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We need to talk about the Weather and the potential for extreme heat - PART 2

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 02/08/2022 08:42

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/weather/4583720-we-need-to-talk-about-the-weather-and-the-potential-for-extreme-heat

The old thread was started when models started to introduce model runs with temperatures of 40c several days in advance of when the record breaking heat wave arrived. We chatted about the idea that this has never been seen before in the UK and linked it back to climate change. Meteorologists and weather enthusiasts were horrified when these models actually verified and across the UK record breaking temperatures were seen. We spoke about the risks to infrastructure and health.

Weve also talked about the near drought conditions in parts of southern
England and East Anglia.

We discussed comparisons to 1976 and showed that although 1976 was hot for a prolonged period of time and was extremely dry, reaching back into 1975, that the UK was anomalously warm compared to elsewhere. In contrast, the July 22 heat wave happened amongst a background of extreme heat across Europe and elsewhere. In 1976 the highest recorded temperature was 35.9c, this year it was 40.3c

This thread is a continuation of that discussion.

Disclaimer: I'm a weather enthusiast, not a professional meteorologist. As such, please refer to the Met Office for reliable forecasts.

Looking forward, GFS, supported by several members of the GEFS ensembles show the potential for another heatwave from around the 9th August in the south and Midlands. Nothing as extreme as the July heatwave, but instead introduces several days of above 30c heat with some showing temperatures into the mid or high 30s. At the moment, there isn't sufficient model consensus to say that this is a likely outcome. I'm flagging this as a potential scenario, but not yet an actual forecast.

Photos are a couple of stats from the met office with regards to the dry situation in July.

We need to talk about the Weather and the potential for extreme heat - PART 2
We need to talk about the Weather and the potential for extreme heat - PART 2
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colouringindoors · 13/08/2022 16:58

Mojito please with Loads of ice 🧊

Plasmodesmata · 13/08/2022 17:01

Forecast keeps making the heat last longer - we now have 28 degrees on Monday (North Yorkshire). I keep thinking "just one more day after today" but now it looks more like 2 more.
Insane family members spending tomorrow at a music festival in Derbyshire. I think they may melt.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 13/08/2022 17:20

That sounds amazing Emma what goes with margaritas?

This was an interesting article re antidepressants and heat.

Imagine the link. Phone wont put it on. Tis on bbc.

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colouringindoors · 13/08/2022 17:28

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-62496985

interesting

EmmaH2022 · 13/08/2022 17:33

OhYouBadBadKitten · 13/08/2022 17:20

That sounds amazing Emma what goes with margaritas?

This was an interesting article re antidepressants and heat.

Imagine the link. Phone wont put it on. Tis on bbc.

What about honeydew melon or strawberries?

we used to have a monthly afternoon tea thing at one place I worked (just a bit of cake really). During a heatwave, I suggested we replace it with cocktails & fruit...sadly HR were not keen! 😂

I am probably now going to read and MN in front of the air con till 9pm. What a wasted day. Too many of them this year.

colouringindoors · 13/08/2022 17:36

also interesting

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62532620

colouringindoors · 13/08/2022 17:40

Everyone who uses water must rethink and make sure they use it wisely, the chairman of the body that has declared droughts around England says.

"We have got to rethink... and that means everyone, not just regulators and government," said Harvey Bradshaw, chair of the National Drought Group.

He is also executive director of the Environment Agency, which has warned the drought could last into next year.

InMySpareTime · 13/08/2022 18:06

Sorry, but I did giggle when I read that the doctor's advice in the article was given by Dr Wendy Burn!

nottalot · 13/08/2022 18:10

colouringindoors · 13/08/2022 17:40

Everyone who uses water must rethink and make sure they use it wisely, the chairman of the body that has declared droughts around England says.

"We have got to rethink... and that means everyone, not just regulators and government," said Harvey Bradshaw, chair of the National Drought Group.

He is also executive director of the Environment Agency, which has warned the drought could last into next year.

That is scarily depressing.

I'm so hot I feel unwell, and things feel apocalyptic. Which of course with climate change, they sort of are.

EmmaH2022 · 13/08/2022 18:12

My neighbours were saying there should have been a hosepipe ban ages ago. I agree. They are creating a crisis.

SleepingAgent · 13/08/2022 18:36

Just been pinged on my app for thunderstorms tomorrow night till 6 am and again Monday (north Scotland).

Where I am is not as dried out brown dust as I've seen down south but our local river is lower than I can remember seeing in years.

colouringindoors · 13/08/2022 18:39

Totally agree re hosepipe ban. I think it's Insane that Thames Water haven't.

BlackeyedSusan · 13/08/2022 18:50

With the heat and dry we are going to using more water for the fire brigade fighting fires.

EmmaH2022 · 13/08/2022 19:53

I'm boooored now.

InMySpareTime · 13/08/2022 20:06

I saw clouds and was briefly hopeful, but they just raised the humidity.
Now it's still hot but sweaty with it. 28c downstairs, I dread to think what it is upstairs.

colouringindoors · 13/08/2022 20:14

EmmaH2022 · 13/08/2022 19:53

I'm boooored now.

I feel your pain. I'm mainlining The Bold Type on Netflix with vodka and the remains of my kids fanta. Living the dream!

EmmaH2022 · 13/08/2022 20:19

as we're talking about Netflix, I think someone mentioned a sort of mystery about supernatural creatures? Anyone know what that might be? It sounds good!

I wonder if Sunday night will feel less horrible.

FlagsFiend · 13/08/2022 20:29

Hosepipe bans are strange, we have one coming in but not for two weeks! Seems like we need it now with the pictures I've seen of the local reservoirs.

Anyway, my learning for today was that you can get sunburnt sat in the shade...

OhYouBadBadKitten · 13/08/2022 20:36

I think there are all sorts of 'things' that have to be put in place when there are hosepipe bans, to do with farmers and water extraction and whatnot.

She says vaguely, waving her hands in the air to illustrate only a small understanding.

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EmmaH2022 · 13/08/2022 20:38

OhYouBadBadKitten · 13/08/2022 20:36

I think there are all sorts of 'things' that have to be put in place when there are hosepipe bans, to do with farmers and water extraction and whatnot.

She says vaguely, waving her hands in the air to illustrate only a small understanding.

presume farmers are exempt?

I heard that Thames Water actually wanted a hosepipe ban and gov said no. No idea if this is true.

FlagsFiend · 13/08/2022 20:44

I don't think a hosepipe ban applies to farmers. The list I read was just applicable to domestic properties - things like don't wash your car, fill a paddling pool or water your garden with a hosepipe. I'm not sure why 2 weeks notice is needed for that.

There is a next level of restrictions that are more restrictive and include businesses. They need permission from the government.

SulisMinerva · 13/08/2022 20:45

as we're talking about Netflix, I think someone mentioned a sort of mystery about supernatural creatures? Anyone know what that might be? It sounds good!

Sandman? We’re watching it at the moment.

So hot and humid here - upstairs is worst and it’s hard to sleep. Really hoping for thunderstorms on Monday.
A couple of towns near us had no water today - awful in this heat!

Ylfa · 13/08/2022 20:49

Farms often have boreholes which is cheaper than mains water (and less regulated although this will change).

EmmaH2022 · 13/08/2022 20:55

Sulis no, not Sandman.

creatures in a forest, I think?

getting cloudy in Norf London.

colouringindoors · 13/08/2022 21:06

I recommend Vodka.

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