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Continuing Mounjaro... Part 21

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Jimmyneutronsforehead · 03/09/2024 07:17

Welcome to thread 21.

Please fill up thread 20 before starting this thread.

Massive congratulations to any one who lost even a little bit over the past few weeks, and hello to any one who is new to the threads or is just taking the leap into starting their mounjaro journey.

If you are new I do recommend visiting the older threads for advice as there are some wonderful pointers and resources that will help you on your journey.

Pointers for newbies:

Please note: Mounjaro will only be be prescribed initially if your BMI is above 30. If you have additional health conditions you can get the medication with a BMI 27. (Prediabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol or heart problems)

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Fromthesidelines · 07/09/2024 16:16

MaiAamWaliHun · 07/09/2024 16:09

Help! I am on the brink of giving up due to side effects.

At 2.5mcg I was fine but when I moved to 5, I got terrible upset stomach with insane gas. I've never experienced this before. My stomach is broiling and gurgling constantly, it is even interrupting my sleep not to mention the social stress of managing the gas indignity!

It is worst after injection and settles a bit towards the end of the 7 days. I've tried--- peppermint capsules, windeze, IBS for wind/bloating, probiotics, Rennie, Gaviscon, cutting out dairy.

I've been tested at the GP in case it was a bacteria or other problem etc but all was ok. So it must be the Mounjaro.

I feel like I can't go on like this but am also losing weight nicely and am more comfortable in my body than I have been in years (weight-wise).

Is there anything else I can do? Not tried Buscopan cos it isn't cramps but maybe I should. Help!

How long have you been on 5? If this is the first week it may settle down. If you were fine on 2.5 and losing, you could go back down for the next pen. Some people stay on that dose for most or all of their journey.
In the interim, you could reduce your dose eg to 3.75, by counting clicks (45 would get you there). Or even back to 2.5 with 30 clicks and then try upping slowly the following week.
Lots of people struggle initially with 5 as it is the only one where you double the previous dose.

Ineffable23 · 07/09/2024 16:21

Pinkbendyman · 07/09/2024 15:16

I’ve been with ZAVA since my 2nd pen back in May but am seriously considering moving to Oushk just before I reach a healthy BMI.

They’ve now released their 3 different plans in a lot more detail:

www.oushkpharmacy.com/maintenance

I'm also umming and ahhing about moving to Oushk as well, as the idea of being able to restart if it all goes horribly wrong afterwards is pretty tempting.

MaiAamWaliHun · 07/09/2024 16:27

Fromthesidelines · 07/09/2024 16:16

How long have you been on 5? If this is the first week it may settle down. If you were fine on 2.5 and losing, you could go back down for the next pen. Some people stay on that dose for most or all of their journey.
In the interim, you could reduce your dose eg to 3.75, by counting clicks (45 would get you there). Or even back to 2.5 with 30 clicks and then try upping slowly the following week.
Lots of people struggle initially with 5 as it is the only one where you double the previous dose.

I've been on 5 for 2 months :-(. I did a second month rather than raise to 7.5 due to the stomach issues but it hasn't settled down. I just got my next pen at 7.5 but I'm afraid to take it.

MissFancyDay · 07/09/2024 16:30

MaiAamWaliHun · 07/09/2024 16:09

Help! I am on the brink of giving up due to side effects.

At 2.5mcg I was fine but when I moved to 5, I got terrible upset stomach with insane gas. I've never experienced this before. My stomach is broiling and gurgling constantly, it is even interrupting my sleep not to mention the social stress of managing the gas indignity!

It is worst after injection and settles a bit towards the end of the 7 days. I've tried--- peppermint capsules, windeze, IBS for wind/bloating, probiotics, Rennie, Gaviscon, cutting out dairy.

I've been tested at the GP in case it was a bacteria or other problem etc but all was ok. So it must be the Mounjaro.

I feel like I can't go on like this but am also losing weight nicely and am more comfortable in my body than I have been in years (weight-wise).

Is there anything else I can do? Not tried Buscopan cos it isn't cramps but maybe I should. Help!

