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To resent my daughter?

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BeckyBloom · Yesterday 08:59

My elder daughter who is 30 got married a couple of years ago and at the hen she completely embarrassed me. I could have bitten back but I didn’t want to spoil the mood as everyone was lovely and other than that we had a great time. It was a question about have you ever heard your parents having sex in one of the games. She said yes when she was 8, on a certain night and asked why I was doing it when I was in middle of a divorce. It wasn’t the middle, it was at the start of the text book bad behaviour, staying out etc. She then said she had found a dildo in my safe when she was 8 as she knew the password. This was said infront of her group of lovely friends, a couple of my friends and two family members.

It’s 2 years ago and I still can’t get over it as I would never embarrass someone like that. I’ve asked her for an apology and she just laughs and says it was banter and not embarrassing.

It’s really starting to affect how I feel about her as she obviously has no respect for me. Am I being precious and over the top?

OP posts:
BauhausOfEliott · Yesterday 15:49

BeckyBloom · Yesterday 15:42

This is probably the only disagreement we’ve ever had

Stop obsessing over it, then.

Honestly, I really don't know what you want from this thread. Do you actually want people to say 'Yeah, your daughter's a total cow and you're absolutely right to obsess over a drunken indiscretion at her hen do for two years solid and then resent her for it'? Or do you genuinely want to let this go? Because it doesn't sound like the latter to me, and it's beginning to seem increasingly weird. Every time people tell you that this isn't the big deal you think it is, you just argue with them. It's as if you actually want this to be a problem.

ThePM · Yesterday 15:50

OP, if you were magically transported back to that evening, what would you say and do differently?

With the benefit of hindsight what could have led to a different outcome?

Hassell · Yesterday 15:52

bakingsodar · Yesterday 15:48

SO YOU KEPT THESE THINGS AROUND AN 8 YEARS OLD CHILD. disgusting

well if you call a locked safe “lying around”

Shoola · Yesterday 15:54

It was a hen do so she was probably drunk. I think you need to get over it.

ConnieHeart · Yesterday 15:59

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · Yesterday 09:23

As someone who heard her parents having sex and found whipped cream in my mums bedside table I can 100% guarantee her embarrassment from then is 100x greater than yours… maybe try some empathy ( yes she shouldn’t have gone through your safe so she has to own that as that’s why it was in the safe) but hearing your mum having sex is the stuff of poking your eyes out…

Get over it as it bad for you - even worse for her

It doesn't sound like the dd was embarrassed. Maybe at the time but she told the OP it was just "banter" and not embarrassing

hypnovic · Yesterday 16:01

Holding onto this is unhealthy it was hen banter she obviously feels more relaxed and "one of the girls" with you than you do with her. Move on

Feis123 · Yesterday 16:06

VividPinkTraybake · Yesterday 15:47

I mean "fucker" is a swear word to, so not necessarily a bullseye point there.

Exactly bullseye - fucking is a swear-word, love-making is not. Hence insulting 'fucker'. Can't be more bullseye if you tried.

BeckyBloom · Yesterday 16:06

Thank you to everyone for the insight and the empathy ( some of you!). I didn’t realise I was arguing with posters just trying to put my point of view over as she doesn’t get it. I’ll move on now. Thank you again.

OP posts:
Ilovr · Yesterday 16:06

I would never say such things out loud, with my mom present. We talking about a grown adult with a fully formed brain and not a teenager. This was not necessary.

Ilovr · Yesterday 16:07

And I mean never in a million years..

Woodfiresareamazing2 · Yesterday 16:21

Muffinmam · Yesterday 15:16

Yes, reading comprehension is very hard for you.

It was a question about have you ever heard your parents having sex in one of the games. She said yes when she was 8, on a certain night and asked why I was doing it when I was in middle of a divorce. It wasn’t the middle, it was at the start of the text book bad behaviour, staying out etc.”

An analysis of this poorly written paragraph indicates that the OP’s daughter referenced her mother having sex in the middle of a divorce. The OP countered that the sex occurred at the start (of the divorce) and made some reference to text book bad behaviour, staying out etc.

Personally, I have zero idea of what the OP considers textbook behaviour. But I imagine at the start of a divorce she was engaging in promiscuous behaviour and staying out. So my confusion is how is it “bad behaviour” unless you’re sleeping around and bringing men to the home to where your eight year old child sleeps.

Ah, comprehension, it can be so tricky, can't it?

OP was clearly referencing the start of her then-husband's bad behaviour, not her own.

And most of us understand what text book male bad behaviour means.

seascacilimeadar · Yesterday 16:24

Muffinmam · Yesterday 15:16

Yes, reading comprehension is very hard for you.

It was a question about have you ever heard your parents having sex in one of the games. She said yes when she was 8, on a certain night and asked why I was doing it when I was in middle of a divorce. It wasn’t the middle, it was at the start of the text book bad behaviour, staying out etc.”

An analysis of this poorly written paragraph indicates that the OP’s daughter referenced her mother having sex in the middle of a divorce. The OP countered that the sex occurred at the start (of the divorce) and made some reference to text book bad behaviour, staying out etc.

Personally, I have zero idea of what the OP considers textbook behaviour. But I imagine at the start of a divorce she was engaging in promiscuous behaviour and staying out. So my confusion is how is it “bad behaviour” unless you’re sleeping around and bringing men to the home to where your eight year old child sleeps.

The OP meant the ex-husband's behaviour.

Almost as if you were intentionally misreading/misrepresenting it.

