Mounjaro February to April 24 starters - Thread 2

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Thread 2

Link to last thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight-loss-injections/5139634-mounjaro-february-to-april-24-starters?page=1

For anyone who's a bit of a night owl, Petrie Hoskin is having a discussion and phone in re flab.

It's on until 01:00 on Talk Radio, also live version on YouTube.

@chouxchoux I was just thinking you should complain.

I doubt she would have been so judgy about any other topic. Why is it that topic of weight loss drugs brings out the worst in people!

@KrankyKumquat I've lost similar and I'm the same. I think my weight has gone from waist, bum and wrists! I've only dropped 1 dress size.

Annoying isn't it? My watch strap has moved 2 notches, none of my rings will stay on and you could peg washing out on my clavicles. But I just want a waist.

Sorry super late to reply to this! Yes this makes sense re clothes sizing. Everything must be baggy due to fashion! I was thinking if someone was really a 2XS then the hoodie would drown them! I no way feel I am that small at all! It's just like a tight fitting hoodie rather than a loose one! Also it's a bit cropped. Hate that cropped seems to be fashionable at the moment.

Sorry you can't feel happy about your new body. Maybe it's just getting used to the new you? Hope you feel more comfortable soon! Without feeling like you need surgery.

@@chouxchoux
If nothing else, complaining will make you feel better! During the riots in the summer, I was in the queue at Next and could hear the woman serving us extolling the virtues and good sense of Tommy Robinson to the young woman customer she was dealing with (who looked rather embarrassed but didn't say anything to challenge her). I really enjoyed writing my complaint email to Next Head Office, it was far more satisfying than arguing with racists on Twitter.

@KrankyKumquat I had similar at a Tesco check out a couple of years ago. V gobby employee loudly declaiming virtues of Trump, dissing Biden (she was a Brit, I mean WTF?) (and I am American) So I told her to stop criticising my President, which shut her up. Wanted to complain, but how do you find an actual manager in Tescos?
Back on topic, I have calculated that I have now lost 17% of my body weight in six months, so that’s something…

Another shorty checking in.
5'3 and have been 25.something BMI for ages it seems. I am 10st 4lbs and my goal is 9st 12 I think but Nutracheck wants me to be lower. I'm already trying to decide whether I just stop thinking about weight loss and focus on maintaining. I've done 3 months on 10mg and have just started 12.5mg (but using a 10mg pen!) but it's all just so slow now. And honestly I'm happy enough with my size as a 12-14 and am worried I'll struggle to maintain it I actually get "slim". But then I think maybe I'm believing too many of the "you must stop now" people because I'm bored of it all!
It's all messing with my head a bit. A discussion with a friend and DH has also made me consider that the excess skin is probably 7lb or so, so I may well be healthy now 'technically'. I can convince myself of anything!!

So I have 3 more weeks of 12.5mg and a 7.5mg in the fridge. I have a £40 credit on MedExpress to use so will buy one more 10mg I think and then I have to decide whether I move to Oushk and start a proper maintenance plan. I want to stay on low dose for the foreseeable finances depending - I'm happier from a balanced mood/hormones (?) point of view and have a high chance of developing hereditary dementia at a young age so the research in this area is swaying me considerably.

I'm at a decision point and totally stuck!

@NCfor24
Ooh another person looking at long term MJ due to risk of dementia. I was thinking I was the only one. This has been hanging over me for years but as I approach 60, the urgency has really ramped up but I'm feeling more optimistic than ever.
I'm about 4lb off initial 11st target, bmi 23, 2nd month on 10 with another 10 in the fridge then I'll be on maintenance with Oushk - aiming to get down to 2.5, then trial spreading out dose or taking sub 2.5 dose over the subsequent months. I'm in this for the very long term so want to find as low a dose as possible until science catches up and we get a better idea of what dose is optimal. I'm confident Hira at Oushk will work with me on this - she's all for personalised treatment as long as she's involved and fully kept informed. The difficulty is knowing how best to manage and reduce a theoretical risk prior to symptoms emerging but I think we'll learn a lot more in the coming few years, especially via the US

@KrankyKumquat it's fascinating isn't it. My sister tells me that dementia is considered diabetes type 3 and so it makes absolute sense Mounjaro could be preventative.
My grandmother had Alzheimer's and my mother is 73 and was diagnosed with mixed Alzheimer's and vascular dementia about 4 years ago - her decline has been incredibly rapid. I find myself thinking I've only got until I'm 70 and it's incredibly depressing... My retirement age is beyond that! I am definitely thinking a low dose for life has to worth a shot and the cost is insignificant considering the potential benefits.

@NCfor24
Yes it's very exciting. Mine is Parkinsons and vascular dementia (mum and maternal grandmother, who knows who else further back?)
If you're into podcasts, have a look at Fat Science with Dr Emily Cooper. She did one episode on dementia and Alzheimers.

I just had a meeting with a colleague I started working with in the summer, and before we started the meeting proper we were just talking about our gym activities. I said my focus was on moving my fat into muscle and she said 'there isn't an ounce of fat on you'. Which is palpably (literally) untrue. But it's the first time someone has ever talked to me as a 'thin' person. It felt so weird.

