Possible severe gales - Part 2

[OhYouBadBadKitten]

:) in case I'm not back by the time the other one fills up.

That's a heartless remark Mig

All fairly quiet now in Herts, 2 trees down in the neighbours garden taking her fence that was replaced after the last winter. The 20 year old fence stays firm! The cats think it is a new large cat flap as they are running back and forth through the gap!

I'm going to venture down our drive, some 150m to the lane and and see if I am trapped in like last time!

Mignonette because he has chosen to do it and because he has more compassion than you do.
They shouldn't be out there in the storms, no. However it's what they signed up to do.

I don't think mignonette is talking about the 14 year old, she's talking about adults who are still swimming in Brighton, despite knowing what happened nearby yesterday and putting other people's lives at risk, not just their own.

On and off heavy rain in Cornwall now. The storm passed pretty uneventfully in the night. The extent of the damage chez nous is one upturned chair in the back garden.

Yes, Sky News has been showing the clip on and off, it is a bunch of adults in Brighton, not the Newhaven group, a cameraman got dragged into the waves and they are all laughing and saying they've swum in much worse, irresponsible and insensitive.

I believed Mig to be talking about the adults and news crews playing chicken in the seas. Not te poor kid swept out to sea.

We were very lucky here, our onions have been blown over but otherwise unscathed. The local news shows a lot of disruption elsewhere.

It's breezy and sunny now but expecting showers later on.

Mrshercule

I do have compassion. I also have compassion for my BIL who is the person who goes out in this weather unlike all of us tucked up in our beds.

My remark about the swimmers was about the grown swimmers of the swimming club not the fourteen year old boy

Read the post properly. Why should my BIL have to risk his neck for adults who choose to go swimming in a storm? Did you see the Sky clip where they were swept off their feet and nearly dragged out including the reporter/cameraman?

The little boy wasn't swimming during the storm.

Thank you rusty and Cat.

Two Mners who can read

On the BBC website they had photos of a group of adult swimmers on Brighton beach, deciding not to go in, and another one captioned 'Brave surfers risk the storm'

I'm with Mignonette, rescue crew members are injured or killed every year rescuing people who made very poor and stupid decisions. Most of them adults.

I also agree with Mignonette. I also think in light of what happened to that poor boy I think the bbc or whoever were rather rubbing salt in the woulds of his family and friends by showing them doing it

I'm back :)

That was a little over exciting!

I'll get new thread going.

welcome back
there is a part 3

Those idiot swimmers should be ashamed of themselves :(

I know Murder AND the frigging "photographers" leaning over quaysides and putting their necks at risk...and those of others by default.

It's more Sky News I'm cross with, the swimmers are adults and ultimately it's their decision. Sky showing it repeatedly and making out it's all a bit of fun, at a time when there are lots of children/teens likely to be watching as it's half term is my main issue.

Yes who. Good point. The reporter/photographer got a good near drowning though and it took two of them to pull him to safety. serves him right.

The sea on that report from Brighton was no worse than it often is this time of year and those swimmers go in everyday. That's their choice just like it's the choice of the RNLI crew members/coastguard to do what they do.

Calling people idiots and implying that the lives of some are worthier of protection than other, based purely on the choices they make, is insulting. Particularly so to the family and friends of D, who are understandably devastated at the moment.

They are idiots especially as they were all knocked off their feet and ran out/crawled out pretty damn quick. How arrogant to think that a person weighing no more than nine stone could ever swim strongly enough to outwit waves and currents like that.

And I wasn't talking about the young boy nor referring to him in this context. Have you not read the thread properly?

it isn't about lives being worth more than others. It is about not adding to the already over burdened emergency services. It is about being considerate to them so they can assist those who have got into difficulties not because of idiotic choices, not through deliberately choosing to risk yourself in a leisure activity. And if you think the emergency services (especially many lifeboatmen) don't hold this view too, then you know very little about them.

There's no need to be patronising. People make choices everyday, that often in hindsight are ill thought out, that impact adversely on others. Calling them idiots is not helpful and it is quite insensitive when a child is missing and presumed drowned.

No need for hindsight here. They are foresighted fools.

Won't tell you what my BIl and his crew have said about them. Unless of course you think you know better than RNL crew?

*For the last time. This has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE YOUNG BOY. He was out before the storm. This is about grown people swimming during an amber alert.

Every summer we have fools rescued from the channel who have put themselves at risk through ignorance of tides, currents, cliffs, basic safety such as wearing the right kit... and if publicising it and calling them fools highlights the issues and prevents further loss of life, that's a good thing IMO.

It's not about the death of one teenager, it is about the lack of thinking in adults that happens year on year.

They should be made to pay towards their costs. Also climbers/mountain walkers who go out without protective gear and in defiance of weather reports.