Slow losers club! (Ozempic, wegovy, mountjaro etc)

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There are so many weight loss injection threads, but I thought I'd start this for anyone feeling a bit deflated by their slower than average loses. It can be disheartening to see others losing multiple lbs per week when it is a slower process for some.

Up your protein and electrolytes.
When I was feeling snacky, salt and vinegar peanuts hit the spot.

Took my first 7.5mg dose yester afternoon
So far I don't think I have any side effects.
I've woken up feeling no hunger, I can eat but don't feel like I really want anything.
Possibly a bit headachy, but I often feel like that after a full week of early mornings.
Something I have noticed over the last week or so, I have a bit more energy

Oh my friends. Oh dear oh dear. @Pinkyp22 I’m very pleased you’ve had no side effects from the 7.5mg dose. I cannot claim the same. I injected Thursday night. Yesterday I was fine. This morning for the last five hours I’ve felt sick as a dog (why is it always dogs? Poor things). Nauseous but not to the point of throwing up. On and off the loo but not to the point of slurry, thank God. Couldn’t drink my morning tea, not even a sip. Sipped flat pop for two hours then came back to bed. Feeling brighter now, a bit like sea sickness, sort of background nausea. This is obviously Fate’s response to my dancing about on these threads saying “side effects, what side effects”. I had a lovely response yesterday, eating mindfully and not being hungry. More of that, less of this, please!

@Pinkyp22 isn’t it funny when you realise your hands are shrinking? I had to start wearing my rings on different fingers (this was years ago when I lost 4 stone). I also dropped a full shoe size, so careful you don’t trip on yours!

@Striving4Better congrats, Wegovy star! You must be over the moon! Get those clothes out; I’ve done the same this week and it’s lovely to be getting back into clothes which had gone back in the Maybe One Day box(es).

Decided to stroll to the bathroom (again!) and I have lost a pound, whoop! It’s only taken THREE WEEKS

@Ifyounevergiveup hopefully it's only temporary 🩷

Most of today I didn't really think the 7.5mg had, had much affect on my appetite. I had a banana at breakfast, then went out shopping and sort of felt hungry by lunch , had some tuna, cottage cheese and ryvita.
Come dinner time I had a very very hard job cooking and then eating, I managed half. Husband bought a nice bottle of wine to share, Ive taken one sip and it really turned my stomach, its as if nothing tastes right?
I don't want anything to eat, the thought of anything instantly makes me feel a bit burgh 👀

Burgh. Yes! That!

Don't know whether just to take the bonus dose tomorrow, see what it is - or top it up to 5mg. My suppression is good, but I'd like to see more weight movement. Had no side effects on 2.5mg other than feeling tired, and suddenly started sick when eating poached eggs for some reason.

Really shocked I feel this way. I stupidly expected to feel like when I first took 5mg! Every dose has been different so far.

@Pinkyp22 me too, it’s been a bit of a write off of a day; I have segued seamlessly from burgh to complete lethargy.

That does however mean I’ve only eaten 700 calories. I’m calling it the can’t be arsed diet.

@SnacklessWonder more Mj won’t make you lose more weight. How’s about you take your bonus dose, concentrate your efforts on making the most of the appetite suppression, and if by any chance it starts wearing off during the week, take your first 5mg dose early?

@Ifyounevergiveup
Yes I've not consumed enough calories today at all, that's what the wine was for. Dinner was a mistake, eating a meal just didn't feel great.
I think I will try to graze tomorrow if I feel the same

Ooh please don’t say this might last more than a day! I think I’m getting there, my tummy feels bruised now but I no longer feel nauseous 🤢

@Ifyounevergiveup I guess not but then when I complain about losing on other threads everyone says "remember 2.5mg is just the starting dose, you're not meant to lose on it..." so it's confusing.

@Ifyounevergiveup let's hope not
@SnacklessWonder see how much you can get from your bonus dose, you may get more than 0.6 which is a nice step up before starting 5

@SnacklessWonder @Pinkyp22 is right. The bonus dose is a nice bridge.

Please don’t feel too confused. The “instructions” for Mj are all well and good, but are based on recent studies because of course the use of Mj for weight loss is new. So when they set up the study, the researchers started everybody off with a low dose. You have to, in case there are bad reactions. Then every research participant had to be treated the same, or the results wouldn’t be valid. So the way they built it was that everybody went up to 5mg. After that, participants could be treated differently depending on their results. Those who were losing stayed on 5. Those who weren’t went up to 7.5 and then 10 - all of them. That’s the only reason why 7.5mg is described as an interim dose - because that’s how the study was constructed. Then they did the same with 12.5 and 15.

So that was the research. But now there are millions of users, all sharing their experiences, and it’s become very clear that very many people lose stones and stones on only 2.5mg (grr. No, I mustn’t.). If you’re not hungry, more Mj won’t make you lose more weight. You want to lose around two stone, as I recall, same as me. You aren’t going to lose weight as quickly as those who have, say, 10 stone to lose, particularly if you’ve been trying to, or managing to, lose weight for a while. So my advice would be, stay on 2.5mg if it’s working for you. And “working for you” isn’t necessarily about weight loss, it’s about hunger. If you start to get weeks where you start off fine but as the week goes on you get hungrier, well, then it’s time to go up. Use your bonus dose. That should be a bit bigger than the normal dose. That will give you an idea of whether going up would be useful. But from what you’ve said, in your shoes I’d stay at 2.5mg. Particularly since at 7.5mg I’ve finally found out what the side effects are like! If you’re not hungry…don’t move!

Hope this helps and isn’t too teachery…the thing to remember is that the “rules” come from a structured research study. Real life doesn’t need to be the same, and in fact it’s important not to take more of any drug than you actually need.

