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Im stuck on what to do.... help?

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Flicitytricity · 19/05/2026 16:53

I have been part of a walking/hiking group for 6 years now.
There are 8 women in this group, I (thought) I got in well with them all, until a month ago.
We regularly go abroad on holiday together, weekends away etc
One of the group has taken against me, spparantly hasn't liked me ' for years' and cant see a way forward.
She removed herself from our whatsapp group, and although i have tried to contact her to find out what it is I've done wrong, what ive done (inadvertently) to upset her, im getting nowhere.
its caused a bit of drama in the group, we all met for a prearranged walk and she would not even make eye contact with me, let alone exchange pleasantries.
Mid way through the walk she had tears, saying she has had this problem with me for years and felt so lonely within our group, and just felt so bereft.
At the end of the walk, I left, I just felt so awful. I honestly, truly and genuinely do not know what I've done to upset her, but its made life difficult for the others in our little group.
Most seem to be as bewildered as I am, but she is a woman with the best, and most fun personality, so I think others in the group are thinking there MUST be some reason for this.
Im fucking stumped.
Don't want to make this an essay, but I was the main support she had from anyone in the group when her life went tits up a couple of years ago, so this just feels like a punch to the gut.
Im inclined to back off completely, im just not fit for schoolgirl squabbles, but at the same time, im thinking why should I? I've done nothing wrong.
God, this reads like a self indulgent teen drama, I should be way past this, but would appreciate any advice from people who've been through similar.

OP posts:
Namechangeforthisdilemma1 · 21/05/2026 11:36

Dont address her directly in person any more. Just say “I’m not going to let Jane push me out of group I enjoy when I’ve done nothing wrong. Either we can co exist peacefully or Jane can leave”

WildLeader · 21/05/2026 11:40

Flicitytricity · 19/05/2026 18:41

That's the advice I would give too.
Problem is, when you're actually there, the atmosphere is awful. It's not an enjoyable experience.
If she left, I would feel guilty, without knowing why, but I can't see us both staying, so thinking it will likely be me who steps down. I really don't want to, but cant see a happy ending tbh

Don’t you fucking dare feel guilty if she left the group!

she stood you up on a meet up an hour away because- and she actually told you this 😲 - she got a better offer.

fucking hell, I ended a short friendship when someone stood me up at a early morning meet up at a garden centre 20 mins from my home. There is absolutely no excuse for not sending a text or whatever to say you’re not going to make it.

this HAS to be the root cause of her behaviour. You were RIGHT to be miffed!

honestly, stick it out and be 100% open that you have zero clue as to why she’s like this, and make sure to drop in the time she stood you up as the last interaction you’ve had, and then shrug.

be clear with all your friends “I have literally racked my brains to see what on earth kind of reason she has for behaving like this towards me, I’ve asked her outright and got zero response. Perhaps she’ll get over this drama as quickly as she started it. I’ve done nothing wrong.”

godmum56 · 21/05/2026 11:46

If you are still enjoying the group and they aren't taking sides, then I would carry on going and its up to her what she does. I wouldn't confront her because to me its likely what she is trying for...the big scene where you "make her cry" You have done nothing wrong, don't behave as though its you at fault.
Not the same but similar, I had a problem with new neighbours (not next door) who took a dislike to me as soon as they moved in. The made multiple complaints to the council about me and tried to turn my longstanding next door neighbours, both sides, against me. i won't lie, it was hard to style through it but when they got nowhere with me, they tried the same tactics on other neighbours who finally found out what they were really like.

Teainapinkcup · 21/05/2026 11:54

Flicitytricity · 19/05/2026 17:03

I think i need to, as we're getting to the 'she said, so I said' routine and im waking up all night replaying conversations.
Only issue is, I really enjoy the group, love the company, the chatter, the general always having someone there to talk to.
Aaaggghh, I just don't know what to do for the best🫤

Can you set your own group up? even if its just 2 of you to start with? Get out of this current group, no good can come from this now she has targeted you in some way, if you did not genuinely say anything to her to upset her maybe she is jealous in some way ? Who knows...have you come out and asked her what her problem is ?

MsGreying · 21/05/2026 11:55

My husband's advice is 'stay away from people. They're mostly bonkers and the ones that aren't yet will be soon'

I'm paraphrasing really but sometimes I wonder if he's right when you find people suddenly act weird and go proper funny for no apparent reason.

Gloriia · 21/05/2026 11:58

GuelderRoses · 21/05/2026 10:01

Have you told the other group members that you have absolutely no idea what the problem is?

Maybe one of them might grasp the nettle and ask her.

