not as scary as the consequences of long term obesity

What sort of thing are you anticipating?

What I won't have wrong with me is morbid obesity which is a massive win in terms of health risks.

Once you start, you can use it all the way down to a healthy BMI (and then stay on it). You don't have to come off when you go under 30 BMI. So people start at 30+ BMI but may still be on jt at 23/24 etc.

It's 27 BMI to start I believe if you have been diagnosed with weight-related health conditions.

I would take Sharon with a pinch of salt. When the drug leaves your system, hunger returns. There is no mechanism for it to supress your apatite when it isn't in your body. I suspect she is still dieting, won't stop but can't admit that, so claims the drug has destroyed her apetite. Sadly it doesn't work like that. Hunger returns.

Or you have a body that just never gets food noises?

Pancreatitis for a start. I read an article about that being linked to the jabs recently. There’s been an increase in younger people getting this after taking the jabs.

She was right to call it medically-induced anorexia. There are very few cases of it persisting after stopping the drug, though. Sharon Osbourne says it did for her. There's good reason to think she's had anorexia before, though: that must be a risk factor.

@Garlicwest Sharon Osbourne deliberately misusing Ozempic and making various public claims does not make an effective case for anorexia as a possible adverse consequence for these types of medications. Not a single case has been mentioned as a result of any of the clinical trials.

Do you worry about people on all the other novel drugs that enter the market every year. Or just these?

No. They are just inflating their BMI.

I was idly wondering if people who just have half a stone to lose- like me- will become obsolete?

It’s amazing to read so many happy users. In response to the OP title, they will change the world but if we think the huge food industry is going to sit back and let it’s fat cash cows simply slim themselves away then you’ve got another thing coming.

There will be disinformation campaigns and people on forums like this to confuse users and create doubt because essentially these jabs are slowing consumption of foods, snacks, alcohol, fast food, delivery drivers, suppliers, restaurants etc. Obese / unhealthy people are a multi billion pound industry and corporations would like to keep their profits healthier than their customers.

Interesting to see the effects on drinkers, it’s amazing to think people are not only slimming down but also cutting out such a huge toxin in alcohol.

Keep it up everyone!

You are wrong.

It's the absolute opposite of anorexia.

Anorexics are obsessed with food and can't stop thinking about it. They are forever weighing it, working out the calorific content, working out their energy usage etc..

This is the complete opposite in that it stops you thinking about food obsessively. The food noise that is described is exactly what an anorexic experiences at a high level the entire time. These injections stop that noise.

I weigh a shit load think biggest size and I can't get it on the NHS it's a fallacy . They are only giving ut out to diabetes patients. My trust defo not yet I woukd be acceptable for stomach surgery but they won't because if my psychological issues

My bmi is above 40 and nope you can't get it on the NHS only if you have diabetes its a fallacy that you can I have asked loads now

A bit sad people have come so far in evolution, now needing to waste so much resources and research into how to stop ourselves from getting fat.

Just do it; that is what the online pharmacy is for + the GPs are no longer referring people to access the drugs in our area; they are completely overwhelmed

I really wish I could try them and yes I'm jealous of people who can

I just have so many autoimmune issues, am immunocompromised and already on 2 separate injections for various things... I don't feel I can risk trying them

How are the GPS referring any way it's only for those with diabetes i have asked my GP loads as i woukd have been asked as they can see I am very heavy

Anyone who gets it when they are under 30 bmi, are not using the medication as it was designed, and very likely buying a counterfeit product

I had a BMI of 27 when I started. I was 10st. 5 and am 5’ tall. I was assessed by Juniper. I sent full body pics and had to list all my health conditions, medications and have an assessment first. I am now 8 st 2 and bmi of 21. The first time in my adult life I have not been overweight and not had difficult to control BP. My GP knows I am on wegovy and I have blood and urine tests every 6 months. They are really happy with my improved BP, cholesterol and ability to exercise more. I’m pretty sure Juniper is a reputable company.

It says before you request a private prescription “have you ever had a diagnosed eating disorder….” So so easy to click no. I have had one in the past and worried it would trigger me. But the opposite happened. I felt a sense of control over that, instead of what I ate. Having the jab wasn’t making ME go back there (if that makes sense). Probably not the case for everyone but eating disorders usually stem from a lack of control. Using that injection by choice, gave me control…. Hard to explain but I’m just one case. Someone with an ongoing issue with food might feel differently.

Funny to me that a drug is created for anything else, and it's immediately called a miracle.

Create a drug that helps obesity and it's all 'oh what about xyz' blah blah blah

We all know it's not about health, and it's about how you feel about obese people and how you think they deserve to suffer.

@H34th we're not as evolved as we think we are, and certainly our bodies still function like any other animal. We have civilised our way, in developed nations, out of starvation and scarcity. We have abundant easy sources of food. Animals with abundant easy sources of food will tend to gorge. Humans are no different.

The research isn't wasted. It's helped diabetics massively, these medications may also prove useful for many other medical conditions. It would be an odd reaction to refuse to research novel medications because it might be a waste of resources.