I’ll stop now!

So I'm not a slow loser, I'm on week 9 and I've lost 14kg so far and I wondered if it would be helpful if I shared what my days are like, in case that is of any use. No breakfast (never have), fat free cottage cheese for lunch, normal dinner but a smaller portion due to supression. On the weekend I'll drink wine and I did treat myself to a biscuit this evening. Sounds miserable but it absolutely hasn't been. Snacking as been on cooked chicken breast and cucumber. I've used the appetite suppression to really lean into a calorie defecit in a way I simply couldnt if I were not on the medication. I wonder also if the doses affect us all differently and some people need to hold out for the higher doses.

@Bs0u416d I don’t think that sounds miserable and it’s certainly working! I share your view. I’m eating 1100 calories a day now with very little suppression, so it’s hard, but my first two days on 7.5mg have felt very different. Not in a particularly enjoyable way, but my appetite is certainly suppressed! I have two stone to lose, I’m small framed, 5’2”, 58 years old and hormonally shot (PCOS and hypothyroidism). I couldn’t get anywhere near 1100 calories a day without Mj. As it is, I lose very slowly…but I am losing steadily for the first time in eight years. I have said before that some of us (I think) just have to suck up the fact that we can eat much less than others and not lose anywhere near as much weight, but at least Mj has given me hope that a normal bmi isn’t just a pipe dream.

I absolutely share that feeling about not being able to live with the deficit with MJ!! I'm glad you feel good about consistant loss and I hope others that are losing slowly feel the same. We're all different, we'll all lose differently but its the end result that matters!! I find weighing myself twice daily helps too, it means I can see the usual ups and downs of weight through the day and accross a week and so a weight gain one day to the next doesnt bother me now. If I were weighing weekly, it might, because it would give a skewed picture of what was really happening, a downward trend.

Thanks @Ifyounevergiveup that makes sense. I do still get hungry but no real appetite if you know what I mean. Like, I feel hungry but not bothered about eating...

Just weighed myself and have stayed the same for 6 days now which is frustrating as I am in a good calorie deficit, exercising, drinking water etc. And at this point, I am not sure what MJ is actually doing to help me. Sure, it's helping my appetite but I've lost weight with pure willpower in the past - and it's been more steady and consistent than this, which is what I need for motivation to continue.

I know there's a pattern and I know I should trust the process for my own mental wellbeing I NEED to see the effect of sacrificing some of the things I love! I don't care if it's only 0.2oz every two days but I need to see that something is happening or else it all feels like it's for nothing and that I am injecting myself with a drug for no good reason.

I will probably move up to 5mg and then see how I feel for a week. If it's not for me, I guess I can always adjust clicks and go back down but I think if weight loss continues to be this slow on MJ at the end of next momth I may just come off it altogether and continue to do it the old-fashioned way!

How are you feeling today @Ifyounevergiveup hopefully better than yesterday

@Pinkyp22 Ooh SLURRY! I feel much better in myself but I’ve been up repeatedly during the night. I must have passed pints but guess what? Still the same weight this morning! @SnacklessWonder I then read your post and thought, fair play, if I weren’t taking Mj the horrors of last night would have taken at least 5lbs off me! I don’t understand what is and isn’t going on in terms of getting the weight off. I too can lose weight with willpower alone, but not long term; eventually I cave in and put it all back on. So Mj offers me the opportunity to eat hugely less for (hopefully) a relatively short time, get to a normal bmi then hopefully maintain my new weight. But you’re right, it’s dispiriting. I can’t say I haven’t thought about giving up, I certainly have, but I can also tell you that after doing 2.5 AND 5mg with very little progress (lost 9lb) suddenly food suppression (and awful side effects) has kicked in like a good ‘un at 7.5. So much so that at 4am I was lying calculating that on Thursday I can reduce to 6mg by counting 32 clicks if these side effects continue. If the hunger suppression is as strong as the other side effects I might finally start losing…

In the meantime I’m off to Tesco when it opens for Imodium…😀

@Ifyounevergiveup if you want 6mg from a 7.5mg pen that's actually 48 clicks I think.

Am sure your maths is better in daylight hours when you are feeling 100% 😂

Good luck for the day.

Oh lord @Ifyounevergiveup you do have my sympathy.
I woke up feeling ok, no tummy issues at the moment. I did a morning workout and got very dizzy on the squats . I had not realised dizziness is a tirzepatide side effect, i have been having mild dizzy spells on getting up for a while, only very occasional not every day, I just put it down to getting up too fast / these silly joe wicks work outs making me get on the floor and up again so quick as sometimes I do feel a bit dizzy lile that not that I have any problems with Blood pressure either way.
Anyway this was more intense so much so I had to sit down. Took my blood pressure which was on the low side, blood sugar 6.5 although I had just eaten and that was forced.
I am not liking 7.5 so far, I feel kind of funny but cant put my finger on it. I am too thinking ill go back down to 5 next week.

@Choux honestly, what a fool I am. Thank you! @Pinkyp22 I know. We now have a dilemma, right? I am reminding myself that there’s no hurry, there’s days to go yet before I have to decide, and if this dose acts like the 5mg did, the effects should start falling away from Tuesday. I just have to wait and see what happens next. I tell you something, I’m filled with even more admiration for those early adopters like @obsidiantree who went into this journey absolutely blind. These side effects must have been terrifying before they realised how common they are.

My word - I woke up today and noticed I have a waist.... still no movement on the scales but I am seeing the difference in my shape. Shame my colossal arse wont shrink as well though!

Hope you're all doing well, and any slurry like side effects dont last too long - else you could strike up a deal with a local farmer and make a few quid back in the process!