OK I'm convinced, weight-loss drugs are Incredible and will change the world

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DH has been on them for a couple of months and they've changed our lives for the better. He's an over eater/ mild binger and generally quite obsessed with food. Never managed to keep weight off.

Now he's happy, calm, doesn't think about food, eats like a 'normal person' and it's freed up so much space and joy in our lives.

Apparently in the future it'll be a pill you can either take that day or not, e.g. Most days but not Christmas day. Incredible!

Yes I know people get side effects and they don't work for everyone, etc. But I'm very impressed.
Apparently they also help alcoholics and other addicts as they work on the reward centre's of the brain. Amazing.

Wasn't lottie a coke addict ( may still be)?
So not exactly a paragon of health is she.

No, that's not what I meant. I was talking partly about the USA, but I didn't mean without a prescription. I meant paying cash for the medication itself. The pharmacist has no idea if you lied to a doctor to get the prescription. The prescription is legitimate. It's just more expensive. 90 days worth cost my insurance $2,988.52.

I take Mounjaro; I'm not fear mongering about the drug. I'm just pointing out that capitalism and demand can find a way.

i just read that Lottie moss article that woman is an absolute tool .

so she took a higher dose than she should ever have taken, she doesn’t know it’s approved for weight loss thinks it’s for diabetes only, got it from a mate, and wasn’t even over weight.

amd she’s warning people? Seriously what a tool.

As someone who had uncontrolled diabetes due to a food addiction that has now disappeared literally overnight since I started taking MJ, I can tell you that I'll take any side effects of MJ over amputation, blindness and all the other nasties that can result from diabetes.

I just wish I had known about it sooner.

And as for cost, although I get mine free on the NHS I'd happily pay a few hundred quid a month if I couldn't. Since losing interest in food my food bill has halved, when I go out to eat dinner in a restaurant I'm usually taking home a doggy bag so 2 meals for the price of 1 and I have pretty much stopped buying snacks, sarnies etc when out and about so probably saving a good £100 a month on that alone.

Yes I was thinking that too.

@Wimin123 why would you think there's any significant overlap between people who were suspicious of the covid vaccination and people who are choosing to pay for weight loss injections?

Also I have spent all my teens and adult life trying to lose weight. Other methods have not worked. Including paying for Noom membership, Second Nature, so many books, audiobooks, fitness gubbins... and so on and so on. Using weight loss injections has been the most cost effective and actually effective out of all of them.

Think again.

This also confused me as to where this data is coming from oh the overlap.

Logically, it would seem more likely that those who refused to take the COVID vacc are also anti-WLI, rather than what's suggested here 🤷 Either way, there's no evidence, other than anti-vaccers, of all types, having an aversion to science and empirical evidence.

I'm very confused by this logic. Why would the people who are going out of their way to pay for injections likely to be the same group of people who are anti-vaxxers suspicious of 'Big Pharma'?

What has a vaccine got to do with weight loss medication? 🥴

@HollyKnight
Nothing! It's just the latest entry on the bingo card 😅

Clearly, logic isn't one of their strong suits either and I'm not surprised given how they fare on these threads.

It follows that the anti vaxxer types have difficulty with scientific evidence and don't appear to be up to weighing up risk/ benefits of the intervention, so are also more likely to be anti-WLI

WLI users are well educated on the topic and have made well-informed decisions in order to proceed with WLI

I don't think WLI users and anti vaxxer venn diagrams overlap at all

I wonder if people would be this concerned if we were taking pills rather than injections. Because I don't remember people being this riled up about Orlistat/Xenical (which also has fun side effects 💩).

I think so probably. Shitting orange goo atleast once a day should bring out a lot of the naysayers but since it's in tablet form and there isn't this much parade about how genuinely effective it is, they don't care. It's probably more about how effective with proof MJ is, so they need to rain on that parade with their tragic prediction for between 20 and 100 years.

Suspect that’s because the level of success on the injectables is high. So no one really cared when folks were taking drugs that made them shit goo and didn’t really lose any weight.

the issue is it works.

If you're taking Orlistat and firing hot orange liquid out of your butt every day then you're suffering penance for your weight loss and so deserve redemption. As WLI are pretty much painless you're not suffering enough to be redeemed and you're just cheating.

I was hoping not to have to mention the piles I now have from the constipation.

Ah no
You mustn't just do penance
You must also be unsuccessful in losing the weight- which is the case with orlistat
Mounjaro is a problem because it works and can eradicated obesity
Goodness knows they don't want that!!

No one was envious of orlistat, as it made you shit yourself if you strayed from the diet. And very few lost weight, they just randomly shit themselves on the regular and stayed fat. Who’d envy that.

with injectables, most have little to no side effects, they are usually easily manageable if you do have them, and well worth it in comparison to the weight loss, reduction in food noise, improved health markers, increased energy etc.

so of course some people will be envious, because that’s a whole other ballgame.

Oh there definitely is an element of jealousy involved. It's not fair that fat people got to enjoy all the yummy food slimmer people deny themselves and now the consequences of their choice can be undone with an injection.

It's such a narrow-minded and inaccurate view of the cause of obesity.

I think penance and suffering is a large part of it to be honest. Incidentally - I found orlistat easier to cope with in terms of side effects than Mounjaro where I get eggy burps and the runs post-jab most weeks. Reason I'm sticking those out is simple - it's working.

As for 20 years down the line - if I don't drop the weight I won't be here 20 years time.

I find gaviscon helps with the sulphur burps. It's always the day after for me when that horrible taste kicks in.

It will be a while before the bigger picture becomes known about long-term side- or after-effects. One emerging side-effect is unplanned pregnancies...

Now, the discovery of these pregnancies, as evidenced in Facebook groups like "I got pregnant on Ozempic", Reddit threads and anecdotal stories from doctors, has caused some alarm.

The prospect of unexpected pregnancy is both delightful — for those who have struggled with their fertility and longed for a baby — and extremely troubling, for those who don't want kids. The real problems lie in the complete lack of data about what happens if you take these drugs before and during conception, and what the impact on the fetus might be. ...

Dr Andrea Shields, the vice chair of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists' committee on clinical guidelines for obstetric care told the New York Times that, until more research is conducted on humans, "we're all just kind of holding our breath".

It's an interesting read.

Millions are racing to get hold of Ozempic. But when women are accidentally falling pregnant, shouldn't we be more sceptical? - ABC News