Maybe try cutting out some other things in your diet, perhaps fatty foods. I'm sorry to be not much help but it seems a shame to stop when you are getting good benefits.

Or maybe return to 2.5mg and move up to 5mg very slowly

Fromthesidelines · 07/09/2024 16:33

MaiAamWaliHun · 07/09/2024 16:27

I've been on 5 for 2 months :-(. I did a second month rather than raise to 7.5 due to the stomach issues but it hasn't settled down. I just got my next pen at 7.5 but I'm afraid to take it.

Oh dear. It does sound as if 7.5 would be risky. Are you using the bonus doses? If you still have some of your 5 to use, yiu could try a lower dose and see if that's any better. At least then you would know whether it is the dosage that's the issue or if you just can no longer tolerate the medication.

Wingingit11 · 07/09/2024 16:35

@MaiAamWaliHun I know a step back but have you tried dropping to eg 4 via clicks and seeing if you can give your belly a week’s hopefully gentler ride ?

livingwithpmdd · 07/09/2024 17:24

MaiAamWaliHun · 07/09/2024 16:09

Help! I am on the brink of giving up due to side effects.

At 2.5mcg I was fine but when I moved to 5, I got terrible upset stomach with insane gas. I've never experienced this before. My stomach is broiling and gurgling constantly, it is even interrupting my sleep not to mention the social stress of managing the gas indignity!

It is worst after injection and settles a bit towards the end of the 7 days. I've tried--- peppermint capsules, windeze, IBS for wind/bloating, probiotics, Rennie, Gaviscon, cutting out dairy.

I've been tested at the GP in case it was a bacteria or other problem etc but all was ok. So it must be the Mounjaro.

I feel like I can't go on like this but am also losing weight nicely and am more comfortable in my body than I have been in years (weight-wise).

Is there anything else I can do? Not tried Buscopan cos it isn't cramps but maybe I should. Help!

I had some of this this week going up to 10 and dropped down to 9 which really helped.
Buscapan worked better than anything else to relieve the pain in my stomach so maybe give it a try.

FarriersGirl · 07/09/2024 17:28

SilenceInside · 07/09/2024 15:44

medicine-seller-register.mhra.gov.uk/report

This is for the MHRA, I don't know if it would cover TikTok as you have to give the webpage address. Not sure if you can do that for TikTok pages.

The GPhC have a reporting process on their website but not sure they can take action against someone who isn't presenting themselves as a pharmacy.

www.pharmacyregulation.org/patients-and-public/reporting-concerns/concerns-we-investigate

I'm sure that advertising and selling prescription medicines like this is a criminal offence. Probably the MHRA as the first place to report to.

MissFancyDay · 07/09/2024 17:29

Can I just ask about leaving the pen out of the fridge. I injected with a new pen yesterday and left it in a drawer. I'm now wondering if storing it in the fridge would actually keep it in better shape, or is it too late now that it's been out for about 30 hours?

Ifyounevergiveup · 07/09/2024 17:29

@MaiAamWaliHun what is your eating pattern? I remember others saying they’ve eaten little bits, like a cracker or a piece of fruit, on a frequent basis and that helped settle their stomachs down. I can see it might give your tummy something to do!

Tireduk · 07/09/2024 17:44

Hi could someone help me please.. I used my extra dose, collected through one of the injection needles and that filled up to 60ml. I’m on 5mg pens now but could go up to 7.5 as I’ve had 5mg for 2 mths, although I cannot remember how many mls I should use. I tried to find one of the previous messages and my brain is too frazzled to work it out. Is it around 40mls for a 5 mg conversion ? Any thoughts as I don’t want to overdo it? Thanks!!