I was in the office yesterday and someone walking behind me said "you really need to go clothes shopping" which was a kind way to tell me that my jumper was hanging off me! (It looks mean written down but it was meant with love!)

I've had a lot of people telling me they can see how much weight I've lost (well, given it is 6 stone that isn't surprising).

However I'm currently in a bit of a stall as I head towards a BMI of 24 and I'm still a bit meh. The last couple of nights my dinner has been water biscuits with margarine, it's been ages since I've had carbs like that (the odd bowl of pasta or pizza but never snacky things) so that felt weird. And it was mainly because I'm just so sick of vegetable soup and Skyr yogurt. I'll get back on track soon, it's not like I've been overdoing it.

I think I've just counted 3 anti WLJ threads on AIBU tonight.

It's going to be the new private school frothers topic!

There was a thing on Jeremy Vine about it today. I only caught 5 mins of it and whoever the lady speaking was just sounded like she was spouting Daily Mail comments sections. Talking about someone saying they needed a knee operation but had to lose weight and she was like 'just stop eating' - sure, because it's that easy

@NCfor24 I'm the same height and weight as you and I mainly go up and down the same pound or two as I'm fed up of dieting now. I'm not sure I'll make it to 10st to scrape bmi25. The lowest I've been is 10st 3lb 6oz but only stayed at that for a day 🙄.

I like the weight I am at now but I do have a lot of jiggle and my stomach looks like it's melted. I've never managed to get around to trying to build more muscle either. I still have 4 full pens in the fridge but it feels like I'm wasting it now as I'm eating so badly.

This isn't a humble brag I promise. Just tried on a suit that I've been hoping to get back into for a long long time. Well its too big. I think it would be fine if I didn't have "mounjaro bum" but without my bum the trousers just hang off me! I'll be on vinted trying to track down a smaller size if you need me!

Same here 50lbs down in 6 months but everything still fits clothes wise some of it is a bit baggier but nothing is too big at the moment. Still have another 50 to loose though. I think everything body wise has shrunk just a little bit which is why it's so hard for me to notice a huge difference. Other people have started noticing now though.

People who are larger have more muscle. When you lose weight without weight bearing exercise your body often loses muscle and bone mass too. You need to lose, approx, 1 stone of fat for every size drop. Can only do that by building lean muscle and eating fewer carbs so your body tries to metabolise it’s fat stores.

A wise person on these threads once said to think of a toilet roll. When you first use it you can use quite a lot without it looking much smaller! Towards the end it takes a lot less to shrink it visibly. I definitely looked fairly similar and wore the same clothes until about halfway along.

Oh my stomach is a mess and I think the tops of my thighs sort of hang down my legs. Beautiful!
I've decided to calorie count my last half stone away. Or try at least. Wine has crept back in so maybe that's what's stopping me losing. I had a few glasses on holiday in August then forgot I wasn't on holiday anymore ever since! On a positive note I can maintain 144/145lbs easily enough with the odd treat so hopefully this is a good sign for maintenance.

I've realised that I'm eating more or less normally now. Smaller portion sizes than before, and definitely less booze, but nothing that I can't sustain. I'm still on 7.5mg for another few weeks till my pens run out, but I'm not suppressed much by the end of each week.

@ThirdStorm I has a similar experience yesterday. I have a favourite pair of boot-cut black jeans that I thought were flattering. I just tried them on & they are way too baggy! Not sure what to do, all normal jeans now oversize, only legging/jeggings still fit.
I see to have disproportionately lost below the waist. Most of my tops still fit, though roomier. I have been a gym bunny for last two years, so have probably bulked up in shoulders. I just bought (a very exciting, drum roll, please) wool base layer in size 12 which fits fine. I am content with that. No idea what trouser size will end up, I am still shopping my wardrobe, but have run out of jeans options.
Topic shift - the whole furore over obese unemployed getting WL jabs has been handled badly. V unlikely to be rolled out en mass, I suspect the NHS would insist -rightly so- that they go through the weight management programme. The issue is that is underfunded. I would imagine that people so obese they cannot work would qualify for co-morbidities now. The issue is access.

@Moanranger
I think the problem is that the anti-Labour media have completely misrepresented what actually happened yesterday. All that happened was the that an EL led and funded trial of a few thousand Manchester residents was announced. Amongst other things, the trial will look at whether WLM can help some of the trial participants lose weight and improve their health and, as a result, find it possible to return to work/take fewer days off work sick.
The response was the usual anti-fat, anti-unemployed bigotry and hysteria. Suddenly, Streeting and Starmer are about to hand out free WL jabs to anyone who's unemployed and over weight, the poor tax payers will be left to pay for it while the elderly die in their homes from the cold. It's very depressing.

Yep, the twisting mad turning they do so they can bash it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

The thread the other night where a woman admitted to being jealous because she's always had to work to stay slim and now we can just a jab and we're instantly stones lighter 🙄 also people admitting they are annoyed because all they care about is that they are slim and therefore superior and won't be anymore 🤣 of that's all you have going for you, well that's not us fatties fault!

Can someone check my maths... I am freaking out over here. I have lost 5 stone now, 70lbs!?