OK I'm convinced, weight-loss drugs are Incredible and will change the world

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DH has been on them for a couple of months and they've changed our lives for the better. He's an over eater/ mild binger and generally quite obsessed with food. Never managed to keep weight off.

Now he's happy, calm, doesn't think about food, eats like a 'normal person' and it's freed up so much space and joy in our lives.

Apparently in the future it'll be a pill you can either take that day or not, e.g. Most days but not Christmas day. Incredible!

Yes I know people get side effects and they don't work for everyone, etc. But I'm very impressed.
Apparently they also help alcoholics and other addicts as they work on the reward centre's of the brain. Amazing.

@MarvellousMonsters "Take responsibility. Learn about nutrition. Eat real food, stop filling up on crappy carbs and UPF. No injections or tablets needed."

Funnily enough that hasn't worked for people for decades, hence the obesity issue in society. It's so patronising to say "learn about nutrition". What do you imagine that I don't know about nutrition? Or that you need to learn too, given that you say you binge on sweet things and then hate yourself? Why can't you follow your own advice?? And yet you expect others to follow the advice that you can't even stick to. Hmm.

You're enjoying watching people put weight back on?

Not at all. I’m waiting to see if there are long term health effects from the drugs since they are quite new. I wish everyone losing weight on them the very best.

@AnnieSnap @Flidina
Anyone who's lost weight, by any method, worries about re-gaining the weight. Most who lose weight, by any method, go on to regain. WLI are no different in that respect, if you stop taking them, so why all the faux concern and keeness to 'watch from the sidelines' when you don't take them yourself? Do you do that on the Weight watchers board? It seems a bit weird.

Are you worried about other miraculous drugs being 'too good to be true' and drooling with anticipation while you wait for adverse side effects to emerge? Rapamycin,Trikafta, Herceptin? Were you concerned when Viagra became an OTC drug (over 200 deaths in the UK alone)? You do know that drug trials are more rigorous than they've ever been? And that these types of drugs have been in use for 20 years?

It's bizarre that people who have no skin in the game and have done zero research, think that their views are so important, educated and right that all us foolish women are just sitting here (on a board specifically for users of WLI), waiting to be put right by them.

Tried Wegovy and about four days after the very first injection I suffered terrible anxiety and continuous panic attacks and I then collapsed. Ended up at the doctor's who gave me beta blockers to calm me down. I can't find any information on why this happened and it doesn't seem to be a recognised side effect. I thought it was going to be the answer to my prayers but unfortunately not. I envy all you lucky users and weight losers!

Oh FFS, what is wrong with MN these days. Your comments and question are bloody weird.

I watching from the sidelines to see what the longer term effects of these drugs are since they are new. As someone who has had a gastric bypass, I have a very good understanding of what obese people go through and I have a great deal of empathy.

Wind your bloody neck in!

So what exactly are you enjoying watching from the sidelines'? Ah right. Seen your update. It doesn't sound particularly empathetic to be enjoying watching whether there's long term negative consequences

@AnnieSnap
You quoted a post, full of uneducated, illogical, unsupported nonsense, and said you agreed with it. I'm free to respond to you both.

Where have I said that I’m enjoying anything?

The post I agreed with made some reasonable points. You and @DarkForces are being very easily triggered and seeing enemies where there are none. I’m guessing you are anxious about your own weight and defensive about your choices. I understand that. I’ve been there too, but I’m not going to keep engaging with this. I have said what I want to say and I have a football match to watch. Take the tablets, don’t take the tablets. I don’t care.

@AnnieSnap fgs it's not even tablets!

Nope

A drug literally does fix it

Hopefully soon available on the NHS

An example about how some of these things are innate: I have 3 children. Obviously they have all grown up with the same things being served. I won't tell you I'm a health food person, but everything is cooked from scratch, plenty of fruit & veg, lots of variety, I don't buy things like biscuits and crisps but I do bake.

My oldest? Always been a solidly built child and now adult, a bit overweight but not obese, and a good eater aside from a "white diet" phase. She's genuinely more hungry. My thinking has always been that you might eat sweets just because they're there, but if you're taking leftover chicken out of the fridge or making yourself an omelette, you're actually hungry and that's what she does.

My youngest? (it's a bit goldilocks and the three bears here!) Autistic, more limited diet. He just doesn't feel hungry and has to be reminded to eat, which he needs to do, because he's underweight. He does consume fewer calories, but the dietary quality is lower.

@MarvellousMonsters Another way to end ignorance on this subject is to get yourself up to speed on the latest science on the subject of obesity, why it's at epidemic levels, and why even when people successfully lose the weight and are happy, 95% of them regain it.

But hang on, I'm assuming that you think those 95% are just thick, greedy and lazy? Is that it? So sorry that the science doesn't back up your prejudices. I guess you think the scientists are just fabricating the science to make us feel better and sell us drugs? Thought so.

You're the one who needs to learn.
A lot to learn
Evident from your ignorant post

I think its easier said than done - people, and I'm including myself here, have tried all sorts of diets, eating healthy, doing lots and lots of exercise. And for whatever reason it doesn't stick.

Now, some say laziness, lack of willpower and a whole host of things that blame the person - without actually helping them.

But this helps and I'd argue - if you looked at how much a person could send on takeaways for example it could add up to nearly £150...I know it was for me and my wife and so we've been using it since August - we've both lost over 3 stone a piece and are feeling great, we have no interest in stopping.

I agree with you.

I'm someone with an addictive personality.

I've managed to quit smoking and drinking after years and years of miserable recidivism.

Food had become my nemesis. I was eating healthy whole natural foods. I just couldn't not eat the right amount without ravenous hunger. After a decade of not being able to keep weight off, I'm on mounjaro (privately).

It's changed my life. It's like a miracle.

For those still banging on about "eat less, move more" or "no-one fat came out of Belsen", they clearly haven't seen any of the research showing that weight loss has been a largely pointless, effortful, time consuming and expensive losing game for most overweight people.

I don't care about being judged by ignorant people any more.

They stopped me being interested in my children and partner.
I had no libido and was slightly disinterested in life.
They also made me so constipated I ended up in hospital...

I think I'll just eat less and not take weird jabs.. but you crack on.

@eqpi4t2hbsnktd I'm sorry you had such an awful time using a GLP-1 injection, but you must surely realise that your reaction is unusual and not a common occurrence? The injections aren't any more or less "weird" than other medical treatments.

Okay fine. Injections. I knew that and made a mistake typing it up. Shoot me!

What was the journey in getting the meds? Did his Dr prescribe for him? Or did he source it himself?

You can get it legally at Boots or online pharmacists. Although, you do have to be a certain wait and send a picture. Perhaps you dont need the injections, maybe the tablets instead.

They’ve been used by patients for over 20 years now in different formats, and were in testing for decades before.

bit odd really,

We are not all born and live on the same playing field of life.

In simplest terms calories in versus calories out is the formulae to lose weight. However, this equation is being sold as one size fits all. We know this isn’t true and the world is getting fatter.

Personally, I will take any drug which helps me maintain a functional body and when my end is near I will happily take any death concoction on offer too.

MJ is a drug I am so grateful for.

For the newbies to the thread.. we’ve heard it all before 😂