The op has brought it up 'Two of the group said that whatever the problem was , was down to her and for me to just crack on as normal. The other two have said quite openingly that they have no idea what the issue is between the two of us, but they are not getting involved and just want things to be normal.'

So, they're either too wet to ask the horrible one to desist and will turn a blind eye to bullying or there's another side to the story that the op is oblivious too.

Whichever it is it doesn't sound fixable.

FallingIsLearning · 21/05/2026 12:06

Flicitytricity · 19/05/2026 18:00

Her long time partner died unexpectedly.
It was a dreadful time for her.

When I first read that you had supported her through something, I wondered whether she had confided something to you that she is now embarrassed about, but that doesn’t seem likely,

Could it be that she associates you with that terrible time and seeing you is a reminder of it?

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 21/05/2026 12:10

For whatever reason she is being a 'Wendy'. She is making it so awkward for you, you'll have little choice but to leave the group which is the reason she cannot say what has changed or what you have 'done wrong'.

Howtorespond · 21/05/2026 12:20

Ewg9 · 20/05/2026 22:36

This is supper tough OP, I'm sorry you are in this position. it feels petty and childish but it is terribly stressful. I have a similar issue with my SIL who stopped speaking to me over I'm not quite sure what but i think she had stored up her beefs with me in the 6 years I've known her as i as unsure what i've done. So I can relate when you are questioning yourself and the self examination. Agree with a previous poster who advised open communication with her saying you are there to listen if and when she's ready to speak to you about her issue, and screenshot and share with the group. May feel abit like airing dirty laundry but it is honest, open and respectful but demonstrates you are trying to address the problem that isn't your problem. You sound a kind and empathic person, hurt that she hasn't been able to address her problem and move on or just let it go and move on. Your feelings and the way this has made you feel are valid too.

Completely agree with this- these bullies need a light shone on their spite. I’ve a sister in law who had apparently stored up 30 years of complaints against me and then listed them out when I challenged her on some appalling abuse she threw at her brother (my husband) and her sister. It was shattering at the time as we had always rubbed along ok, I thought. I was terribly upset and blindsided and avoided her and gatherings for a while. That was a mistake- and now I absolutely won’t be pushed around by someone like that. There are some really odd and vindictive people around and honestly, I’d advise you to keep going along, keep being you. She wants you to be pushed out, for whatever reason she has percolated in her head, and she probably will not ever say what it is as it’s almost certainly nothing rational.

Thisismynewname23 · 21/05/2026 12:23

This is awful, I hope the situation settles down for you x

3luckystars · 21/05/2026 12:27

hotsoap · 21/05/2026 11:07

How such things can be even real? Don't people have real lives, jobs, families....who has time or money to go abroad with randos from a walking group? MN at its best.

Lots of people have money to go abroad with whoever they want? It happens all day every day.

Wordsworth25 · 21/05/2026 12:42

Flicitytricity · 19/05/2026 18:11

If you could point me to it, I'd really appreciate it.
I don't think it will be her, but may be worth a read

I think we could all do with seeing the thread

boundtobe · 21/05/2026 12:43

I think she's shared too much with you and every time she sees you is embarrassed.

Goditsmemargaret · 21/05/2026 12:45

This is just so weird.

It doesn't sound like she's ok.

Any chance she arrived, forgot she was supposed to be meeting you then lost a few hours and was so frazzled she went on the attack.

I remember going with my mum to meet my auntie in the cafe we always met. We waited a while then phoned her. She was in another cafe we had never been and absolutely furious that we had misled her.

We had no idea why she was being so horrible to us, shouting and flouncing off.

A month later her brain tumour was diagnosed.

RanchRat · 21/05/2026 12:53

Don't let this histrionic cunt drive you out of the group, if she so can't stand you she should stay away.

Genevieva · 21/05/2026 13:00

She’s removed herself from the group chat, which is much the same as removing herself from the group. Keep going. Keep organising things through the group chat. She’s being unreasonable and, if she doesn’t want to leave, attention seeking to boot.

Genevieva · 21/05/2026 13:01

The others should keep in mind that they could be next.

Howtorespond · 21/05/2026 13:06

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 21/05/2026 08:22

I don’t for one second believe her story about bumping into friends and ditching you. Who the fuck does that? And if so, why was her phone off?

I wonder if she planned to stand you up all along, but she wanted you to kick off so she could tell the group how horrible you’d been to her. I don’t know, even that seems really calculated and far-fetched. But, I really don’t believe her story. Something feels off about it.

