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Storm Franklin (Monday 21st February)

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GloriaSmud · 20/02/2022 10:05

Another storm and there is an Amber warning at the moment for Northern Ireland but I think there should be one for Cumbria/Lancashire as well, looking at the wind charts for tomorrow.

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1happyhippie · 21/02/2022 11:31

I’m in Cumbria, we are used to very windy and wet weather, but this was something else!
Trees that have stood for decades have fallen, chimneys collapsed and tiles off roofs.
I have fences down and the shed off lifted, but somehow y wheelie stood strong 😂

RedToothBrush · 21/02/2022 11:32

Rostherne No2 met office station recorded 62mph at 7am this morning and 9am this morning.

An independent station at Cheadle also got 61mph at 7.08am.

Thats rush hour. Not the middle of the night.

flapjackfairy · 21/02/2022 11:35

my neighbours conservatory roof hit our house at about 9 am this morning. we are in the midlands and missed the worst of storm Eunice so worse here today than saturday by far. I went out to pick up a roof panel but could barely stand up in the wind.

BlackeyedSusan · 21/02/2022 11:39

Just seen an upwards waterfall as a gust of wind has sent a sheet of water directly up from the whole length of the gutter on the electric shed electricity sub station building.

More water is getting blown out and thrown across the garden.

I slept through the highest forecast winds.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 21/02/2022 12:24

It is of course entirely possible that the storm has been worse than modelling forecast.

RedToothBrush · 21/02/2022 12:37

@OhYouBadBadKitten

It is of course entirely possible that the storm has been worse than modelling forecast.
I think I'm hoping its this tbh.
RedToothBrush · 21/02/2022 12:40

Met office is saying there is a 10% chance of rain here at 1pm and less than 5% after 2pm.

I am really hoping thats the case cos its currently pissing it down.

Wind is still not great...

OhYouBadBadKitten · 21/02/2022 12:49

A rather useful radar site :) www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

RedToothBrush · 21/02/2022 13:07

Cheers thats helpful.

I think after 2pm is looking reasonable from that. I may brave it.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 21/02/2022 13:10

Provisional data coming out suggests that in terms of wind speed, apart from Northern Ireland, which was under an amber warning and parts of the North West, Eunice was a stronger storm. It suggests that the amber wind warning perhaps should have covered the NW too.

I'm a bit baffled by the lack of heavy rain warnings and I'd like to know more about why this happened.

It is interesting how people's perceptions away from the NW are different with regards to the wind. As I've suggested, I think this is down to the fact that so much heavy rain was embedded in it - it sounds much worse when rain is battering the window. A lot of structure and trees were already weakened and came down. (that aspect could be used to make an argument for upgrading a warning). Also from a local point of view, the gusts haven been shorter but closer together with Franklin. With Eunice, there were long intense gusts, followed by quite lengthy lulls. Perhaps that changes the perception of which were worse.
Also the wind direction was a little different I think and that will have put different people into the worst of the winds.

I'm sorry about your neighbours conservatory roof flapjackfairy. That would have been scary.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 21/02/2022 13:24

I want to make it clear that I'm not dissing anyone's storm experience. Locally it may well be more severe and it does sound like it's been a rather nasty night and morning. Certainly yesterday evening was atrocious with the squall line. The combined impacts have lead to more trees down, more damage and more power cuts. Utterly grim.

HarreePotter · 21/02/2022 13:42

@OhYouBadBadKitten is this another squall line?

Storm Franklin (Monday 21st February)
TwentinQuarantino · 21/02/2022 13:47

NW here and the wind finally seems to have calmed a little. It's been absolutely horrendous all last night and this morning - much, much worse than Friday for us.

Woke up this morning to smashed windscreens, front and rear, thanks to flying debris and roof tiles Sad still trying to find a company that can fix it within a day or two.

RedToothBrush · 21/02/2022 13:50

OYBBK, I am fairly sure that the wind speeds across the Manchester Area were the highest this week - I checked what the observations were. I don't think into Red levels, but the rain issue has definitely made problems worse up here, together with the wind direction being just about the worst possible (wind blowing west directly at 90 degrees to all the Mersey / Ship Canal crossings most of which are at height and very exposed is THE worst scenario).

I definitely think Amber was much more appropriate, especially as some of the worst was well into rush hour rather than overnight (as has been suggested by some).

And that was compounded by the already high river levels.

The reports in the local papers definitely seem to be recording more damage and disruption than when we were under Friday's Amber. I don't think it was taken seriously because of the Yellow warning and I do think there should be lessons learned from this (eg strong winds from the west have more impact to lives than from other directions because of our road and rail infrustrastucture in the NW and perhaps this should be a major consideration)

OhYouBadBadKitten · 21/02/2022 13:51

[quote HarreePotter]@OhYouBadBadKitten is this another squall line? [/quote]
It doesn't look like one, at the moment it looks like just an ordinary cold front. Squall lines have a much sharper more intense line. They form along or ahead of cold fronts though, so they are associated with them.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 21/02/2022 13:55

RTB, you are correct that Manchester, did have more intense wind with Franklin than the rest of the storms so far and I think indeed for a number of years. I certainly think you have a case for amber should also have been stretched across from NI into north western England.

HillsBesideTheSea · 21/02/2022 16:39

OYBBK is it looking like there will be more high winds this week or are things calming down? I could do with being able to put stuffs into the recycling bin without it ending up over half the neighbour hood.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 21/02/2022 20:17

Thursday looks pretty blowy, especially up in Scotland. But I think it won't be a named storm now.

Some interesting snow signals popping up for Thursday though...

HillsBesideTheSea · 21/02/2022 23:57

I bet they miss me, they always seem to miss me by 10 miles, sometimes but a frustrating 4 miles. Hmm

Thank you for the heads up.

HillsBesideTheSea · 21/02/2022 23:58

Sorry I live in the wrong country for the love of snow that I have Blush I really do need to see about fixing that. Grin

Allaboutyou222 · 22/02/2022 16:58

Now storm Gladys.

CaveMum · 22/02/2022 17:01

Er, Gladys looks like a big girl Confused

Storm Franklin (Monday 21st February)
OhYouBadBadKitten · 22/02/2022 19:15

Bugger. Got that wrong yesterday!

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 22/02/2022 20:22

What fresh hell is this now?

RedToothBrush · 22/02/2022 20:41

Please no more!

It was lovely here today. We usually get one lovely week in February which really confuses everyone cos its tshirt weather.

Why not this year too!?