GlueNoGlue · 07/09/2024 18:02

Bloody hell! I’ve gone up to 12.5 yesterday and the suppression is insane. I couldn’t eat at all yesterday, couldn’t even look at food all day today. I’ve forced myself to eat some chicken and rice this evening because I’m worried that I haven’t eaten in two days. I can’t believe the difference between this and 10 which I was on for two months and it was barely suppressing at all by the end.

coolkatt · 07/09/2024 18:20

Me and my husband are both starting this, I'm a month in, he is two days. It's defo working for me, 4 stone overweight, 1 stone off and same for
Him, 4 stone to lose so we are excited for this, and love hearing all the stories and experiences good and bad on here and fb, sm etc. this is the most positive we have both been to shift the weight and feel better medically, not just to look better. Good luck to everyone else no matter where u are on ur journey x

KrankyKumquat · 07/09/2024 18:48

@Tireduk
You'll have got 0.6ml not 6.0 ml out of your 5th dose. To get a 7.5 dose out of a 5mg pen you need another 0.3ml or 30 clicks (basically half of another 5mg dose)

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 07/09/2024 18:51

DDog has sent us all on the wildest rollercoaster of emotions today. We're all feeling frazzled, so we're having pasta for dinner.

I'm not going to feel massively guilty about it I've lost more this week than I have other weeks, my only concern is the constipation that might follow on from it.

Tomorrow we've got a chicken dinner planned, and the slow cooker is out so we're officially onto stewed meat and vegetables season. Wish the garden had been more productive this year, people who can grow carrots, parsnips and turnips are miracle workers in my eyes. I've been really trying to get to know my food before I eat it and I thought growing my own food might help with changing my relationship to food.

I wish there was a low carb or carb free alternative for dumplings and stuffing. I'm going to have to just stay away from them completely.

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AutumnComing2 · 07/09/2024 19:25

@Jimmyneutronsforehead hope ddog is ok. For a lighter dumpling try making them with gluten free flour still carbs but are lighter on the stomach. Well they feel it to me

Doobi · 07/09/2024 19:31

I've been having a think these past couple of weeks. I was hoping to start TTC from early next year but that would mean my Mounjaro journey ending much sooner.

I had planned to stay on it till Mid November. That would have been 3 pens completed. However I'm wavering about maybe having 4 in total and then see how my body gets on.

I'm so conflicted.

I know I've read in many places to wait 2 months before TTC but I've also seen somewhere, where it says 1 month is fine.

I want to lose the weight but I also want to try for a baby.

My head's confused.

(I have a lot of weight to lose)

Lastchancefatty · 07/09/2024 19:59

I've been slapped back down to earth today. Lost 2 stone since June and 10lb in the year before. Went to a theme park today and did the walk of shame. So incrediblely embarrassing and humiliating. Cried my eyes out afterwards. Reminded me not to feel too cocky about my weight loss as I'm still 6 or so stone overweight so a long way to go!

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 07/09/2024 20:01

Doobi · 07/09/2024 19:31

I've been having a think these past couple of weeks. I was hoping to start TTC from early next year but that would mean my Mounjaro journey ending much sooner.

I had planned to stay on it till Mid November. That would have been 3 pens completed. However I'm wavering about maybe having 4 in total and then see how my body gets on.

I'm so conflicted.

I know I've read in many places to wait 2 months before TTC but I've also seen somewhere, where it says 1 month is fine.

I want to lose the weight but I also want to try for a baby.

My head's confused.

(I have a lot of weight to lose)

If you've no known fertility issues and you have time on your side I would lose as much weight as you can first.

Weight on my joints as well as the extra relaxin from pregnancy did a number on me and I feel like being obese has really impacted my ability to play with my son who is now 5.

That said, if you feel like it needs to be prioritised don't stress. I appreciate wholly that weight loss options have increased exponentially since I had DS. What will be will be, and you've got the rest of your life to lose any weight you want to lose. There might even be better options.

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QueenOfHiraeth · 07/09/2024 20:09

So sorry you've had that @Lastchancefatty, I'm sure there's many of us share your upset. Sending you very un-Mumsnetty hugs Flowers
Just think you are on the way to this never happening again x

I'm getting quite concerned about the use of MJ at the moment. I have a friend started on it recently, getting through a known name pharmacy, but was showing me proudly her eating/calorie record which is over 1000cal deficit each day. I've reinforced she should eat more, better balanced, etc but know she won't.