This! Yes, I reckon that could be the case. She wanted to manufacture a huge row so she could ‘show’ the group how horrid you are and you’d be ousted or feel you had to leave. Who knows why she’d do something so bonkers but maybe embarrassment over what she’s shared with you in the past and she wanted to blow it all up to avoid those difficult feelings. It didn’t go as she planned and she’s now furious and of course has no explanation. I’ve seen similar and it’s hugely manipulative and peculiar.

74usernames · 21/05/2026 13:18

Flicitytricity · 19/05/2026 18:51

That's great advice, and definitely is something I will do 😘

Edited

Just no. Why should you have to alternate, that is really childish and just silly.

All you can do is ask her to explain, and if she won’t then there is nothing you can do about it and it’s not your problem.

Leave it to her, and stay in the group. She needs to grow up, you be the adult here.

UncharteredWaters · 21/05/2026 13:21

Flicitytricity · 19/05/2026 17:40

Everyone finds it odd!
Problem is, she has never been like this before, and I don't think anyone knows what to do.
They're all saying to take no notice, she will have to just sort herself out, but I hate that its having such an impact on everyone else, that's just not fair.
If I could pin down what it is she thinks I've done), it would be so much easier, but I cant get anywhere with her. I know 2 of the group have also tried, but all she says is that this goes back years and that she doesn't have a problem with anyone else in the group, just me😏

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You won’t pin her down because you haven’t done anything.

She’s an arse - her behaviour standing you up showed that.

continue your walking for the social group, rise above her, refuse to be drawn, answer with

‘I don’t know what the issue is, I wonder if it started when she stood me up, I don’t know but I’m happy to discuss with her is she wants to. I’m not allowing myself to be distressed by it any longer or have sleepless nights again. Are you enjoying the walk/book/latest tv?’

it shows she’s an arse, you’ve tried, she’s still being dramatic and actually it’s nasty and hurtful.

SweetnsourNZ · 21/05/2026 13:21

UncleTed · 19/05/2026 17:43

@Flicitytricity You’ve done nothing wrong there. You can’t be expected to hang around all day, while she swans off with someone she’s bumped into, when she’s already arranged to meet with you. I think she realises what awful behaviour that was and has put the boot in first with your hiking group because she was worried you’d tell others about her standing you up. Just an idea. Unless she’s willing to communicate with you like an adult, this person doesn’t deserve another moment of your time.

My first thought. She's feeling guilty so she's trying g to deflect.
She sounds like a narcissist and I would avoid. If you were new to the group I would say run, but as the others know you well enough maybe just see what happens.

Brideofclover · 21/05/2026 13:31

Flicitytricity · 19/05/2026 17:34

Yes.
She's been hiding it well, i thought she was a close friend😏
We arranged a meet up to walk, just the two of us a month or so ago.
It was an hours drive to the meeting point, she was running a bit late, no problem with that, I said to ring me when she arrived and I would just pass the time window shopping.
Then heard nothing. I got worried she'd been in an accident, or had broken down. I tried to ring, but went immediately to answer phone, I whatsapped to check she was okay.
4 hours later, she said she was so sorry, she had arrived, but bumped into old friends so had gone to lunch with them and did I want to meet up at teatime for a drink.
I WAS pissed off, but all I responded with was, ' think I'll head off home, see you next week and enjoy your afternoon xx'
I included her in a daft message the following day, chased her and another woman to to confirm some timings, then realused she was no longer on the whatsaop group, so I sent her a message to check she was okay.
Im still bemused as to what I've done wrong.

There it is - she behaved badly and is now projecting onto you in case you mention her utter rudeness that day to anyone!!!
personally, in front of everyone just say something along the lines of I’m so sorry you don’t seem to like me anymore but I’m sure we can be adult enough to be polite when we’re all together in a group - then do not feed into her drama anymore. Don’t ask her why what where or when. Hold your head up and stand tall and proud. It’ll be the last thing she wants or expects and if she continues she’ll make herself look even more stupid x

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 21/05/2026 13:33

She's not in the Whats App group - is that right? In which case be proactive and start instigating plans to the rest of the group, if she has still flounced away she won't get the info?

she's a bully, manipulative and hugely draining I expect. I wouldn't be letting her force me out!

5MinuteArgument · 21/05/2026 13:41

Trouble is she knows she has an entry point to bully the OP. OP has said 'I'd feel guilty if she left'. Whereas the correct response should be 'Thank god that bxtch has gone.'

Don't let these people get away with it OP. These people are everywhere, scamming, manipulating, trying to bring down decent ordinary people.

diddl · 21/05/2026 14:06

Do the others in the group know about her arranging to meet you & not bothering?

If not i she trying to get you to leave before you tell them?