NotAtMyAge · Yesterday 16:25

I find it amazing you were invited to your daughter's hen do in the first place. When our daughter got married (some time ago now) her small hen do was just her and her best friends having a very enjoyable posh tea party. My presence would definitely have been surplus to requirements. 😁

VividPinkTraybake · Yesterday 16:31

Feis123 · Yesterday 16:06

Exactly bullseye - fucking is a swear-word, love-making is not. Hence insulting 'fucker'. Can't be more bullseye if you tried.

Masterbait is not a swear word....I am sure we could go all day to onamism and fornication but I feel this is ridiculous enough

LeaderBee · Yesterday 16:36

Hassell · Yesterday 15:31

So don’t.

talk to her or don’t talk to her

but whatever you do… you need to put this to bed.

Apparently she already did that and that's what the daughters joke was about 😂

TahliaBanania · Yesterday 16:47

You are not being unreasonable to be upset. I would be upset too if my daughter embarrassed me like that and then not apologised.

Swiftie1878 · Yesterday 16:48

BeckyBloom · Yesterday 14:32

We have had many many open discussions about the divorce as the drama he and the ow created was huge for me.

Have you talked about the experiences she shared at the hen do? Perhaps they were traumatic for her?

SwatTheTwit · Yesterday 17:05

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 13:18

She burst it out at a hen party in front of everyone - that’s no different. If OP was at the hen party, then presumably it was at the invitation of DD, so surely she should have been mindful that something like this would embarrass her mum ? Added to that there was the detail about snooping and finding a dildo. Totally unnecessary and totally inappropriate. Designed to embarrass, and deliberately so.

Personally I don’t see it as bursting it out because it was in the context of a game and she was answering. She invited her mum but obviously misjudged the type of relationship. It’s not the end of the world.

SwatTheTwit · Yesterday 17:09

BlueSherbet · Yesterday 13:10

Its a shame your mum would have to miss out.

Is it really necessary to talk about sex in the most lewd fashion?

Why not do something a bit more 'normal' / decent, so everyone can join in?

I envy the men who just go for a drink / activity. I cant imagine a group of them sitting around snickering about sex or having a vagina drawing contest.

Ive often wondered why hens often must be so crude and childish?

(General question, not aimed at you).

It depends on the place and culture. Hen dos in my country are just an outing or a trip with a few friends, so it wouldn’t be an issue. I still wouldn’t want my mother there, but to fair I want to elope precisely because I don’t want to be catering to other people’s needs.

I think you’re wildly wrong about men though. How many times have we seen posts here about men doing questionable things on stag dos? If anything they’re worse than women when it comes to sex, far more vulgar.

Redpaisley · Yesterday 17:14

BeckyBloom · Yesterday 12:21

The divorce was another story typical abusive DH from Mumsnet but that’s history and absolutely ancient history!

That makes her comments even worse. There was no need to remind you of your abusive past years later in such insensitive way in front of others.
Posters saying she was drunk so it’s okay won’t be saying the same if a man said such things in drunk state. She was 28 not 8.

Redpaisley · Yesterday 17:16

BauhausOfEliott · Yesterday 15:49

Stop obsessing over it, then.

Honestly, I really don't know what you want from this thread. Do you actually want people to say 'Yeah, your daughter's a total cow and you're absolutely right to obsess over a drunken indiscretion at her hen do for two years solid and then resent her for it'? Or do you genuinely want to let this go? Because it doesn't sound like the latter to me, and it's beginning to seem increasingly weird. Every time people tell you that this isn't the big deal you think it is, you just argue with them. It's as if you actually want this to be a problem.

What’s wrong with people like you fo be so rude to someone feeling a big down.

Bluedenimdoglover · Yesterday 17:24

Looking at the large number of replies the poster has made leads me to conclude that she's looking for justification for her feelings. We can't do that for her, so she needs to just accept how she feels and move on.....

Hassell · Yesterday 17:26

Bluedenimdoglover · Yesterday 17:24

Looking at the large number of replies the poster has made leads me to conclude that she's looking for justification for her feelings. We can't do that for her, so she needs to just accept how she feels and move on.....

i agree

Mrrd · Yesterday 17:31

BeckyBloom · Yesterday 14:27

Hassell, as far as I was concerned it was water under the bridge. She is a strong minded woman and if she had had issues I’d definitely have known about them.

OP I think it might be worth having a chat with her about her childhood. I am 55 and very strong-minded etc, but I am still resentful about parts of my childhood but my parents are unable to reflect and it makes me resent them, even now they are in their eighties. Be careful

EdithBond · Yesterday 17:32

OriginalSkang · Yesterday 10:01

Jesus Christ - is there anything left on mumsnet that isn't 'vile'? Hen dos are vile? They definitely aren't my cup of tea, but vile?

I didn’t say hen dos were vile. I said that one sounded vile.

My opinion. You’re of course entitled to yours.

IMHO why would you ask a question like that? Especially with the mother there. And especially when the ‘hen’s’ parents split up when she was a young child.

And IMHO why would a ‘hen’ answer in that way? But especially with her mum there. And when it’s never been discussed in private and relates to a time her parents’ relationship was breaking down: a deeply personal and traumatic time for the family. Not something to be laughed about in front of people.

I love a bit of dark humour. But personally, I’d never disrespect or embarrass my mum in public like that. Nor would I be happy if my DC blurted something like that out in public for ‘a laugh’. I’d feel blindsided and disrespected. And be worried they’d hung onto that memory since 8 because of how the relationship breakdown must have confused/affected them.

But we’re all different, so you may not mind. I respect that.