I'm seeing more and more of this online and think there is a real danger of more regulation as the pharmacies only care about making money and not about long term health :(

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 07/09/2024 20:10

AutumnComing2 · 07/09/2024 19:25

@Jimmyneutronsforehead hope ddog is ok. For a lighter dumpling try making them with gluten free flour still carbs but are lighter on the stomach. Well they feel it to me

I will give it a go. Also wondered if freezing them ahead of time before using them would help using the info from MabelSpan.

The dog has had a rough day and we've had some really tough conversations about his quality of life, and they had got to his skin which smells necrotic but I extracted everything and I have disinfected everything surface level and he's been happily bouncing round the garden all afternoon and doing head tilts for treats.

Anyway I've broken out my peri-bottle and filled it with saline for a more targeted approach and the smell is going and although it's tender he's letting me touch it and it's not bothering him as much as it was this morning.

Just about to give him a bedtime wash and wrestle a gauze onto him.

I wasn't very hungry and accidentally dropped my pasta, which I wasn't fussed over any way but then my nan insisted I had hers instead so she could have some chicken and rice and would not take no for an answer so I feel like I've over eaten.

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Choux · 07/09/2024 20:22

MaiAamWaliHun · 07/09/2024 16:09

Help! I am on the brink of giving up due to side effects.

At 2.5mcg I was fine but when I moved to 5, I got terrible upset stomach with insane gas. I've never experienced this before. My stomach is broiling and gurgling constantly, it is even interrupting my sleep not to mention the social stress of managing the gas indignity!

It is worst after injection and settles a bit towards the end of the 7 days. I've tried--- peppermint capsules, windeze, IBS for wind/bloating, probiotics, Rennie, Gaviscon, cutting out dairy.

I've been tested at the GP in case it was a bacteria or other problem etc but all was ok. So it must be the Mounjaro.

I feel like I can't go on like this but am also losing weight nicely and am more comfortable in my body than I have been in years (weight-wise).

Is there anything else I can do? Not tried Buscopan cos it isn't cramps but maybe I should. Help!

Did the GP offer any advice? Have you spoken to your Mounjaro prescriber? It's pretty obvious that if you have had these symptoms for two months now they are not going to stop until you stop taking 5mg. Did you think about taking a lower dose if you were fine on 2.5mg?

I think a lot of suppliers online pages advise moving down a dose if the side effects are too much.

Here's one:
If your side effects are severe, or otherwise difficult to deal with, your doctor may choose to keep you on a lower dose, or move you back down.
Look at the table - 5mg is to assess how well you tolerate it. You don't tolerate it well so go back to 2.5mg!

Continuing Mounjaro... Part 21
Ifyounevergiveup · 07/09/2024 20:24

Lastchancefatty · 07/09/2024 19:59

I've been slapped back down to earth today. Lost 2 stone since June and 10lb in the year before. Went to a theme park today and did the walk of shame. So incrediblely embarrassing and humiliating. Cried my eyes out afterwards. Reminded me not to feel too cocky about my weight loss as I'm still 6 or so stone overweight so a long way to go!

I think a North East walk of shame is a different thing 😉 but anything shameful is horrid and whatever it is, I’m so sorry.

You, madame, are already a quarter of your way to your target weight. By all means look at the path ahead but also look behind at how far you’ve already come. Big love.

guestusername · 07/09/2024 20:57

Ifyounevergiveup · 07/09/2024 20:24

I think a North East walk of shame is a different thing 😉 but anything shameful is horrid and whatever it is, I’m so sorry.

You, madame, are already a quarter of your way to your target weight. By all means look at the path ahead but also look behind at how far you’ve already come. Big love.

I think the walk of shame is a different thing in the South West too but @Lastchancefatty youve done brilliantly so far and next time you go, the only type of walk you’ll be doing it the head up, tits out walk!

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 07/09/2024 21:22

@Lastchancefatty there are worse things to be than overweight.

I like to remind myself of the Roald Dahl quote from The Twits when I start to talk negatively to myself.

A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.

We've all got something we're insecure about, I imagine for many of us on here it is our weight. But if you're not a racist, you're not a bigot, you're not a fascist, you help people, you're kind and polite and you know your boundaries and uphold them then there's absolutely nothing shameful about existing, and being out and about and being as you are. It's just loving yourself enough to accept this is the journey, and the destination is in sight.

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